This Is How You Kill Powder Mildew Forever!!!!!

[SKUNK420]

the only reason i did not use the dip/dunk method was i had no idea what i was going to do with 20 gallons of mixed eagle when i was done with it (big plants). i sprayed the room with 1 gallon and it worked just fine. you just have to hit everything ...... it aint organic but it is something to think about

they have a way to dispose of it on page 7 of the direction in pdf form online. The directions for Chrysanthemum cuttings say to dispose of left over product by spraying on to a registered crop.
http://www.cdms.net/ldat/ld6DG005.pdf

I'm going to spray the plants and bushes growing around my house with it.

I have only 8 gallons to get rid of. I used a tall rubber maid trash can. It was tall and wide enough to dunk 2 foot tall plants that I vegged in 3"x3"x4" tall rockwool cubes. Also didn't have to worry about the medium falling out of a pot.

 

[MtnLivin]

I am going to do a dip as well.. It seems like less is in the air with a dip and should be safer than spraying? I only have to mix up a 5 gallon bucket of the stuff so getting rid of it wont be much of a problem.

 

[qupee]

I hope you folks dipping in Eagle 20 are suited up good in personal protective gear, and clean up any drips.

Sounds too dangerous for my tastes, I'd rather don a respirator and give a light spray.

 

[MtnLivin]

I hope you folks dipping in Eagle 20 are suited up good in personal protective gear, and clean up any drips.

Sounds too dangerous for my tastes, I'd rather don a respirator and give a light spray.

I don't know how you spray man, but I make a much larger mess spraying rather than dipping.. If your not wearing full coverage spraying or dipping, your not very bright ...

 

[qupee]

If your not wearing full coverage spraying or dipping, your not very bright ...

Agreed.

I just think of how up to my elbows I've been dunking in Zone + Saturator for PM, and couldn't imaging doing that with a barrel full of Eagle. Not to mention all the hazardous leftovers. I wouldn't want to be disposing of many gallons of the stuff in my yard.

 

[SKUNK420]

I hope you folks dipping in Eagle 20 are suited up good in personal protective gear, and clean up any drips.

Sounds too dangerous for my tastes, I'd rather don a respirator and give a light spray.

On page 49 I talk about my protective gear. My set-up is in a garage with smooth concrete floors so clean up is a breeze and I don't make a big mess to start with. Here's how I do it. My dunk trash can is a hair over 2 feet tall & oval shaped. I drop in an air stone to let the bubbles do the work for me. I have two pieces of wood that I place on top of the can to rest the rockwool cube upside down while the foliage is submerged under the solution getting it's bubble bath. Then I walk away to get out of the immediate area for about one and a half minutes approximately. Then remove plant to drip dry ( no fan in order let solution have more time to do it's magic) on concrete floor before I then transplanted in sog E&F table. 45 two footers in all. I also rigged up some ducting from my exhaust fan to suck out the fumes to minimize the amount eagle 20 odor in the air. It didn't completely stop me from smelling it but was better then nothing.

Yeah I have no idea how you guys deal with it when you spray it in your bedroom grow room etc.. Even with fans turned off your protective clothing is going to have fine mist on it. All the walls and grow pots, tables or whatever you grow in is going to have residue / over-spray on it.

So do you then wear gloves at all times after spray treatment when do work in the grow room?

How long do you think it is safe to not wear gloves and lets says a rain suit when handling grow gear that has eagle 20 over-spray on it?

Also remember that respirator filters have a limited life after being used even if was only for short time.

Personally I feel I have a bigger chance of getting cancer from all the products I use as a car mechanic then using eagle 20 one per cycle.

 

[greenmatter]

i did not spray the entire room with the plants in place because i had some of the same questions. i put a 2x4 drip tray in the corner and rotated plants through 2 at a time to spray them. in the end i had a little more than 1 quart of eagle that i collected through the drain in the tray. i put that in a gallon juice container and put it in the sun in my back yard.... as the water cooked off i would add more and throw things like vinegar or K bicarbonate in every now and then. took a while but in the end there was algae growing in the container and i had mosquito larvae living in it. UV tears chemicals up. eagle is not the most eco friendly stuff out there but it aint uranium 235 either.

 

[dirk d]

im so sick and tired of pm i just ordered the eagle 20. made it to page 10 and said f*** it. It's either this or i nuke my entire house and watch it burn to the ground. wish me luck! this pm is destroying my harvests and making me question growing. beat the fing borg and i cant get rid of this pm. dehumidifier, green cure, serenade all this organic crap. im so sick and tired of this shit!

 

[budbasket]

Yep yep, pretty awesome stuff. I get Immunox locally, same stuff(Myclobutanil) just less concentrated. Powerful stuff, doesn't take much, kinda scary actually how well it works. I look at it as a necessary evil. Be nice to not use it but its too easy/cheap/effective. It has been 90% humidity the past like 4 months where I live, PM is everywhere.

 

[Herborizer]

im so sick and tired of pm i just ordered the eagle 20. made it to page 10 and said f*** it. It's either this or i nuke my entire house and watch it burn to the ground. wish me luck! this pm is destroying my harvests and making me question growing. beat the fing borg and i cant get rid of this pm. dehumidifier, green cure, serenade all this organic crap. im so sick and tired of this shit!

Say goodbye to pm. The long war is almost over.

 

[RespectGreen]

eagle20 is the beez neez i also vouch fwiw

 

[greenduck]

can you use this stuff up to 4 weeks before harvest? all chemicals/pesticides are rated differently. I usually only use it before i flip but i once forgot and used it two weeks into my 8 week harvest. my friend that has way more growin experience than i do state i can use it no later than week 4 but week two is better.

also, i spray with only gloves on and a dual respirator and glasses though i should probably use those chemical grade full wrapping goggles. there is talk that this stuff is super nasty even after the 24hrs of spraying. any suggestions/thoughts/concerns?

