here's some info from another thread we were RKS chattin in
T2U- sorry...cheese is no where near rks...not even close.
STRETCHPUP - chesse doesnt even smell like skunk IMO, it's a powerful sweet + pungent and aromatic... almost borderline commercial cleaner or something.
TRICERATOPS - I would like to throw in a little tidbit of info for you guys who are holding out on the Shoreline clone being RKS. SORRY guys, but shoreline is a lemony limey funk smell, and its not even close to RKS by a real loooong shot. Seriously though, Cheese and Shoreline on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the strongest, rate about a 2 compared the old RKS which should be an 11.
There is simply no comparison! I know because the old RKS is the standard by which i measure all other herb and believe me, the Shoreline just doesn't measure up to her. I hope this helps!
INLINE6 - think half of the ppl out there that talk about RKS dont know what the hell they are talkin about, and never smoked it. Just like me, never smoked it so I dont know how shoreline compares to it. RKS is supposed to be phenos from the original breedings of SK1 and they chose to move towards the fruity phenos cause the others were to smelly?? First of all that sounds kinda odd that growers looking for the best dank selected away from RKS but whatever..But IMO, its the closest thing ppl are going to find to that skunky of an actual SK pheno, which I personally think it resembles in bud structure, every other type of actual skunk including super skunks and the cheese clone. Now I havent grown the cheese for myself, so maybe my opinion would change on it, but from what Ive tried Id NEVER grow it, but everyone keeps raving on and on about it so I would like to give it another shot.
All I have to say is one mans trash is another mans treasure, cause some of you love sourd, and I like the taste alot too but its Fukkin junk, come on, worst growing plant ever, poor rooting, and miserable duration of potency, not to mention extremely sensitive to all conditions, of which any small mishap results in a harvest more similar to mersch. Would grow or smoke shore over it anyday personally, and I am sick of smoking shore Ive smoked so much. It definitely has a lemon/astringent/fuel smell to it but it all depends on how you grow it and how dialed in it is. Im currently smoking some coco grown shore that has very little smells other than putrid, nose burning skunk smell, with a splash of gasoline. Taste is that of skunk, period, which means its atleast desireable to growers seeking something skunky, even though it might not be the ever elusive/nonexistant RKS.
WILDFIRE - ive never bought that one personally. it seems like sam's reasoning for why he named a strain 'skunk #1' that wasnt. my region was big for the RKS cash-cropping that got it all over the states and no skunk #1 ive ever seen was even close.
a couple old-timers have told me RKS was never quite roadkill when grown inside but kind of off of that. so i think im going to do some shore outside this coming summer in a big way and we shall see. the only guy i knew still growing RKS around me is doing a bit of time at the moment...
ELGATO- agree Wildfire......the RKS i got was no sk #1......no way, no how...nothing like it
the best of the RKS i got , had to be a pure or almost pure 'ghani imho
....shit had that skunkyness....alomst like opening a heinekin or something
and extreme skunky/hashy taste
it was rumored to be greenhouse grown
colas as long as your forearm and dense crystal covered stink the house up in a minute shit
god, what i wouldnt give to have some RKS
T2U - i honestly have never believed it from day one...as you all know where i stand on that subject....i've seen no trace of rks in any skunk#1 ever...out of all the skunks i've grown including cheese which dates back to the late 80's.
i'm burning an outdoor cheese doobie as i type.....so the grow it outside theory doesn't hold up for cheese....although cheese is good in it's own way and tastes old schoolish to me i don't get any skunk smell or flavor at all really...and the appearance isn't of rks either....but thats old news for most.
she grows nice, clones nice, has nice vigor, is unique in her own way but if your looking for rks your barking up the wrong plant...and i wouldn't doubt the wrong line all together.
TOMHILL- One excellent example of road kill skunk can be had by crossing DC with the Northern Indian Indica that was past along to Zamalito & a few others. I have done this in the past and labeled it "Deep Skunk 9". Although the ds9 seeds that I past along here were in the absence of progeny testing & therefore certainly not the best example of it, you absolutely can get there via that avenue. The "fluffy structure" I've heard in describing the final product, imo, was mearly a sign of the times. Big bro had us deep under cover back then & all pounds were pretty much the size of the side of the barn back then due to shade growing. Indoor outdoor should not matter, the genetics certainly do though.
