The Search for Trip Weed

[Donald Mallard]

plants are looking great tb,
thank goodness some of the young folk learn a few things from the old farts hehehe,
im surprised when they favour the stuff we like over the heavy couchlock gear , makes me happy knowing the stuff we prefer likely wont die out , even the next generation has appreciation for it ,, well the more enlightened ones anyhow ....

 

[Siever]

Congratulations on this! It seems like another piece is falling in place. (Or another brick was knocked out of the wall.) Made me think about the long term picture, where we're going with all this ... do you know any young people doing the kind of thing you're doing? I don't mean teenagers, 30 qualifies as "young" for me, but I have the consistent impression that we who are interested in this stuff all remember the '70s too well to qualify as young.

I'm 35 if that still counts. I love the psychedelic energy some pure sativa's gives. Althought sometimes, if I haven't smoked for a very long time, some hybrids can make me trip as well, but not as hard/deep.

 

[Donn]

It is all too rare for young people to know about this stuff. Even dispensaries that are run by older people who should know better, are in it for the money so much that they will not even consider selling it because it does not have the looks that sell. I believe that some will buy it and sell it dirt cheap, which may be the only way to break through. Frankly, smokers of this weed need guidance. You can smoke too much, and have a bad experience with strong energetic trippy weed. Titration is key, in my opinion.

The "recreational" shops around here carry at least a spectrum of stuff - maybe nothing in your league, but seems like almost everyone carries something with "Durban Poison" on the package for example, and generally I get the impression we're limited mostly by what's available. Someone there told me she could pretty much predict which way people will go, partly by age (young = "indica", old = "sativa"), but also by apparel etc. "Active wear" as she put it predicts sativa, I guess around here that would mostly mean runners.

Anyway, what I'm thinking is that now that it's legal, the customer includes a broader variety of individuals, more healthy (non-medical) and with different mental outlooks, and it's good that the more interesting effect profiles are getting into in the picture because I expect there's more of a constituency for them.

 

[ValleyKush]

It's awsome to see such great conversation still happening on these forums. Love the exchange of opinions without childish bickering.

Tb I think you and I are on the same boat. Imo it's very important for people like us to do our part in keeping a spiritual aspect to this quickly evolving market. Canabis has great potential for spiritual healing, just as for physical. It seems most people dont realize it can have effects like that. Even talking to old timers I have yet to encounter anybody who has experience with such strains recently (other then here on icmag). Refreshing to see others moveing in the same direction.

In my experience the sun brings out terps and canabanoids that no hps or mh can. Also the spritual aspect of being in the ground, open air, wind, rain, hearing the birds/ bugs and under moon and stars is something I can never hope to duplicate inside. Of coarse the concistancy you can provide inside rarely happens outside.

My 2 phenos of bangi have a much deeper rounded smell of lemony floral anise outside compared to the sweet lemon smell they had inside. A lemon skunk clone I ran in and out seemed to be the same way- much more complex smell outside. But thats my limited experience.

Anyways, beautiful pics! I'll have to try that flash with the sun behind trick.

 

[idiit]

Burmese was beautifully euphoric in low doses, 1 to 3 tokes, but got rather trippy at 5 or 6 tokes. Not really potent, but it definitely had top end, no ceiling.

I had the bsc? Burmese and if taken as early as possible had wonderful high effects. taken into amber and it was the most depressing smoke I've ever.....

kaiki of cbg iirc stated that at least one of his oaxacans needed to be taken fairly early for best effects. the highland oaxacan red I called jezebel (hor) needed to be taken early. I took about 1/4 qp early and everyone raved about the exotic terpenes and special uplifting high effects. I left the rest to take more mature and high effects, smell taste were significantly worse.

be interesting to hear from others on "amber" for the high end sativas. I take mine now as soon as the bud feels well formed/done by touch for the very intense special uplifting high effects.

 

[Big-Narstie]

What the F... The Burmese trait that I recognize is the funky body odor sex spunk smell mixed in with overripe fruit. I really know how to sell it don't I?

ThaiBliss

Scent of a blossom tree I think you meant you dirty sod lol

 

[JamieShoes]

oooh funky spunk bud... think I'll pass

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

oooh funky spunk bud... think I'll pass

Sounds hard to swallow

 

[yoss33]

What the F... Heck!! I accidentally took a good picture.
View Image

Beautiful indeed

 

[ThaiBliss]

Scent of a blossom tree I think you meant you dirty sod lol

I wish I knew what that was. There is a tree around here named chinquapin with a similar funk during flowering.

