The Original O'l Farts Club.

[Travis Kelcee]

IMHO all electric cars are a fad and in 10 years they will be a collector item only…

Once energy storage technology advances past batteries, EV's will become the preferred method of transportation.

 

[Gray Wolf]

IMHO all electric cars are a fad and in 10 years they will be a collector item only…

I suggest that saying "all" electric cars is inappropriate because we've been driving an EV as a town car for the last nine years and are deeply impressed.

I question the assumption that it has to be either or, as their appear to be good applications for both.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Hee, hee, hee, starting the brisket for our traditional corned beef and cabbage St. Paddy Days feast.

 

[Dime]

For the time they have unsuccessfully been fn around with EV's they could have put that effort into the ICE efficiency and hybrids and been way ahead but in the end it is about making money and pollution always takes a back seat

 

[Dime]

I suggest that saying "all" electric cars is inappropriate because we've been driving an EV as a town car for the last nine years and are deeply impressed.

I question the assumption that it has to be either or, as their appear to be good applications for both.

Yes choices, where I live I can't buy an EV,it's freezing in the winter, towns are 1/2 hr drive apart and I need to tow and use it for work, I'd need spares while one is charging

 

[Dime]

Not everyone lives in the city or works close to home,they make sense for those who do

 

[Putembk]

I suggest that saying "all" electric cars is inappropriate because we've been driving an EV as a town car for the last nine years and are deeply impressed.

I question the assumption that it has to be either or, as their appear to be good applications for both.

Like I said a collector item. You have created a nitch market and there is a place for that. Once all these 24 month leases expire and the market crashes because of short sided liberal thinking. I would like to have an electric run about if I could steal it.

Supply versus demand determines the value of anything and with all of these lease returns coming due at the same time you should be able to steal one on the secondary market.

 

[Gray Wolf]

Yes choices, where I live I can't buy an EV,it's freezing in the winter, towns are 1/2 hr drive apart and I need to tow and use it for work, I'd need spares while one is charging

We have an EV and a Jeep for applications where the EV is inappropriate or we need two vehicles.

As we are retired and most of our driving is in town, we put less than a thousand miles a year on the Jeep, most of them because we needed both cars due to schedules.

 

[Putembk]

If I do get one it will never see the highway and I will charge it in the driveway not the garage.

 

[Countryboy]

Evening folks! Got some piddling done. Need to get a fuel filter for a lawn mower.

Chili dogs for dinner.

peace

 

[Gray Wolf]

Like I said a collector item. You have created a nitch market and there is a place for that. Once all these 24 month leases expire and the market crashes because of short sided liberal thinking. I would like to have an electric run about if I could steal it.

Supply versus demand determines the value of anything and with all of these lease returns coming due at the same time you should be able to steal one on the secondary market.

Which of course is what I did nine years ago when I purchased our 2013 Ford Focus EV as a lease return for $12K, which was the approximate cost to replace the batteries.

Nine years later, I still have the same battery and maintenance cost has been a horn replacement, as well as two tire rotations and one replacement set.

No oil changes nor waiting in line at gas stations. Because of the dynamic brakes, it still has 80% of the original brake pads left at around 60K miles.

Electric costs are about 25% of fuel costs for the vehicle it replaced.

 

[Travis Kelcee]

Which of course is what I did nine years ago when I purchased our 2013 Ford Focus EV as a lease return for $12K, which was the approximate cost to replace the batteries.

Nine years later, I still have the same battery and maintenance cost has been a horn replacement, as well as two tire rotations and one replacement set.

No oil changes nor waiting in line at gas stations. Because of the dynamic brakes, it still has 80% of the original brake pads left at around 60K miles.

Electric costs are about 25% of fuel costs for the vehicle it replaced.

Now imagine something like a solid state battery with a 1200 mile the range and the ability to recharge in 10 minutes and no risk of thermal runaway (fires)

 

[Putembk]

I think you are lucky with the life span of the battery….won’t be so cheap when a replacement is necessary. Then you have to annualize the cost. You did well….

 

[Unca Walt]

Now imagine something like a solid state battery with a 1200 mile the range and the ability to recharge in 10 minutes and no risk of thermal runaway (fires)

That's when EV tech would be developed fully.

 

[oldmaninbc]

I think you are lucky with the life span of the battery….won’t be so cheap when a replacement is necessary. Then you have to annualize the cost. You did well….

The future is not so easily predicted, it will be interesting to see which developments in transportation will dominate. Will that Beta or VHS and now neither of them.

Hi Mr. Pute

 

[FTL]

I don't think it is stronger, i think unseeded hits harder but I believe it's not as complete in effects .

I agree with this ^^^^
How would you like to die a virgin?
You miss the meaning of life ..... to create life is to fulfill your biological destiny. Plants are no different they need orgasms to be happy too

 

[Travis Kelcee]

That's when EV tech would be developed fully.

The vehicles are fine it's the energy storage technology that's over 100 years old.

 

[pop_rocks]

Now imagine something like a solid state battery with a 1200 mile the range and the ability to recharge in 10 minutes and no risk of thermal runaway (fires)

this is next gen thinking


evs are weak sauce


and wtf up with people vandalizing them now? this is why we cant have nice things

 

[oldmaninbc]

I'm looking forward to potato soup tonight and a chunk of bread.

 

[pop_rocks]

The vehicles are fine it's the energy storage technology that's over 100 years old.

just like with the gasoline engine, sometimes people are very resistant to any kind of change