The Roadkill Skunk Fan Club

[Guest]

Shanti, Is working with some as we speak. Flame me, I don't care.

Why would anyone flame you? This is a fact.

For the record. You can take the Good Old USA for a good amount of strains that where taken over to Holland. If your going to try to talk your way out of it. Let's just start digging out all the old magazines and start posting article. We can start with Nevilles, Sam, Haze Bro's, Shanti and so on.

Yes, this is also a well known fact. Alot of varietys, that are considered staples in the industry came from the US.

Personally, I could careless who has what or where the hell it came from. USA,Holland, Chine,Thailand,Loas,South America, Canada. Point being and i think allot will agree. Great cannabis is great cannabis. Who, the **** cares where it's from and who is better.

This is what i hate about being online. It's nothing like sitting around with your buddies smoking out and bullshitting about smoke. BOY, it's so different when your smoking. We are so much easier to please when High... lolol

However, alot of people care where it came from. Alot of folks want to know the lineage of their variety, the history behind it and its point of origin. Have you seen seed prices lately? People want to know exactly what they are spending their money on, because its costing them an arm and leg to get these genetics for the most part. So its a necessity to realize not all NL are created equal for example. Thats where folks are going to start caring where it came from, when they want the best bang for their buck. Who wants to spend $150 on some feminized Critical Mass when they could get the original F1 Critical Mass for half that? Thats where folks are going to start caring, and why you, me......us should care about the genetics we are getting.

The time and effort put into these varietys, the history...........absolutely dictate why we should all care. Do you realize how much work was put into Skunk#1 for example? Just read what the skunkman has to say, and then you realize this isnt some ordinary closet **** we are talking about. These are professional breed varietys, that people have dedicated their lives too. Skunk#1 not being the only variety by any means.

When people put their entire lively hood into something, diminishing it like some of you here in this thread are doing is disrespectful and disgraceful.

Its attitudes like these, they I dont care where it came from attitude........that make the communities of today stand out in stark contrast from the communities of yester year when facts actually counted. Respect was something to be earned, admired and sought after. Now, its all lies and greed. Nobody cares about facts, they care about the quickest route too a few bucks. Its really depressing on a few levels. I had recently viewed a thread from a member who expresssed similar views. Sadly, veteran posters are leaving never to return because of situations like this when their are 15 noobies coming in to take their place.

 

[Guest]

Morning ShaolinBushido

Of course i care where they come from as for genes. I just don't care where they came from IE USA, Holland, etc. I'm not to well with my internet posting wording. sorry. I'm with you on the amount of cash one spends on seeds. A lot of members here know. I'm one that HATES high dollar seeds. I don't like the fact that some vendors charge way to much for seeds. I also hate when they say they have this big overhead. Fun, How i can do it for allot cheaper and yes. I can do it on a large scale. Wait and watch. You'll see the large plant selection and large amount of light, etc.

I do agree with you. Just my wording was wrong. I love knowing where my seeds came from and the gene back ground. Your right and sorry for the wrong wording on where the seeds came from. I'm a person that just loves good cannabis. I love growing it out and watching what comes from it. I just wish members wouldn't fire over most of the stuff they do. I don't know what else to say. Your right about old members leaving and not coming back. Not a good thing. I've thought about it myself, but i've been here since day one and i'm not going any where's. Still a lot of great members here and new ones coming here every day. Well, take care and sorry about the wording and meaning behide that post. Have a nice weekend.
Take care,
BG

 

[ctg]

re:

re:

working with sk1 is NOT working with the roadkill that the public wants.
it will always just be sk1. If the breeders working sk1 are happy with what they have then I suppose that's all that matters...

tis just a totally diff strain/hybrid to the original skunk bud!
I'm not here to chase people off but I personally don't think the results of all the sk1 breeding hoopla hold a candle to the real deal skunk bud! when people claim to hold a true skunk line it best be rank like a skunk and not sweet!



-ctg-

 

[ilife]

The Skunk Pioneer

The Skunk Pioneer

This is a article from the site Cannabis Eye.
Pioneers from the Early Days of Dutch Marijuana Breeding

The breeze of history is blowing, as the 'Flying Dutchman' Eddie lets his mind travel back and describes scenarios like this: "Every time when Nevil fro 'The Seed Bank' opened his post box, masses of letters with fat dollar notes spilled out. In his Dutch breeding facilities, he produced extra potent marijuana seeds and most profitably sent them to the USA, which was like being in a gold rush."

I could listen for hours, when Eddie Reekeder, founder and owner of the Dutch seed company The Flying Dutchmen, speaks about the early days of the Dutch cannabis boom in the mid 80's, in which he himself played an essential role. Apart from the aforementioned Australian Nevil, founder of the legendary Dutch 'Seed Bank', and Ben Dronkers (Sensi Seeds), Eddie was one of the famous three skunk pioneers who obtained a collection of superb true breeding strains in 1984 from an American guy called 'The Skunk Man'. Amongst them the ground breaking Skunk#1, Early California, Haze, Thai, Mexican, Afghan and South African.

