The search for a proper recovery pump..

[knowhere]

would you mind giving me the model number of the SSR and show me a wiring diagram from power supply / pressure switch / 120VAC on the relay,

I have wired flip boxes before and this seems like a similar configuration but I would rather not make a mistake here and short out a part.


Is the SSR a potential spark source or is it a sealed relay ?

As always thank you most kindly

 

[Gray Wolf]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AUTOMATIOND...181?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item338fb21e6d

this one ?

also how do you wire this or what cable / where do you get the cable for this switch to wire it to the relay ?

Yup, I grabbed the last two.

I bought the cable from Automation direct.

 

[Permacultuure]

Hey GW.....Can a 15hp screw compressor run multiple haskels?

 

[Gray Wolf]

Hey GW.....Can a 15hp screw compressor run multiple haskels?

It would run them at a slower speed.

A good screw compressor will produce around 4 cfm per horsepower.

You need 40 cfm per pump for full performance.

 

[Permacultuure]

So tough to justify 10-12k on one machines recovery....but these appions/promaxs just keep piling up.......

30 hp screw = 16.5K

Thank you GW!

 

[Gray Wolf]

So tough to justify 10-12k on one machines recovery....but these appions/promaxs just keep piling up.......

30 hp screw = 16.5K

Thank you GW!

WolfWurx, Inc supplies only the Haskels for liability reasons, but I personally run a setup with a Gast DAA-501P-GB and Promax 6000 pump, because I can't justify or afford to buy and run a 10 hp compressor.

For commercial application, it is not only affordable as a cost of doing business, but it is the cheapest option I've found to make the fire marshals happy, without compromising the quality of the medications.

They are fast compared to pumps like Appions and Promax's, and are explosion proof, albeit noisy, so sound control is a consideration to keep in mind.

The Gast/ProMax setup is also fast compared to just two Promaxes, and greatly extends the periods between Promax rebuilds. So far we haven't had to after a couple months, despite it operating on a Mk V running long hours daily for two months, so it it has certainly been an improvement, if not the great panacea.

 

[Loc Dog]

I, and the community owe you a lot!!!!

Be Well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Chonkski]

WolfWurx, Inc supplies only the Haskels for liability reasons, but I personally run a setup with a Gast DAA-501P-GB and Promax 6000 pump, because I can't justify or afford to buy and run a 10 hp compressor.

For commercial application, it is not only affordable as a cost of doing business, but it is the cheapest option I've found to make the fire marshals happy, without compromising the quality of the medications.

They are fast compared to pumps like Appions and Promax's, and are explosion proof, albeit noisy, so sound control is a consideration to keep in mind.

The Gast/ProMax setup is also fast compared to just two Promaxes, and greatly extends the periods between Promax rebuilds. So far we haven't had to after a couple months, despite it operating on a Mk V running long hours daily for two months, so it it has certainly been an improvement, if not the great panacea.

When ordering from AOP tech, must one provide a business or liscence?

 

[We_Dem_BHOyz]

This is my first post to this forum. I have however, read so many of the threads. I paid particular attention to the threads that contained the most info on Bhogart Extractors and Across Intl. vac ovens. I would like to thank all of you who have taken the time to share your experiences and ideas.
Anyway, I am looking for a safe alternative recovery pump to run alongside my Appion g-5 and Bhogart 5lb Extractor, as a backup/secondary, as the need arises.
I recently came across the CPS TR-21 and the remote submersible condenser/evaporator MT-59 and I was wondering if this pump and the condenser coil(in-line after the recovery pump, before the 50lb LP type recovery tank, I would submerse the coil in a salted ice water bath).

Would this setup be safe? Would it decrease recovery times in the configuration I described? Is there a better configuration to achieve the desired outcome (ie: putting the coil before the pump or not using it at all or even using the remote coil with the appion)?

Any help I can get from the community would be greatly appreciated.

 

[prune]

The CPS-21 hasn't been in favor since it became known that it wasn't really oil-less. Appions and Promaxs alone or in conjunction with a diaphragm pump are current de rigueur.

