beutiful buds ,,very nice thandee ,,the third pic down of the light green buds looks just like the weed i smoked in kalamata was great quality and had an effect like laughing gas
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The Search for Trip Weed
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Exactly harvestreaper....this is a characteristic effect of the best greek sativas....if you smoke alot ,you have a dreamy/trippy/narcotic(possibly to the point of sleep) effect like you are on a cloud and you cant stop laughing like an idiot with no reason!
The bad thing with original greek weed is that is rare....because of the law and you can find it if you know someone out in the villages!
You must search for this weed....and if someone scores greek weed and is different than those buds,the possibility is that he scores some foreign(maybe alban weed)....
Hi ctg....
All photos are not mine but they help about the appearence of greek local varieties!
The first pic is blu-poison,a variety of mine,it has the best berry smell that i have ever smell and the most strange high ,i have ever try....it reminds me of low dosage magic mashrooms....the effect its not the strongest of all but is paranoid....it sents a lot of hardcore smokers to hospital because they felt like they died of heart problems...so strange and paranoid!
the second pic is the original kalamata red and the famous red phenotype..this weed believed to be the best greek sativa from the greek people...and a lot of information from hippies of 60's 70's here in Greece say that it was the best weed hands down...better from the best thai,columbians,mexicans,africans,jamaica!
The 3rd pic is a classic Greek Red Sativa of the highest quality from Aegean Islands...local traditional weed!
The 4rth is Greek Green sativa from the general region of peloponisos(near the region of kalamata)
And is killer weed!
The 5th pic is a classic red Greek Sativa thats called blu-thunder(its a variety that maybe is the best weed that i have ever smoke)...its from northern Greece around the region of Edessa(Macedonia)!
The 6th is a local variety of the last 100years in the center of Greece(sterea Ellada)...near the capital of Greece Athens....
The 7th pic is weed from Peloponisos near the region of Kalamata(pirgos region)...and is a killer local Sativa!
The next pic is a greek green sativa near the region of kalamata....and i like green sativas because they have the less trippyeffect and they are energetic,focused,clean,happy,powerfull and you feel a top of the world high!
And the last one is the voted best bud of all...
A pheno of the original Kalamata red Sativa!
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I can see you have been there. If someone tells me they don't like it because it makes them anxious, I am eager to try it.
Goo had me nerve wracked. It was not as strong as I had hoped, but I need to test further. It could blossom after some more cure time. I also have another untested plant of Goo.
To me, not all trip weed makes me anxious. I have been on a roll finding clear and smooth trip weed. SAGE, Bangi Haze, and Nanan Bouclou are all very nice and are solidly on the trippy/cerebral spectrum. I would like to find something that scares the shit out of me. LOL.
Thanks for posting. Those look wonderful. If I get fortunate enough to visit that part of the world. I'm stopping by. LOL.
ThaiBliss
I often wonder how much of this is perspective. Based on all sorts of things...... mood, diet, setting and life experience to name a few. I too prefer trippy smoke and trippy other things.
I know many times I revisit a clone I used to adore only to see my tastes have changed. And my relationship with psychedelic has by all means matured. I used to sometimes get scared or paranoid. Or almost panic attack type highs. I know that my funguses and such have not changed, but I have grown up, stopped most of my stupid behavior, eat actual healthy food and generally have nothing to fear or be paranoid about.
I can still enjoy a great high. I still love to trip. I just rarely experience a negative effect.
I remember thinking some acid was dirty and others were clean or more pure (which is too some extent true). Well last winter I walked home from bar tripping (on fantastic L) to find my block surrounded by cops, still not sure who the were after. After coming inside and waking my wife to share some of my fear I noticed I had every negative effect associated with dirty acid. Grinding teeth, muscle cramps and achy joints. As all the cops left the neighborhood and I composed myself all the symptoms went away.
Wanna be scared, get high somewhere stupid I guess?
LMAO
I think it is a little bit of both, type of high and setting.
Thanks for your post,
ThaiBliss
I have so much to write but too little time at present.
The trippiest weed I have ever smoked was from a Macedonian grow operation in the 90s that operated out of Sydney Australia. Despite being a commercial op we had access to the dealer's head stash that was insanely powerful.
One hit and your entire world paradigm was shattered and one instantly became captured in a trancey workd. I suspected lacing but there was no evidence of this at all.
High definition vision and hearing with a magenta glow to everything. People looking like automatons and puppets. Everything having a 3D Simpsons animation feel to it.
After the initial hit which was literally like a hyperspace launch and smearing of not just vision but thoughts out into a time warp, ones heart and mind would race with thoughts. Time dilation was extreme. A minute felt like an hour and once that had settled we'd look at each other and laugh uncontrollably for minutes and then all the cartoon stuff above.
Incredible weed. I grew bagseed from it so it wasn't sinsemilla and even the growing shoots of those plants were intense.