"At first, I rejected the skunk man's offer, because he demanded extraordinarily high prices for his seeds, and we in Holland were not used to this. Until then, we had cultivated mainly The Purple and The Green Lemon in Greenhouses, and were fairly proud of these own Dutch creations. However, we did not have the slightest idea of the fact that the potency of our 'Nederwiet' was worlds apart from the super strong US strains", Eddie reports. But 'The Skunk Man' gave Eddie some free Skunk seeds, so that he could convince himself. After having grown the seeds, Eddie was not only convinced, but totally overwhelmed by the results of his first Skunk crop: "It was immediately clear to me that these seeds would radically change the whole Dutch marijuana scene. These huge and extremely resinous Skunk buds were sensational, and their THC content and amazing aroma catapulted us into new dimensions. In addition to that, the plants ripened very early and showed great uniformity."

Then everything happened quickly; the age of extensive marijuana greenhouse cultivation in the Netherlands began. Eddie and others came into contact with discreet tomato farmers who were willing to lease their large greenhouses for marijuana cultivation. "In the beginning, it was of course pretty hard work to convince these kinds of conservative farmers, but finally, money was the crucial factor, and both sides profited from the operation." Although in the 70's, Eddie had run his own flower shop in Amsterdam, and after that was also active in the flower wholesale sector, he did not know very much about plant cultivation before he started growing cannabis. "The first step is always the most difficult", Eddie reports, "for example, we wanted to grow and fertilize fully organically, this was clear and important right from the start. But at that time, there was no literature available in Holland about the use of fish emulsion and similar stuff for cannabis fertilization, so we were not sure about adequate fertilizer dosages. But following the motto 'better more than less', we gave far too many nutrients to the plants, and their leaves were heavily damaged. But mistakes like this you only make once, after that we got things going properly." When it came to area sizes, the motto 'the bigger, the better' proved successful to Eddie. He planted The Skunk Man's seeds, 10,000 per strain, in greenhouses that were up to 20,000 square metres.


http://www.****************/intervi...early-days-of-dutch-marijuana-breeding-4.html

If the link does not work then goto:
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iLiFE

 

[PeavillePride]

One of my buddys Uncles grows the real deal RKS outdoors for over 20 years.I have to send him to get an OZ for me every once in awhile.Its lime green ,huge budded and reeks.Not an orange hair to be found anywhere.Ive been wanting a cut forever,he only grows OD and not indoors.The stuff is always done the begining of Sept and its very ripe also. My Bro dont know i grow and i want to keep it chill,so im trying to think of away to approach.I mean,theres no doubt at all about the RKS factor,its the real deal .Should i say i just want to try n grow a plant on my land for shits n giggles n could he hook me with a cut?I dont think hes a clone horder ,just real p -noid,and its hard for me to ask without risking myself,BUT I LOVE THAT POT .Im gonna try.Im getting an OZ in acouple days just so i can post up some pix of it,and youll be able to smell it through the screen,lol..Peace,PVP

 

[Guest423]

Hey T2U, It sure would be nice to see some updated pictures of those plants. I heard from a special person. That there are some very nice Pheno's popping up. Do you care to share your info with us? lololol Great job, glad to see things are working out for you. You take care and lets hop Oct. You have some killer nugs to report back to us. Let's hope these plants stay on track.
Take care,
BG

what it is billy?

the males are history, i have pollen from them though but i can't get any updated pics on them since they are gone now.

but i can get some pics of the pre80 skunk girls i have outside within the next couple days since i'm making my way out there very soon to give them some nutes. i'm hoping i see signs of budding when i go check on them so they have time to ripen up by 1st week of oct....a few of my own crosses i made are already in full bloom and the rest of my strains are just starting to get little balls of hairs so lets hope these skunks trigger shortly.

here's a little info about these plants.

the seeds are from RKS buds, from back around 78-79, thats why i tagged the name pre80 skunk to them since they are skunks from before the 80's. i didn't want to throw the RKS tag on them until i actually see how they finish,smell,taste, ect...i've seen enough real skunk fakies in my day so i didn't want to be the cause of anymore. so for now they are pre80 skunk...we'll see if they are RKS shortly.

the buds were bought and not grown by the source of the beans so the father is unknown. so the father could be pre80 skunk or the father could be some other unknown strain...but 1 thing we do know forsure is the seeds came from rks buds.

the seeds are 28-29 yrs old and i was gifted 12 seeds, out of them 12 beans i actually managed to get 8 of them to germinate....i ended up with 4 girls and 4 females....1 male was culled because he was in the same container as a girl and he was lacking from the rest and was more of a sativa pheno which i'm not really interested in personally so he was culled for them reasons.

the little plants had it rough for the first few weeks, i don't know if that was from the age but they were a little slow at first but then they took off like rockets. most the phenos grew big nice indica leaves like a couple of the ones i showed...a few phenos u could tell were sativa dom.

the vigor was nice after they settled in, good growth, nice branching, started smelling very stanky after about 2 weeks of veg, they smelled like real skunk and burned tires. when i rub the stems they smell stronger then cheese, ecsd, tw, actually the stem rub is the strongest odor out of all my strains.

so i dunno i guess we have to wait and see how it all turns out. hope for the best i guess but won't know the truth until the end.


anything you'd like to add billy?