 

[Sickaluph]

What if your grow room is in your house where you live??

If you have to get all dressed up in a damn hazmat suit with respirators and shit then it can't be a good thing.... what if you have pets or children that live in that same house?

People are saying it's still poisonous after the 24 hours? Does it linger in the air? Does it linger whereever you happened to originally spray it?

And can anyone elaborate on the Immunox that is available at Home Depot for like $15? If it has the same ingredient but is way cheaper then wouldn't it obviously be the better choice instead of Eagle-20??

How many ML per gallon are people using of the Immunox?

 

[Tactical Farmer]

Here is another good thread with a semi related topic : http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=4633467#post4633467

 

[Dislexus]

Are we poisoning ourselves here?

 

[Sickaluph]

What if your grow room is in your house where you live??

If you have to get all dressed up in a damn hazmat suit with respirators and shit then it can't be a good thing.... what if you have pets or children that live in that same house?

People are saying it's still poisonous after the 24 hours? Does it linger in the air? Does it linger whereever you happened to originally spray it?

And can anyone elaborate on the Immunox that is available at Home Depot for like $15? If it has the same ingredient but is way cheaper then wouldn't it obviously be the better choice instead of Eagle-20??

How many ML per gallon are people using of the Immunox?

Can anyone comment on this??

 

[t33to]

Can anyone comment on this??

I use Greencure to systemically kill PM. Providing you use it again a week or so later and that you don't have any other plants or fungus in the room still it will be gone forever. I just mix it according to the instructions on the container and I do the "dip" technique where I fully invert the plant in a bucket of the solution.

Of course this only works if you have plants small enough that you can invert and it only works if you do "every" plant in the room, have a clean room after you do the dip and repeat the treatment no later than two weeks after.

Anytime I encounter PM and it's not possible to do the dip anymore I will use Serenade which is a beautiful product that I've discovered I can use up to 1 week before flowering with out any residual taste in the product however this tends to make all the pistils turn dark in colour so I avoid it if possible but I'd rather have burnt looking pistils then a crop filled with PM gunk that could possibly harm my patients.

I've also used Serenade the day before Harvest (tested this with just one plant) and found that as long as I gave the flower a quick rinse under some fresh tap water the Serenade smell was gone and the product still smoked fine however the natural taste of the flowers was incredibly diminished but no harmful side effects. It's definitely something you could do in an absolute last case resort safely in my opinion.

As for having a garden inside your house; obviously if you need a hazmat suit the chemicals are fucking dangerous and you've really got to start considering what is more important, human health or plant health. It should be a pretty simple decision for the morally inclined.

I hope that helps.

 

[krunchbubble]

Can anyone comment on this??

you can use it in your house, i have been for years with pets. use a suit and a mask, your good...

I use Greencure to systemically kill PM. Providing you use it again a week or so later and that you don't have any other plants or fungus in the room still it will be gone forever. I just mix it according to the instructions on the container and I do the "dip" technique where I fully invert the plant in a bucket of the solution.

Of course this only works if you have plants small enough that you can invert and it only works if you do "every" plant in the room, have a clean room after you do the dip and repeat the treatment no later than two weeks after.

Anytime I encounter PM and it's not possible to do the dip anymore I will use Serenade which is a beautiful product that I've discovered I can use up to 1 week before flowering with out any residual taste in the product however this tends to make all the pistils turn dark in colour so I avoid it if possible but I'd rather have burnt looking pistils then a crop filled with PM gunk that could possibly harm my patients.

I've also used Serenade the day before Harvest (tested this with just one plant) and found that as long as I gave the flower a quick rinse under some fresh tap water the Serenade smell was gone and the product still smoked fine however the natural taste of the flowers was incredibly diminished but no harmful side effects. It's definitely something you could do in an absolute last case resort safely in my opinion.

As for having a garden inside your house; obviously if you need a hazmat suit the chemicals are fucking dangerous and you've really got to start considering what is more important, human health or plant health. It should be a pretty simple decision for the morally inclined.

I hope that helps.

greencure is pure hogwash, snake oil, wannabe useful product that will change all your hairs and stunt your plants....

this thread is about THE CURE, Eagle 20, thank you.....

 

[grapeman]

can you use this stuff up to 4 weeks before harvest? all chemicals/pesticides are rated differently. I usually only use it before i flip but i once forgot and used it two weeks into my 8 week harvest. my friend that has way more growin experience than i do state i can use it no later than week 4 but week two is better.

also, i spray with only gloves on and a dual respirator and glasses though i should probably use those chemical grade full wrapping goggles. there is talk that this stuff is super nasty even after the 24hrs of spraying. any suggestions/thoughts/concerns?

If some of you "Chicken Little" Doom Sayers would just google Eagle 20 and read the LABEL, you would find several things.

First, on most food crops you can use the product anywhere from 14 days to harvest to 1 day before harvest. Since you dry and cure this product for 4 to 12 weeks after harvest, you can easily spray Eagle 4 weeks before harvest and have residues in the low ppm, ppb level or even not detectable. Entirely safe.

Also on the label is the precaution to use a mask and not to have contact with the skin. As a farmer, I can tell you that this is the same recommendation the government makes manufacturers put on their labels for sulfur. Organic sulfur. So just using common sense is really all you need to do. It is a very safe and effective product.

Some of these guys expose themselves to more harmful compounds when they mix manures in their soil by hand.

Grow up!

 

[Sickaluph]

And can anyone elaborate on the Immunox that is available at Home Depot for like $15? If it has the same ingredient but is way cheaper then wouldn't it obviously be the better choice instead of Eagle-20??

How many ML per gallon are people using of the Immunox?