I wish I could get some again. Nothing has ever come close since.
The trippiest weed I have ever smoked was from a Macedonian grow operation in the 90s that operated out of Sydney Australia. Despite being a commercial op we had access to the dealer's head stash that was insanely powerful.
One hit and your entire world paradigm was shattered and one instantly became captured in a trancey workd. I suspected lacing but there was no evidence of this at all.
High definition vision and hearing with a magenta glow to everything. People looking like automatons and puppets. Everything having a 3D Simpsons animation feel to it.
After the initial hit which was literally like a hyperspace launch and smearing of not just vision but thoughts out into a time warp, ones heart and mind would race with thoughts. Time dilation was extreme. A minute felt like an hour and once that had settled we'd look at each other and laugh uncontrollably for minutes and then all the cartoon stuff above.
Incredible weed. I grew bagseed from it so it wasn't sinsemilla and even the growing shoots of those plants were intense.
I wish I could get some again. Nothing has ever come close since.
Hi covert....
This weed you are talking about seems a lot like top quality Greek sativa....this type of high is characteristic of top quality Greek Sativas....
And the best Greek sativa maybe i have ever smoked in the end of 90's early '00s was from Macedonia Greece and it had this killer profile you described...and no hybrid ever comes close to things like this...did some greek weed in previous posts reminds you something?...blu-poison and bl-thunder are of macedonians Greek sativas!
Some extra information with pics of greek legend sativas!enjoy!
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=274482
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=60136
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=337622
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=86008
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=347247
Yes if i have a variety with lot of seeds....i try!Wow thandee, they are some very special Ladies i must say! And the buds, so lovely. Are u gonna work with the seeds?
but not at this moment!
The last seeds used with no reproduction...
I hope for someting in near future!
I read through this entire thread a few months ago and landed here searching for grow reports on Nanan Bouclou which I had obtained some seeds of earlier last year but had not popped due to other priorities.
At the time I had a multi strain grow of feminised Amnesia Haze, Neville's Haze and a regular AK-47/Lowryder cross created by someone else that had turned out female.
During the flowering of those three I popped a seed of Nanan Bouclou and it turned out male and I let it grow out. It had a fantastic shape to it with strong branches and a sweet fruit crossed with earth stem rub. It flowered late showing sex at around 7 weeks. I collected pollen and after taking the main harvest of the three females I left the lower branches and pollinated them all with the Nanan Bouclou pollen.
It's 6 weeks since and I have harvested the Nevilles Haze/NB cross seeds already and will harvest the remaining Amnesia Haze and AK/LR with NB cross seeds soon.
I am very excited about eventually getting the new seeds growing but I have one of the AK/LR : NB cross seeds popped and I'll be watching it closely.
Of the original three female plants the Neville's Haze is a very relaxed head high with definite body pulsing type indica effects. It's very mellow and nothing exciting. The Amnesia Haze is very similar but has more euphoria and a bit more muddled in the thinking department. Not inspiring and fairly pedestrian. The AK/LR on the other hand has a very pleasant inoffensive high which creeps up and makes everything feel fantastic. They're all good but nothing too special so I'm hoping the NB has added some fire to the mix.
I have stored the NB pollen and will use it for further breeding with the F1 and maybe F2s to try and push the genetics towards the NB sativa.
I should mention that I have smoked the growing shoots of the NB and it definitely has a buzz to it and I'd say it's about quarter strength of a standard bowl but very long lasting 3-4 hours of buzz easy.
None of these is trippy in the true sense. All have a very bastardised standard Amsterdam generic high to them. None cause panic, racing heart or paranoia.
The NB reports here give me hope that I can work the NB into all my future grows. I have some Sensi Hindu Kush and Afghan#1 going and have 2 females and 2 yet to determine plants going and both the female Hindu Kush plants which are very sativa leaning in their leaf pattern will get at least a branch pollinated with the NB and if the other two are male a branch pollinated with them also.
My original seed stock was limited by what was availble and ordering more seeds isn't really a high priority. I was driven initially by the desire to become self sufficient with a basic seed collection of my own making and so far it's a success.
I am very excited by the NB and will definitely do a NB grow in time. Until then I'll continue reading and thank you to ThaiBliss and co for starting and then maintaining the thread with post after post of great information. A pleasure to read.
The Greek sativas look absolutely amazing. Booth's book on cannabis mentions that Greece was the gateway for North African hash and cannabis into Europe in the early 20th century and the heirloom varieties there sound fantastic. May even be the origin of the 90s stuff grown by the Macedonians mentioned above.
At the time I had a multi strain grow of feminised Amnesia Haze, Neville's Haze and a regular AK-47/Lowryder cross created by someone else that had turned out female.