LOL. After reading ChaosCatalunya's post, I really regret that description. I didn't think most would know what chinquapin is.

It actually tasted nothing like it smelled after a cure. It was strange, almost like (be careful here...) Jack Herer weed, lung expanding but not hashy and without a hint of harshness, but people loved it. The first time someone commented, I wasn't sure if they were being facetious, but I got so many good comments, I started believing them. LOL.

ThaiBliss

 

[ThaiBliss]

I look at this bud, and I think Punto Rojo, an early and solid bud version.

T.B.

 

[John LOQUE]

Hi Thai Bliss !

I did not read all the pages, i admit. But i read the first and i thought i could share something related to the subject.

Ive been smoking weed for 30 years now, growing for 10 years, and i find the weed very weak nowadays.
At first, i thought i was doing something wrong, but it seems that it's not that, i've tried several strains and breeders, costly and cheap seeds, i've changed a lot of things in my set up, brand of nutes, lightings, and almost all the strains have the same effect, that is weak. I can have a high tolerance to THC, but friends who don"t smoke as much as me find my weed weak.
10 years ago, i was knocked down by 3 puffs of AK47, now i can smoke 3 joints and feel almost nothing.
I bought weed by internet, and a highly rated weed, that people liked a lot, had almost no effect on me. I bought hashish also, very creamy, soft, nice smoke, but still no effect.

Now i'm trying satori, 28 % THC, Jack the ripper, 28% THC under COB's LED's and i will see, but i really don't anderstand the problem.
Last batch was dinafem Critical mass, moby dick and OG kush, it's full of trichs, it sticks, but almost no effect. Every body says that potency is genetic, so i should be stoned.

I 've got seeds from ACE, zamal/hash plant and malawi that i have to try before i give up, but i really don't anderstand what's happen, i'm happy to find a thread like this one.

 

[satva]

Smoke Report

Smoke Report

The best I ever smoked was fresh 1972 Burmese charas.

A Mango Haze phenotype I call C is very similar to Punto Rojo high.

Punto Rojo x (Mango Haze C / Highland Guerrero / Blueberry) is next after Punto Rojo f2.

Mango Haze C


Mango C ~ 17 weeks flowering .

Smell in flowering - Tropical Fruit / Rose.

Smell in the jar - Lemon / Floral.

Thin leaves, asymmetrical branching, haze growth structure with very thin leaves and wispy haze flowers. Punto Rojo has considerably more vigor. Mango Haze is a stronger high with a denser flower structure.

The effect is clear, calm, focused, uplifting spacious, with a sense of well being. Almost no stone in the head or body.

High creates a sense of well being and contentment.

 

[John LOQUE]

The best I ever smoked was fresh 1972 Burmese charas.

A Mango Haze phenotype I call C is very similar to Punto Rojo high.

Punto Rojo x (Mango Haze C / Highland Guerrero / Blueberry) is next after Punto Rojo f2.

Mango Haze C
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Mango C ~ 17 weeks flowering .

Smell in flowering - Tropical Fruit / Rose.

Smell in the jar - Lemon / Floral.

Thin leaves, asymmetrical branching, haze growth structure with very thin leaves and wispy haze flowers. Punto Rojo has considerably more vigor. Mango Haze is a stronger high with a denser flower structure.

The effect is clear, calm, focused, uplifting spacious, with a sense of well being. Almost no stone in the head or body.

High creates a sense of well being and contentment.

Does it give you red eyes ?

 

[MostlyMe]

Hi Thai Bliss !

I did not read all the pages, i admit. But i read the first and i thought i could share something related to the subject.

Ive been smoking weed for 30 years now, growing for 10 years, and i find the weed very weak nowadays.
At first, i thought i was doing something wrong, but it seems that it's not that, i've tried several strains and breeders, costly and cheap seeds, i've changed a lot of things in my set up, brand of nutes, lightings, and almost all the strains have the same effect, that is weak. I can have a high tolerance to THC, but friends who don"t smoke as much as me find my weed weak.
10 years ago, i was knocked down by 3 puffs of AK47, now i can smoke 3 joints and feel almost nothing.
I bought weed by internet, and a highly rated weed, that people liked a lot, had almost no effect on me. I bought hashish also, very creamy, soft, nice smoke, but still no effect.