BRITISH HEMPIRE- Folks who were around in Texas and Georgia and other places in the Se in the 80s have often mentioned that they are pretty sure the RKS they used to know was outdoor Afghani from the SE, so maybe an old Georgia 'Skunk' is where you wanna look. I've had a lot of very stinky Afghanis so i can well believe something legendary for it's funk was/is an Afghan.
I'm sure there never was a really funky pheno within Skunk #1, the Cheese is an example of a very, very smelly Skunk #1 pheno and it's sweet, I've never seen or smoked a Skunk #1 that wasn't sweet. In my experience, the biggest yielding, best-looking Skunk #1 phenos were the sweetest in taste, probably leaning to the Acapulco side, they also tended to have paler green leaves and calyxes. The other side has slightly thinner leaves that are darker and is a little less sweet, a little musky note in there, probably the Colombian side. But I've never seen any Skunk #1 that could be the RKS folks talk about.
T2U, I really hope you find the RKS you;re looking for one day, I have followed your threads and I know how hard you've looked so far! I'd say look at Afghan lines and perhaps some Skunk x Afghan for the real funk you seek.
Funny Sam S never joins in on these Skunk discussions, sometimes I get the feeling he's sick of the word 'skunk' lol.
ORDER 66- I agree 100%
I grew up i the mid-south (TN) and while there may well have been rks type plants grown in cali, it was definitely a "southern" thing where I was from -- I think the idea that it was some sort of outdoor-grown acclimatised afghani or hybrid in TN/NC/GA is right on, at least for what I consider to be the real rks. I remember that stuff like yesterday, never saw it after 97 or 98, as I guess the old guys quit growing, were busted, or moved inside w/dutch seeds.
TRICERATOPS- Inline... You are correct in your statement when you say that 1/2 the people out there do not know what RKS is because they have never seen or puffed her. However, I am speaking from experience because i watched 2 RKS phenotypes grow from 96-00 and i can honestly say 100% that shoreline and RKS are 2 completely different species.
The SL and the Cheese both grow a sativa like structured plant with the capability of HUGE colas and massive yields. The RKS grew virtually identical to Bubba Kush with a short stocky plant, rock hard, hairless nugs that even turned purple as well. This lends me to believe that the original RKS leaned heavily to the afghani lineage, and I am going to have to agree with Wildfire, T2U, and a few others and say there is no way Cheese originated from RKS because they are just far too different in every aspect as well. (taste,smell,grow profile)
I recently sent some samples of the SL to Beancounter because he is a RKS lover and upon receiving his phone call, his first response was, Where is the SKUNK smell? He said, all i smell is lemon/limey smell with some funk. My reply... I told ya!
Ive had 2 harvest now with the Shoreline.
1st run 29oz 4x4 tray and 1kw
2nd run 31oz 4x4 tray and 1kw
All in all she is a very nice strain with outstanding commercial potential, but not my cup of tea to be honest. I really will not reach for her until everything else is completely gone from my other jars and to me that says a lot about a strain. While i still have access to the SL, i am not going to be keeping her in my garden any longer. I will continue to hunt for the RKS until she has been procured and she is safe at home.
SOULREBEL- Now we're talkin'!!! IMO a bit stretchier plant than Bubba. Long Live SoCal Roadkill Skunk circa 1991-1994...
T2U- RKS was everywhere....we got people representin cali...we got people representin the south....now here i am representin the north...northern midwest about 6 hours from the canadian border.
75% of the buds i smoked from about 92-93 to right around 96-97 were RKS. some indoor but mostly outdoor....the indoor was going around as superskunk and was some of the best i've smoked to date....the outdoor was simply going around as skunk bud...some called it 911 skunk.
the indoor was more sativa style...longer fluffier style buds with a little more red hairs, real crystally and stunk just like a skunk.
the outdoor resembled bubba kush nugs but what i was getting wasn't quite as dense as bubba....they were more spongy...like the type u squeez and they just go back to how they were before you squeezed them..golf ball nugs, lime green, tightly woven leaves, barely any hairs at all....just reeked of skunk...nothing more nothing less...just a straight skunk reek....no if's and's or but's about it....straight roadkill...all day ....everyday.