During the flowering of those three I popped a seed of Nanan Bouclou and it turned out male and I let it grow out. It had a fantastic shape to it with strong branches and a sweet fruit crossed with earth stem rub. It flowered late showing sex at around 7 weeks. I collected pollen and after taking the main harvest of the three females I left the lower branches and pollinated them all with the Nanan Bouclou pollen.
It's 6 weeks since and I have harvested the Nevilles Haze/NB cross seeds already and will harvest the remaining Amnesia Haze and AK/LR with NB cross seeds soon.
I am very excited about eventually getting the new seeds growing but I have one of the AK/LR : NB cross seeds popped and I'll be watching it closely.
Of the original three female plants the Neville's Haze is a very relaxed head high with definite body pulsing type indica effects. It's very mellow and nothing exciting. The Amnesia Haze is very similar but has more euphoria and a bit more muddled in the thinking department. Not inspiring and fairly pedestrian. The AK/LR on the other hand has a very pleasant inoffensive high which creeps up and makes everything feel fantastic. They're all good but nothing too special so I'm hoping the NB has added some fire to the mix.
I have stored the NB pollen and will use it for further breeding with the F1 and maybe F2s to try and push the genetics towards the NB sativa.
I should mention that I have smoked the growing shoots of the NB and it definitely has a buzz to it and I'd say it's about quarter strength of a standard bowl but very long lasting 3-4 hours of buzz easy.
None of these is trippy in the true sense. All have a very bastardised standard Amsterdam generic high to them. None cause panic, racing heart or paranoia.
The NB reports here give me hope that I can work the NB into all my future grows. I have some Sensi Hindu Kush and Afghan#1 going and have 2 females and 2 yet to determine plants going and both the female Hindu Kush plants which are very sativa leaning in their leaf pattern will get at least a branch pollinated with the NB and if the other two are male a branch pollinated with them also.
My original seed stock was limited by what was availble and ordering more seeds isn't really a high priority. I was driven initially by the desire to become self sufficient with a basic seed collection of my own making and so far it's a success.
I am very excited by the NB and will definitely do a NB grow in time. Until then I'll continue reading and thank you to ThaiBliss and co for starting and then maintaining the thread with post after post of great information. A pleasure to read.
The Greek sativas look absolutely amazing. Booth's book on cannabis mentions that Greece was the gateway for North African hash and cannabis into Europe in the early 20th century and the heirloom varieties there sound fantastic. May even be the origin of the 90s stuff grown by the Macedonians mentioned above.
covert, I had similar but mine took more that 1 hit. All the effects you describe. My body seemed to melt into the surroundings, no sense of self. This stuff had me tripping like acid but in a way better. Mexican most likely.
Never saw it again '75 was the year. True trip weed is out there but rare, I am searching.
Never saw it again '75 was the year. True trip weed is out there but rare, I am searching.
yes-um...
Crazy action...on this!
its the KalamataRed Sativa!...
Probably the most mythic greek sativa of them all...
But i am not sure if its the best of all!
In the end I can declare that even the search.... for trip weed can be very rewarding. I personally think trip weed emerges as another miraculous property of this beautiful plant.
A supernova if you like. A stellar phenotype that has an intense but very short lived existence. The blowing up of the supernova takes the genes out and spreads it thin again. And then we build again to another climax. Each cycle seems to be around 30 years. The mid sixties to seventies and then from late 90s to early noughties that such spectacular specimens are experienced.
We’re mid way to another climax
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On another note I had the first decently cured bud of Neville's Haze and I must say that it's a great place to be. Vaped the taste is pine on the inhale, followed by a sour mandarin citrus aftertaste with emphasis on the mandarin.
The punch is quick. Imaginary body proprioception is swayed back and forth sending one into a split that comes back together. It's hard to control one's limbs and walking is a chore. Very clear head high and medium frequency surface kneading type vibrations over face, chest and arms.
Ultra warm feelings.
Unfortunately not trippy but excellent overall. An easy 3.5-4 out of 5.
So that's one parent (female) of my cross with Nanan-Bouclou.
A supernova if you like. A stellar phenotype that has an intense but very short lived existence. The blowing up of the supernova takes the genes out and spreads it thin again. And then we build again to another climax. Each cycle seems to be around 30 years. The mid sixties to seventies and then from late 90s to early noughties that such spectacular specimens are experienced.
We’re mid way to another climax
———
On another note I had the first decently cured bud of Neville's Haze and I must say that it's a great place to be. Vaped the taste is pine on the inhale, followed by a sour mandarin citrus aftertaste with emphasis on the mandarin.
The punch is quick. Imaginary body proprioception is swayed back and forth sending one into a split that comes back together. It's hard to control one's limbs and walking is a chore. Very clear head high and medium frequency surface kneading type vibrations over face, chest and arms.
Ultra warm feelings.
Unfortunately not trippy but excellent overall. An easy 3.5-4 out of 5.