Now i'm trying satori, 28 % THC, Jack the ripper, 28% THC under COB's LED's and i will see, but i really don't anderstand the problem.
Last batch was dinafem Critical mass, moby dick and OG kush, it's full of trichs, it sticks, but almost no effect. Every body says that potency is genetic, so i should be stoned.

I 've got seeds from ACE, zamal/hash plant and malawi that i have to try before i give up, but i really don't anderstand what's happen, i'm happy to find a thread like this one.

I have been having the same problem. I do still get high, but it's rather undramatic and flat. At the beginning of the year I posted some trippy experiences from my Thai and Double Jam, but those seem unobtainable now without the aid of alcohol (and I am not big drinker). A tolerance break helps (I tried 3 weeks and 6 weeks), but only for a brief period of time. Like 2 or 3 smoking sessions I should add my stash probably deteriorated in the summer heat. I store in the dark and in jars, but still that 3 months at 25 degrees C (the coolest room in my apartment) can't be good.

TB, your plants look great man. My Bangi Hazes have cured to a wonderful peachy-grapefruity aroma, but lost that ultraclear high. Double Jam is zingy-minty, also very nice, but a shadow of it's former self. In my last harvest in June, the winner was a hybrid called MadShack. Like the good trippy landraces, it is able to induce a cold feeling, even panic before mellowing out.

 

[Donald Mallard]

The best I ever smoked was fresh 1972 Burmese charas.

A Mango Haze phenotype I call C is very similar to Punto Rojo high.

Punto Rojo x (Mango Haze C / Highland Guerrero / Blueberry) is next after Punto Rojo f2.

Mango Haze C
[URL=https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=53688&pictureid=1343763&thumb=1]View Image[/url]

Mango C ~ 17 weeks flowering .

Smell in flowering - Tropical Fruit / Rose.

Smell in the jar - Lemon / Floral.

Thin leaves, asymmetrical branching, haze growth structure with very thin leaves and wispy haze flowers. Punto Rojo has considerably more vigor. Mango Haze is a stronger high with a denser flower structure.

The effect is clear, calm, focused, uplifting spacious, with a sense of well being. Almost no stone in the head or body.

High creates a sense of well being and contentment.

I found the same with mango haze ,, euphoric , great high and really good tolerance to rain and mould , i grew a whole patch of it one season with this in mind ,, worked a treat , even after a cyclone there was only a little mould where the plants lay on each other .. and the punters were happy and smiling ..

 

[Tangwena]

Hi Thai Bliss !

I did not read all the pages, i admit. But i read the first and i thought i could share something related to the subject.

Ive been smoking weed for 30 years now, growing for 10 years, and i find the weed very weak nowadays.
At first, i thought i was doing something wrong, but it seems that it's not that, i've tried several strains and breeders, costly and cheap seeds, i've changed a lot of things in my set up, brand of nutes, lightings, and almost all the strains have the same effect, that is weak. I can have a high tolerance to THC, but friends who don"t smoke as much as me find my weed weak.
10 years ago, i was knocked down by 3 puffs of AK47, now i can
smoke 3 joints and feel almost nothing.
I bought weed by internet, and a highly rated weed, that people liked a lot, had almost no effect on me. I bought hashish also, very creamy, soft, nice smoke, but still no effect.

Now i'm trying satori, 28 % THC, Jack the ripper, 28% THC under COB's LED's and i will see, but i really don't anderstand the problem.
Last batch was dinafem Critical mass, moby dick and OG kush, it's full of trichs, it sticks, but almost no effect. Every body says that potency is genetic, so i should be stoned.

I 've got seeds from ACE, zamal/hash plant and malawi that i have to try before i give up, but i really don't anderstand what's happen, i'm happy to find a thread like this one.

