The Search for Trip Weed

[willydread]

Makes sense. Those packs were hanging around in the fridges of seed retailers for decades later though. I picked up my first pack in 2008. For several reasons, the keeper slipped through my fingers and I cried about it for years.
Finally found some old packs recently which I’m running now. Two 5 packs. The last pic is from the web of the feminised lines pack.

GHS remains a great version of Neville Haze...

 

[StickyBandit]

GHS remains a great version of Neville Haze...

My last seeds from them produced what seemed like the odd keeper but hermied in the end so got pulled. May have been a light issue but still my other strains remained solid

 

[@hempy]

Makes sense. Those packs were hanging around in the fridges of seed retailers for decades later though. I picked up my first pack in 2008. For several reasons, the keeper slipped through my fingers and I cried about it for years.
Finally found some old packs recently which I’m running now. Two 5 packs. The last pic is from the web of the feminised lines pack.

GHS ran out of all seed after shanti sold his 50% and left and Nevil sold his side of Green House coffee shop, then after Franco joined GHS a few years later they bought seed from a Mr Nice retailer in Amsterdam called Mr Haze.

So those seed and all of GHS Haze lines are seed made from seed Mr Nice sells, this was made public and posted by Mr Haze him self.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Finally found some old packs recently which I’m running now. Two 5 packs. The last pic is from the web of the feminised lines pack.

I got ya' Spaventa. There are some excellent cerebral, trippy, spiritual types that don't have that paranoid, edgy, overwhelming bent to them. I love my northern line with the recent Bangi Haze and VISC Burmese in it. Not to mention Big Sur Holy Weed or SAGE. I could smoke that stuff everyday. I'm not a Thai Stick twice a day smoker. Too intense.

Hey, please post your grow and search through those Neville's Haze plants here in this thread if you are so inclined. That's what this thread is for. It's not just my search, it's THE Search.

In fact, I just logged in to search for pictures of people's Neville's Haze 21 to see what they might look like.

Here's my Thai dom everyday religious experience.

Damn Randy! That is a hell of a plant. Nothin' but what goes in the pipe. Props to you and your growing skills! All the best my friend.

I have beans of GT 3rd generation Thai dom, but too scared to try yet

Drop those beans and post the progress here!

I found a good one from Golden Tiger. I lost the cut due to it's difficulty to reveg. It had a strong tendency for auto-flower in a root bound pot. Most of the GT gave me a kind of brooding trippy high. It's strong, but I'm not a fan of the Malawi selection in it. Maybe it's due to my tendency for depression. That's why I like the energetic types of highs. They are definately worth looking through for the Thai dominant expressions, IMHO.

 

[willydread]

I don't want to pollute this beautiful thread with the usual controversies,
However, if I have to say my piece, I had a terrible germination rate, but the only plant I got was a blessing, especially when compared to the "originals"

My last seeds from them produced what seemed like the odd keeper but hermied in the end so got pulled. May have been a light issue but still my other strains remained solid

A classic with ghs things, low germination, strange plants, mutants...no good, but sometimes you could find the gold

 

[ThaiBliss]

A classic with ghs things, low germination, strange plants, mutants...no good, but sometimes you could find the gold

No need to hold back amigo. You have a right to say your piece. Except it will probably trigger a few rants from me.

We spend A LOT of money for very few seeds. It seems to me that very few seed sellers are decent breeders. But some people hold very good cuttings, which can be very valuable even at only 50% of those genes if we are willing to do the work for ourselves. I've lost a lot of very good cuts, so you have to give respect for those that can keep a great mother or father alive for decades and spread the partial genes to us. But we give way too much credit for actual breeding.

In my opinion, we give scandalously too little credit to cultures that create stellar varieties. We use the term landrace, which to me implies a dismissal of the work they have done. IMO, we should be using the term heirloom genetics for things like Thai Stick. It takes a local culture, a community, or even a region to make something so good. I believe it took decades, if not centuries, to achive such excellence. The same goes for Mexican, or Colombian. I've smoked numerous varieties from the each of these regions, but they tend to have characteristics in common within those regions. While the geography has influence, I believe culture has far greater influence. Jamaican ganja from the early 70s was a very similar type of grass to S.E. Asian, but half a world apart. Both Thai genetics/culture and Jamaican genetics/culture may have come from India. All these cultures use the term "ganja", or a very similar variation. I believe that Sam wrote a post saying that Kerala India has strains very similar to Thai. I know that Jamaica had indentured servents from India.

It's our duty to preserve, stabilize, improve, and share the types of ganja that we appreciate. I think it was Thomas Jefferson that said something like caretaking and passing on farm varieties to future generations is the most valuable thing a person can do for humanity. I'm all in on clear, clean, strong, intensely cerebral types of ganja. No more "modern breeding" and the incessant genius idea of crossing dissimilar types of plants are going to get us somewhere better. Double down, not dumb down, on trip weed!

Oh shit Willydread. If that was what you were trying to avoid, my appologies.

 

[ThaiBliss]

O.K., maybe a pic of this graceful lady will help soothe our souls. She's finally healthy and shooting for the stars!