So that's one parent (female) of my cross with Nanan-Bouclou.
Hi covert....
This weed you are talking about seems a lot like top quality Greek sativa....this type of high is characteristic of top quality Greek Sativas....
And the best Greek sativa maybe i have ever smoked in the end of 90's early '00s was from Macedonia Greece and it had this killer profile you described...and no hybrid ever comes close to things like this...did some greek weed in previous posts reminds you something?...blu-poison and bl-thunder are of macedonians Greek sativas!
Some extra information with pics of greek legend sativas!enjoy!
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=274482
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=60136
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=337622
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=86008
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=347247
Thanks for the links. I subscribed to every single one. LOL. Sounds like what I'm looking for. It will take me a while to read them, but I have some days off of work next week. This reading will inspire me to work in the garden if the weather is decent.
This reading will inspire me to work in the garden if the weather is decent.
Hi Thai...i will be glad if something will inspire you for generally something good to happen....
That's my main goal of posting in this thread....
Inspiration for something good to happen in the cannabis community...
Thandee here!
It's a real shame that many of the heartlands of these great strains are war torn or in strife. The old style pilgrimages to these lands to freshen up the home genetic pool doesn't happen like it could I suspect. Not like it would have in the 1960’s before heavy handed prosecution of international anti-cannabis laws put a stop to it.
It's ThaiBliss’ smoke report on NB that made me enjoy growing the solitary male I ended up getting from a germination and fortunately it was a fantastic male in structure and effect. Some iso hash I made from the leaves turned out slightly more amber than I would have liked but it's an insane buzz that is like an undecorated base frequency vibration with no specific character. A perfect male maybe? It was a neutral high that possibly will allow the notes of the female to colour or shape the high.
Still have a small pouch of the dried pollen in the freezer for breeding projects.
I harvested around 50 seeds from the next stage of my harvest and have some 14 wk 20% amber trich, seeded buds of Amnesia Haze with the NB male as parent to get more seeds from and smoke.
I'm very excited about the NB genetics. The strongest most vigorous plant I have seen. It got to around 60 cm in 7 weeks in a 2 Litre pot all the way on a 12:12 from seed LED light and had to be topped several times when I sampled its growing shoots for interim smoke.
It's ThaiBliss’ smoke report on NB that made me enjoy growing the solitary male I ended up getting from a germination and fortunately it was a fantastic male in structure and effect. Some iso hash I made from the leaves turned out slightly more amber than I would have liked but it's an insane buzz that is like an undecorated base frequency vibration with no specific character. A perfect male maybe? It was a neutral high that possibly will allow the notes of the female to colour or shape the high.
Still have a small pouch of the dried pollen in the freezer for breeding projects.
I harvested around 50 seeds from the next stage of my harvest and have some 14 wk 20% amber trich, seeded buds of Amnesia Haze with the NB male as parent to get more seeds from and smoke.
I'm very excited about the NB genetics. The strongest most vigorous plant I have seen. It got to around 60 cm in 7 weeks in a 2 Litre pot all the way on a 12:12 from seed LED light and had to be topped several times when I sampled its growing shoots for interim smoke.
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I can confirm that..south balkan ganja can be strong!!
I smoke a lot of albanian low-mid grade,the effects range from narcotic,euphoric,up,stony pony,dreamy and trippy/psychedelic....but common line is STROONG effect. 5 years ago I smoked a weed sooo trippy that I think...this weed is laced with PCP,so out of controll,manic,dissociative,when I close the eyes I can see my bedroom but like 30 years before with old furniture,I can see out of the home and see old woods behind my house,that was chopped long before,out body experience with mind, a really soft warm white and really hard sharpened black,weird body sensation where I roll in an assembly line,very trippy experience.
n.b I never took Pcp, I do not know how the furniture was 30 years ago,low tolerance can explain some shit...but also now I smoke like one time a week for job paranoia,but don't blast me off like this and I'm smoking a very good dry sift,stong yes ,psychedelic some but no alien shit here 
I smoke a lot of albanian low-mid grade,the effects range from narcotic,euphoric,up,stony pony,dreamy and trippy/psychedelic....but common line is STROONG effect. 5 years ago I smoked a weed sooo trippy that I think...this weed is laced with PCP,so out of controll,manic,dissociative,when I close the eyes I can see my bedroom but like 30 years before with old furniture,I can see out of the home and see old woods behind my house,that was chopped long before,out body experience with mind, a really soft warm white and really hard sharpened black,weird body sensation where I roll in an assembly line,very trippy experience.
n.b I never took Pcp, I do not know how the furniture was 30 years ago,low tolerance can explain some shit...but also now I smoke like one time a week for job paranoia
,but don't blast me off like this and I'm smoking a very good dry sift,stong yes ,psychedelic some but no alien shit here 