 

[Guest]

Morning T2U,

Nah, you pretty much summed it up. Only thing i've got to add. I did grow some out while in the 11th grade. Had them in my closet and they stunk up the whole house. Dad, knew what was up and had a nice talk with me. Dad is a cool old Nam dad. Told me to just put them out in the woods, so we didn't lost the house to the cops. Mother, didn't know what was stinking up the house. It was pretty funny for sure. Dad, wanted to see them and was in shock. From what i remember from that grow along time ago. The ones i had at the time. Tend to look like that fat leaf plant you posted. Dark color and fat leaf pattern. They had that strong skunk odar in veg and in bud form. Nasty shit for sure.

OH, before anyone starts sling shit. I've had these stashed away with some other seeds my uncle gave me, before he was forced out of the USA. This is about the same time I meet asshole in Adam in the summer of 85. Right when Greenhouse was getting started.

These seeds are REAL. Just didn't want to post about them because of flaming and mass pm's. I also, wanted someone to grow them out first and confirm so others wouldn't start sling shit and fighting. The only other person that has grown these out and is MIA. Is Capt Crip. He was the first one to get these and grow them out, but he had some germ issues. Since these seeds are so old. T2U, has came up with a nice method and higher percent. Congrat's T2u for your great job.

Well, that's pretty much it. Please, don't PM me for seeds. Yes, I still have a bunch. No, I will not mail anyone one else any. I have enough to do a large run for my own selection. I will do this. I'm going to get with Dutch and line up some freebies. The deal is this. Since everyone has been looking for a old skunk like this. I'm going to make my selection this winter. Once i do that. I will make a super large seed crop and mail out a shitload to Dutch to give out for FREE. That's my gift to everyone here. Since i can't share anymore at this time. There you have it. Please, no flaming or killing off this thread. If you have something to say or want to rip on me. Just pm me and you can flame on me or rip on me in private. Don't screw up this thread. please.

Thanks for your time T2U. Can't wait to see those girls. Everyone have a super weekend and take care.
Later,
BG

 

[Guest]

the rks was a staple in Corralitos late 70's when Sam was a local.........from sprout to bag it was ranky.............also the purp Haze pheno was a favorite in the Boulder Creek area.........all this in Santa Cruz county............wow.....were we spoiled or what................

lets hope GDW and T2U can bring back some memories.........
all the best.....................

 

[tiedye420]

GDW
& T2U
Thanks so much for getting to the heart of this skunk thing. I am setting up hydro indoor. I couldn't think of anything I would rather run than roadkill. I will be able to do my varieties of spices outdoors where they do best, and run a solid strain indoor to keep the bread and butter on the table...
I decided I wanted the roadkill, it has always worked best for my anxiety..
Now my jamaicans have a skunk smell though, and I'll still be trying new combinations of "test crosses" for the roadkill...
So count on a jamaicanx-g-13 test cross emerging soon as well.
I have a few ideas as to genepools which would combine into "golfballs", and like someone mentioned earlier- the mexican indicaxg-13 afghani might be promising as heck also..
If I hit the right combos, I'll be free with the information so someone can run larger numbers, and make her available in an f1 version.
Good luck with your angle, I'm sure your beans are real deal GDW, In fact the story even rings a bell- L.O.L.
We usually grew them outdoors, and they would go into flower in winter, at around 3 -4 weeks old....

 

[Guest]

Just trying to help out. These seeds have been sitting around for a very long time. I was happy that Capt Crip and T2U got them to even germ. I know Capt had some issues with some dieing off for some crazy reason. We where thinking the outter husk must have had some germs or something, because some nice and strong seedlings just up and died. As for T2U, I think he used some Na2O2 to kill off any fungi on the other seeds before germing, but i'm sure he will jump in and explain. I know T2U germing method was pretty good. Had a very good germ rate for the amount of age these seeds have. I'm just happy these seeds are getting a chance and will move forward very soon.

As for other seeds. I've also got some old Afghani and sometype of Red from the Shrimper's on the Bayou back in Middle 80's I think. Those will get a run, but not till sometime next summer. I'll renew those seeds and see what i see in the bunch. I've seen those grow while living in Louisiana. Pretty nice plants and large.