T2U- sorry...cheese is no where near rks...not even close.
STRETCHPUP - chesse doesnt even smell like skunk IMO, it's a powerful sweet + pungent and aromatic... almost borderline commercial cleaner or something.
TRICERATOPS - I would like to throw in a little tidbit of info for you guys who are holding out on the Shoreline clone being RKS. SORRY guys, but shoreline is a lemony limey funk smell, and its not even close to RKS by a real loooong shot. Seriously though, Cheese and Shoreline on a scale of 1-10 with 10 being the strongest, rate about a 2 compared the old RKS which should be an 11.
There is simply no comparison! I know because the old RKS is the standard by which i measure all other herb and believe me, the Shoreline just doesn't measure up to her. I hope this helps!
INLINE6 - think half of the ppl out there that talk about RKS dont know what the hell they are talkin about, and never smoked it. Just like me, never smoked it so I dont know how shoreline compares to it. RKS is supposed to be phenos from the original breedings of SK1 and they chose to move towards the fruity phenos cause the others were to smelly?? First of all that sounds kinda odd that growers looking for the best dank selected away from RKS but whatever..But IMO, its the closest thing ppl are going to find to that skunky of an actual SK pheno, which I personally think it resembles in bud structure, every other type of actual skunk including super skunks and the cheese clone. Now I havent grown the cheese for myself, so maybe my opinion would change on it, but from what Ive tried Id NEVER grow it, but everyone keeps raving on and on about it so I would like to give it another shot.
All I have to say is one mans trash is another mans treasure, cause some of you love sourd, and I like the taste alot too but its Fukkin junk, come on, worst growing plant ever, poor rooting, and miserable duration of potency, not to mention extremely sensitive to all conditions, of which any small mishap results in a harvest more similar to mersch. Would grow or smoke shore over it anyday personally, and I am sick of smoking shore Ive smoked so much. It definitely has a lemon/astringent/fuel smell to it but it all depends on how you grow it and how dialed in it is. Im currently smoking some coco grown shore that has very little smells other than putrid, nose burning skunk smell, with a splash of gasoline. Taste is that of skunk, period, which means its atleast desireable to growers seeking something skunky, even though it might not be the ever elusive/nonexistant RKS.
WILDFIRE - ive never bought that one personally. it seems like sam's reasoning for why he named a strain 'skunk #1' that wasnt. my region was big for the RKS cash-cropping that got it all over the states and no skunk #1 ive ever seen was even close.
a couple old-timers have told me RKS was never quite roadkill when grown inside but kind of off of that. so i think im going to do some shore outside this coming summer in a big way and we shall see. the only guy i knew still growing RKS around me is doing a bit of time at the moment...
ELGATO- agree Wildfire......the RKS i got was no sk #1......no way, no how...nothing like it
the best of the RKS i got , had to be a pure or almost pure 'ghani imho
....shit had that skunkyness....alomst like opening a heinekin or something
and extreme skunky/hashy taste
it was rumored to be greenhouse grown
colas as long as your forearm and dense crystal covered stink the house up in a minute shit
god, what i wouldnt give to have some RKS
T2U - i honestly have never believed it from day one...as you all know where i stand on that subject....i've seen no trace of rks in any skunk#1 ever...out of all the skunks i've grown including cheese which dates back to the late 80's.
i'm burning an outdoor cheese doobie as i type.....so the grow it outside theory doesn't hold up for cheese....although cheese is good in it's own way and tastes old schoolish to me i don't get any skunk smell or flavor at all really...and the appearance isn't of rks either....but thats old news for most.
she grows nice, clones nice, has nice vigor, is unique in her own way but if your looking for rks your barking up the wrong plant...and i wouldn't doubt the wrong line all together.
TOMHILL- One excellent example of road kill skunk can be had by crossing DC with the Northern Indian Indica that was past along to Zamalito & a few others. I have done this in the past and labeled it "Deep Skunk 9". Although the ds9 seeds that I past along here were in the absence of progeny testing & therefore certainly not the best example of it, you absolutely can get there via that avenue. The "fluffy structure" I've heard in describing the final product, imo, was mearly a sign of the times. Big bro had us deep under cover back then & all pounds were pretty much the size of the side of the barn back then due to shade growing. Indoor outdoor should not matter, the genetics certainly do though.