Hi John
I have the same problem Ace Golden Tiger extracted into coconut butter and ingested does the trick every time. I also chew cured bud and get up there for hours. I too have been smoking for longer than 30 years and gave up ever getting High, stoned sometimes , but not very high.
Golden tiger ingested is for me the only dope that does the trick. I feel for your problem, I have been there for years, over rated boring pretty, tasting good but what a let down in the head.
Try a bit of Gt you never know your luck.
Tangwena

 

[John LOQUE]

Hi John
I have the same problem Ace Golden Tiger extracted into coconut butter and ingested does the trick every time. I also chew cured bud and get up there for hours. I too have been smoking for longer than 30 years and gave up ever getting High, stoned sometimes , but not very high.
Golden tiger ingested is for me the only dope that does the trick. I feel for your problem, I have been there for years, over rated boring pretty, tasting good but what a let down in the head.
Try a bit of Gt you never know your luck.
Tangwena

Hey Tangwena, i remember your posts saying you chew decarb buds. And you should have some zamaldelica curing somewhere, no ? Did you try ACE malawi ? I 've never tried golden tiger, but the description is very attractive. How long did you let them flower to have the potent effect ? Malawi has a shorter time of flo, that's why i choosed it vs GT. Thanks for the advice.

 

[Tangwena]

Hi John I no longer de carb as it was hit and miss, but long cured is always good, I haven't tried the Malawi grown properly but from the smoke reports they all mention narcotic which is not my scene, I like manic trippy the more out of control the better.
I have two separate Gt's going at the moment 2013 and 2015 productions, the last GT I grew was unimpressive after harvest so I gave most of it away, but after a long cure, well lets just say I will not give any away this time.
I am just starting to get a handle on curing these sativas, also 14 weeks actual flowering is needed for me but thats not true of clones.
I cloned a Zamaldelica and it finished in 10 weeks, I am sampling it slowly and its very strong ingested, like acid.
But the Gt wins for me all round spaced out and confident with it no nerves.
Its not as strong as the best from Malawi, grown in Malawi, but its good enough that I need look no further. I only grow the other strains from Ace out of curiosity.
I know just how much to take to get to a given level, if you want to be lost in wonderland like a baby seeing everything for the first time GT ingested will get you there and further.
I haven't reached the peak yet, but I have got so high I didn't want it to get any stronger and that has never happend since I left Malawi many years ago.
So for me its the tool I need to get the way I like.
When I first came to Australia I couldn't believe how weak the local grass was, now we have hydro grown but its just strong not good, just stoned arse dumb effects, I like to feel intelligent and feel super charged and able to function at least in my mind.
I am rambling but thats the GT talking, if I dont have it for breakfast my day sucks big time ha ha.
Regards Tangwena

 

[THCMAN]

Greetings,

When I started smoking weed, approximately 45 years ago, it seemed like a time or two ever year my friends and I would come across something that was extraordinarily powerful and trippy. Back then, I smoked every chance I got. Some weed was very good, some O.K., and a lot was pretty bad. I think I smoked and tried a lot of varieties from different sources mostly to find those trippy strains and have those occasional mystical experiences that come from discovering those varietal gems. The best examples of what I am talking about are:

Jamaican Ganja
Thai Sticks
Sumatran
Neville's Haze (acid pheno) - A good example of a more recent discovery.

Some other examples that were also pretty good were:

Higher quality Colombian
The occasional Californian homegrown in the late 70s
Higher quality Mexican

I have been growing for about 35 of those 45 years that I have been smoking. The sad truth is, I have only grown 5 - 7 or so plants successfully that I considered world class. I am really picky, and perhaps not the best grower. I may have grown 10 - 15 that were really good. Lately, I have grown some good stuff, but it has been almost 10 years since I have had anything that I consider world class. I believe the popularity of Indica and Sativa Indica crosses have made the extremely potent and trippy strains harder and harder to find. This thread is dedicated to my search for some world class trippy weed.

Lately I have been trying some strains from ACE Seeds, since there are a lot of Southeast Asian offerings and many strains are crossed to a Thai plant. So far, I really like the high of Bangi Haze. If it was more potent, I could call it world class, but it is not quite there yet. I'm keeping it to bring down flowering time of anything world class that I find. Bangi Haze is that good. Currently, I've just harvested Zamaldelica. I have not sampled it yet. I started a thread called "Zamaldelica - The Search for Trip Weed", and I'm relieved to see that there seems to be an interest in this type of weed. I'm relieved because I assumed that most of the tokers that like that old fashioned weed had disappeared. So many argue that weed has gotten stronger, which is exactly contrary to what I have experienced. I think that trippy energetic weed is way stronger than the couch-lock weed I often now experience. It is almost as if the part that makes you feel tired is being counted towards potency by the newer generations of Cannabis aficionados. I consider couch-lock to be a dirty side effect, best bred out of the strain, much like the paranoia effects should be bred out from the opposite side of the spectrum of highs.