 

[icdog]

The cps-21 isn't oiless?

 

[Permacultuure]

The CPS-21 hasn't been in favor since it became known that it wasn't really oil-less. Appions and Promaxs alone or in conjunction with a diaphragm pump are current de rigueur.

Yes it is oil less....the caresaver however is not.

 

[TheArchitect]

What about one of these? I couldn't find a price anywhere though.

http://www.corken.com/reciprocating_compressor_ind_vertical

http://www.reftec.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=28

T-style compressors can handle the same applications as a D-Style compressor. These include transfer of liquids between tanks, off-load/load out liquids, recover residual vapor, pressure boosting, etc. The T-style, however, offers the advantage of precise leakage control. The T-style compressor was designed to provide maximum leakage control when handling toxic, hazardous, and explosive gases.

Options

Corken offers a broad range of material options. Corken also offers various corrosion resistant coatings, valve options, and equipment configurations. Corken supplies custom engineered packages as well. Skid mounted units can be supplied with control panels, safety controls, receiver tanks, liquid traps, and other special accessories as required.

Features

Two compartment distance piece
Threaded and ANSI flanges
Oil-free design
Self-lubricating teflon piston rings
Ductile iron construction
Positive piston rod/packing alignment
O-ring gaskets
High-efficiency valves
Purge or pad capability
Double distance piece (T-Style)

Designed for improved leakage control, this option has three separate sets of packing per piston rod which effectively form two distinct distance pieces or barriers to external leakage. Each distance piece has its own line connections and can be separately pressurized, purged or vented to provide a wide range of application flexibility. For added convenience, purge kit options are available that include all the accessories needed to control the purging or pressurization of each chamber.

Serviceability

Corken compressors are designed to minimize required maintenance and make such maintenance extremely simple. Valve replacement may be accomplished without disturbing the piping and ring replacement may be accomplished by simply removing the head.

Selection

Corken offers a broad range of models and corresponding piston displacements. The oil-free units range from 7 to 60 cfm (11.9-102 m3/hr). Depending on the compression ratio, Corken provides either single- or two-stage compressors for efficient gas compression.

Everything I've read on them says this is what we need.

 

[Rickys bong]

There are several in the same class as Corken from Rix, Haug, Blackmer and others but these are usually a minimum of 5hp and the price range is from $30k to $100k.
No I'm not joking...

RB

 

[Gray Wolf]

When ordering from AOP tech, must one provide a business or liscence?

I'm pretty sure that they sell to the general public.

 

[Gray Wolf]

There are several in the same class as Corken from Rix, Haug, Blackmer and others but these are usually a minimum of 5hp and the price range is from $30k to $100k.
No I'm not joking...

RB

Yeah, we've drooled over the Corkens, and still consider them for deep pocket applications.

 

[Gray Wolf]

The first Gast prototype got noisy and just went for repairs and we are now running the spare. We will report back on what they find.

 

[TheArchitect]

There are several in the same class as Corken from Rix, Haug, Blackmer and others but these are usually a minimum of 5hp and the price range is from $30k to $100k.
No I'm not joking...

RB

Damn, I had a feeling they would be expensive , but that is steep.

Would be a great option for someone who wants to startup a large extraction service company. I imagine you could run multiple extractors off one pump, and process hundreds of pounds a day.

 

[Chonkski]

should I get the piston seal kit along with the compression rebuilt kit?

what else will I need when the seals do go out on my promax?

 

[Eugerk]

First time here....

First time here....

GW,

Looking at your schematic for the Gast I'm wondering how you're connecting the 50# tank to the PROMAX. I think I read that you have a manifold connecting the vessel to the diaphragm pump, then the flow enters the 50# tank (I presume) through the vapor port. Do you have a T off of the vapor port to connect to the PROMAX? Are you using the tank as an 'acid trap' and therefore the flow enters through the liquid port and leaves through the vapor port? If you would clarify I would appreciate it. Thank You for all you do.