BRITISH HEMPIRE- Folks who were around in Texas and Georgia and other places in the Se in the 80s have often mentioned that they are pretty sure the RKS they used to know was outdoor Afghani from the SE, so maybe an old Georgia 'Skunk' is where you wanna look. I've had a lot of very stinky Afghanis so i can well believe something legendary for it's funk was/is an Afghan.
I'm sure there never was a really funky pheno within Skunk #1, the Cheese is an example of a very, very smelly Skunk #1 pheno and it's sweet, I've never seen or smoked a Skunk #1 that wasn't sweet. In my experience, the biggest yielding, best-looking Skunk #1 phenos were the sweetest in taste, probably leaning to the Acapulco side, they also tended to have paler green leaves and calyxes. The other side has slightly thinner leaves that are darker and is a little less sweet, a little musky note in there, probably the Colombian side. But I've never seen any Skunk #1 that could be the RKS folks talk about.
T2U, I really hope you find the RKS you;re looking for one day, I have followed your threads and I know how hard you've looked so far! I'd say look at Afghan lines and perhaps some Skunk x Afghan for the real funk you seek.
Funny Sam S never joins in on these Skunk discussions, sometimes I get the feeling he's sick of the word 'skunk' lol.
ORDER 66- I agree 100%
I grew up i the mid-south (TN) and while there may well have been rks type plants grown in cali, it was definitely a "southern" thing where I was from -- I think the idea that it was some sort of outdoor-grown acclimatised afghani or hybrid in TN/NC/GA is right on, at least for what I consider to be the real rks. I remember that stuff like yesterday, never saw it after 97 or 98, as I guess the old guys quit growing, were busted, or moved inside w/dutch seeds.
TRICERATOPS- Inline... You are correct in your statement when you say that 1/2 the people out there do not know what RKS is because they have never seen or puffed her. However, I am speaking from experience because i watched 2 RKS phenotypes grow from 96-00 and i can honestly say 100% that shoreline and RKS are 2 completely different species.
The SL and the Cheese both grow a sativa like structured plant with the capability of HUGE colas and massive yields. The RKS grew virtually identical to Bubba Kush with a short stocky plant, rock hard, hairless nugs that even turned purple as well. This lends me to believe that the original RKS leaned heavily to the afghani lineage, and I am going to have to agree with Wildfire, T2U, and a few others and say there is no way Cheese originated from RKS because they are just far too different in every aspect as well. (taste,smell,grow profile)
I recently sent some samples of the SL to Beancounter because he is a RKS lover and upon receiving his phone call, his first response was, Where is the SKUNK smell? He said, all i smell is lemon/limey smell with some funk. My reply... I told ya!
Ive had 2 harvest now with the Shoreline.
1st run 29oz 4x4 tray and 1kw
2nd run 31oz 4x4 tray and 1kw
All in all she is a very nice strain with outstanding commercial potential, but not my cup of tea to be honest. I really will not reach for her until everything else is completely gone from my other jars and to me that says a lot about a strain. While i still have access to the SL, i am not going to be keeping her in my garden any longer. I will continue to hunt for the RKS until she has been procured and she is safe at home.
SOULREBEL- Now we're talkin'!!! IMO a bit stretchier plant than Bubba. Long Live SoCal Roadkill Skunk circa 1991-1994...
T2U- RKS was everywhere....we got people representin cali...we got people representin the south....now here i am representin the north...northern midwest about 6 hours from the canadian border.
75% of the buds i smoked from about 92-93 to right around 96-97 were RKS. some indoor but mostly outdoor....the indoor was going around as superskunk and was some of the best i've smoked to date....the outdoor was simply going around as skunk bud...some called it 911 skunk.
the indoor was more sativa style...longer fluffier style buds with a little more red hairs, real crystally and stunk just like a skunk.
the outdoor resembled bubba kush nugs but what i was getting wasn't quite as dense as bubba....they were more spongy...like the type u squeez and they just go back to how they were before you squeezed them..golf ball nugs, lime green, tightly woven leaves, barely any hairs at all....just reeked of skunk...nothing more nothing less...just a straight skunk reek....no if's and's or but's about it....straight roadkill...all day ....everyday.
mitsu