I have recently acquired some good strain prospects that are not ACE offerings, and I'm hoping that there is as much interest in trip weed outside of the specific seed company threads. I don't intend for this thread to be Sativa strains only, as long as the strains are trippy, energetic, and hopefully clean and clear. I'm willing to tolerate paranoia, since it has often goes hand-in-hand with extreme potency. I usually build up a tolerance to paranoia without building up a tolerance for the potency of the high. The Bangi Haze is as Indica looking as a strain can be, but the effect is as up and energetic as a strain can be. It is really happy weed like good Mexican. In a word, Irie! I have also had an Indica that was very trippy in a flashy way. It lasted about 10 minutes of the trippy part, then was plain old Indica high for the rest of the hour. If that 10 minutes lasted 4 hours, I would have called it world class.

One of the strains I have on deck is Nanan-Bouclou, which is Papua New Guinea Gold x Haitian. I heard rumors that New York City "Piff" or "Church Haze" might be Hatian. So far I'm a little concerned as it looks like an Indica x Sativa cross, but I'm going to stick with it because you never know for sure until you smoke it.

ThaiBliss

Aloa ThaiBliss

Just found your thread and while reading I felt like finding a soulbrother
I had a benchmark experience in the early 90ies on Kho Pangan, when I used to stay several month in a kind of hippie comune.
A small special gathering of people from 20 years old student to a doctor from Amsterdam who originally planed to stay for two weeks..when I met him, he was there since 3 month
We all smoked weed we got from a gypsi thai fisherman...bought a big plasticbag awfull looking brownish seedy something expecting nothing till I too the first hits.
SINCE THAT TIME I KNEW I FOUND SOMETHING WHAT I CALL "THE WHOLY GRAIL"
From the first jolly in the early sunset morning till the last one n bed late at night...EVERY FUCKIN STCIK WAS LIKE THE VERY FIRST ONE....NO TOLERANCE...NEVER COUCH LCOKIN´STUPIDNESS
Once you`ve had it, you`ll miss it the rest of your life...
Since that time I´m trying to find...well not the same( most people underestimate the CIRCUMSTANCES of those special experiences leading to those memories) BUT...something, which reminds me to those days.
And to be honest: I only know a very few people, who know what I´m talkin about, just because of the fact that SKUNK was the first and more or less only stuff, they could get.
I mean a huge development has taken place in the last 20 years..no question about..1000ends of variaties from hundrets of seedbanks...BUT...as you said..it`s not the narcotic mind fucking couch lock thing we are ooking for, even when kids and people seem to like it.

Every day I`m reading for hours, since I found ICMAG..just learning and sampling the helpfull grow diaries and threads like this one.
As I said in another thread: Reading the wrong books can have an unexpected effect on your whole life ( Ed Rosenthals growbible)
And the decision to grow is a lifechanger..not only for me, but also for my closest friends...I`m to old and life is to short for even one more bad commercial weed
So i stopped smokin and made the official promise not to smoke anymore, till I get what I want: THE BEST WEED GROWING UNDER THE BEST CIRCUMSTANCES USING THE BEST GENETIC I CAN GET.

This spring I had my first harvest..everything went much better I thought It could ever be for a first time farmer...everyone was more than happy with my organic grown Wappas, Super Lemons Hazes and Nebulas.....but I know..it`s still far away from the fishermans ganja ( by the way: he said it was from Laos/Combodia)

So I was more than electrified, when I discovered ACE
Read all the diaries and threats like yours...got that feeling YEPP MAY BE I CAN REPEAT THOSE OUTSTANDING ONE TIME EXPERIENCES...and ordered immediately Panama, Zamal, Bangi, Orientexpress and Malawi-PCK..just to start with something
And as an old Thai addict I also have to check Golden Tiger..or Malawi..or Purple Haze ..or even better....ah..fuck..life is too short indeed ( and my grow room is too small for shure)
Anyway..I´m on my way and I´m happy to find people who are ganja connaisseurs like me.
KOP KUN KAP TO ALL OF YOU AND

Cheers mate