Well, I'm sure T2U will keep us posted on his plants. From what he's told me so far. He's got a couple of nice pheno's in male and females, so things are looking good. Atleast a lot better then some other seeds out there. Take care all and hope everyone had a nice weekend.
Later,
BG

 

[tiedye420]

GDW
The seeds germinating and dying off is typical of old beans, I have some old herijuana's (jack's heri BTW- really old) And those do the same thing...
Originally I thought- well they are damping off- must have some pathogen!
But on overgrow there was a thread called "uncle bens old bean soak" or something to the likes of it.
I can't be 100% positive, but it seems that there was just kelp and mollasses, Like a tablespoon of each in a gallon of water....
Might have a couple drops of superthrive as well, or at least it wouldn't hurt...
Here's why it works, and why it's nessesary for old beans...
In old seeds the carbohydrates are depleted, they break down with time- the vitamins and minerals as well are "diminished" in the composition of the seed itself. Law of physics- everything breaks down with age....
The seeds often are able to still pop up, but expend what energy they have doing it..
hence the mollasses to replace the carbs, and the kelp to replace the minerals/ vitamins....
This should be used as a germinating soak, and even to water/ fert with as the seeds are sprouting...
One tablespoon of mollasses, and one tablespoon of kelp ...
I'm thinking two drops of superthrive would be benificial as well..
But I haven't tried the thrive yet....
The "Old bean soak" does work though.

 

[ampersand]

The three seeds were long and thin, grayish-brown in color. Solowey soaked them in warm water, and then added gibberellic acid, a potent growth hormone used to induce germination in reluctant seeds. Next, she added a special rooting hormone for woody plants called T8 and an enzyme-rich fertilizer to supplement the natural food inside it. She then planted it in sterile potting soil on the Jewish festival of trees, which this year fell on Jan. 25.

2000 year old date sprouts

an extra deal of care when sprouting old seeds seems to help a lot

 

[Guest]

tiedye420, Very good post and i would have to agree. I read something about that also, but in Capt Crip case. I think all died off at once and I thought that was more then odd. I was thinking more along the lines of a fungi or path, but you could be 100% right.

Have you seen the post about tea bags? I've seen it at OG and other sites and even here. Someone was saying to use a old tea bag. Brew a normal cup of tea. They use that bag and make some water of some sorts. Use that water to germ the seeds. The tea bag does something to the seeds and I think it's along the lines you've stated. Very good post and i'm going to look more into it. I have some very old seeds in my stash and I want to make sure I get the very best germ rate and not have any of the spouts to die off. Thanks for sharing the info.


ampersand, Thanks for the link
take care all,
BG

 

[Guest]

This is a great thread, very informative. I have in my possession some very, very special skunk seeds from an unquestionable source, mid to late 80's stuff. So always a good read.

 

[ampersand]

on one of thoes 'episodes' of urbangrower one of the tips is to soak your seeds over night in a cup of 'dark tea' because of antioxidants and minerals... or something like that.

 

[Guest]

PvillePride- did ya hook up? got any pics?

 

[OG bub]

htc skunk ibl was the most "skunky" and probably the most stable skunk i grew that is over the market.....

Glad to hear.
and on that note. HTC Skunk IBL will be around again soon! BrotherMonk will be taking up the project with the HTC skunk breedstock. http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=66346

I imagine his residence will smell a bit more funky in the near future!
A woman I know quite well (not on the forums yet) is doing some testing of some sample I acquired not long ago. the smokes panned out to be more "pungent skunky" than anything Ive seen in a long time. She is working thru a decent sized batch to select for two specific traits: Stink, and Potency.
incrosses are currently in the works in her garden.
She is a bit shy about the "forums" and asked me if Id coordinate the handouts... so we will see about finding some testers for these. but please dont flood my PM box because I prolly wont even be the one handing them out... might get Dutchgrown to handle that.
Ive bumped a few folks off the "testers" list recently.. and Im constantly browsing the forums for the next few folks with potential.

glad to see some progression from other folks here in the thread. its a long time coming.. kinda reminds me of a search for an old friend ya just cant seem to track down..
all in time..

Peace folks, and enjoy the grows!
bub & HTC.

 

[Rootstyle]

glad to hear bub. Hopefully we all can get some of these beans one day and start the search.

 

[happyherb]

sounds good bub...lucky potential testers ;0 .HH. =]-~

 

[Triceratops]

Outstanding news Bub! Very interested to hear how the results turn out on these gals...

Been looking quite a while for a decent representation of skunk and once again, I am still searching high and low only to end up disappointed each and every time.

I want something so strong smelling of SKUNK it will finally make me turn on the carbon filtration again. Until then, i am just living on old thoughts and memories.

Peace and good grows, Tric