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I don't think the export of weed from Oregon is the prime mover behind this bill. I think it comes from the "legit" weed industry in Oregon not wanting "homegrown" competition.
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OregonBorn
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I believe it will be the same bar coding and reporting like rec weed growers. No different. Yes, it is pretty major. This will also make it really easy for the feds to shut everything down if they decide to. The FBI is already pushing for no CCW permits for MMP card holders.
As is happening in Cali, Oregon will no have much of a medical MJ program any more.
OregonBorn
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From what I read and see, it is coming more from the OHA not wanting to deal with medical MJ any more, and offloading the OMMP to the OLCC. This is another step in that direction. I also believe that there is a pervading opinion that Southern Oregon is still supplying and exporting a lot of black market weed. So this is an added attempt to clamp down on the commercial size medical growers there. Like it or not, SoOr and NorCal have a huge reputation issue to overcome when it comes to black market weed supply. These laws have no impact on 'homegrows' of either rec or OMMP weed.
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Best Days in May 2017
Below are the best days for activities, based on the Moon’s sign and phase in May.
For Planting:
Aboveground crops: 1, 27, 28
Belowground crops: 19, 20
For Setting Eggs:
6, 7, 15–17
For Fishing:
1–10, 25–31
Below are the best days for activities, based on the Moon’s sign and phase in May.
For Planting:
Aboveground crops: 1, 27, 28
Belowground crops: 19, 20
For Setting Eggs:
6, 7, 15–17
For Fishing:
1–10, 25–31
Hey everyone, It's been a while hope you all are ready for a good Summer.
So any idea when that bill goes into effect once she signs it? What ever happened to "Medical won't be changed" remember that?
So what I gathered on that Bill is that if you grow your own meds at your home you're exempt. If you are currently having to pay $200 per card you're in the new system?
So any idea when that bill goes into effect once she signs it? What ever happened to "Medical won't be changed" remember that?
So what I gathered on that Bill is that if you grow your own meds at your home you're exempt. If you are currently having to pay $200 per card you're in the new system?
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Yes and you're allowed to sell up too 25% of your harvest to shops. This is a new law. Happy growing and stay safe all.
Still have some questions on the new law. Does that go into effect on passage? How long will the roll out take? So does this allow med growers to sell into the market even if they're in a banned county?
If they really intended it to benefit both the Patient and the Grower they'd allow 50% of harvest to go to market. I feel bad for the patients, I hope other growers pick them up. Certainly they'll still want at least $200 per card.
If they really intended it to benefit both the Patient and the Grower they'd allow 50% of harvest to go to market. I feel bad for the patients, I hope other growers pick them up. Certainly they'll still want at least $200 per card.
have any of you guys heard of senate bill 306? https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/SB306/Introduced
I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding this or not... but are they purposing to get rid of medical completely, or just shift authority to olcc?
I'm not sure if I'm misunderstanding this or not... but are they purposing to get rid of medical completely, or just shift authority to olcc?
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Oregon Releases New Cannabis Testing and Labeling Rules
Oregon Releases New Cannabis Testing and Labeling Rules
May 25, 2017—Oregon Health Authority (OHA) released the revised cannabis testing and labeling rules that will go into effect on May 31, 2017. They did not make any changes in the pesticide testing requirement of concentrates or percent of flower samples as had been proposed in March.
Also, they will not allow the combination of separate batches for testing as was proposed. The will allow remediation of products that test positive for two particular compounds—piperonyl butoxide or pyrethrins—which are legal for use but which have shown above the allowable limits regularly in testing. They will also increase the maximum batch size from 10 pounds to 15 pounds. Other changes are also included and summarized in a 6-page bulletin released late today.
Substantial changes in the recreational testing were proposed and opened to public comment for 6 weeks, ending April 30. The proposed changes OHA submitted were met with a huge and very one-sided response from consumers, businesses, and growers that strongly favored leaving the testing rules unchanged. By the cutoff date, they received roughly 3,900 responses and over 98% supported no change in the rules.
Oregon’s testing standards for cannabis are the strongest in the nation and require a comprehensive pesticide screen, testing for THC and CBD levels, and a number of other tests to ensure quality and safety in cannabis products.
Early this year, a number of very vocal cannabis processors complained that the testing standards were driving up testing costs and creating a shortage of concentrates on dispensary shelves. But, by the time the new rulemaking period came around, the shortage had all but ended as laboratories caught up on their backlog. However, the proponents of changing the rules continued to push and even accused the labs of intentionally driving up costs by making the rules overly strict.
The Rules Advisory Committee for testing that was created to hammer out new testing rules spent weeks working on possible changes, but many on the committee were surprised during the final meeting to see the drastic proposal from the OHA.
“These [proposed] changes were introduced at the RAC,” Roger Voelker of OG Analytical and a member of the RAC explained to OCC in March. “We thought we were going to be talking about some of the problems concerning edibles and batch sizes and addressing a wider scope of issues but they brought these changes, to our surprise.”
The most glaring problem with their proposed rule change on pesticide testing was the removal of batch testing on concentrate products in lieu of a single annual test of a random sample from processors. This is antithetical to the severe contamination problem that exists with concentrates, which showed a minimum of 26% failure rate due to pesticide levels. Luckily, that provision was not adopted.
“These draft rules are absolutely 180 degrees the wrong direction for health and public safety in Oregon,” explained Caleb Hayes of Oregonians for Public Health and Safety in March. “But Also, these rules are also 180 degrees the wrong direction for the cannabis industry in Oregon. This is going to lead to news stories of contaminated cannabis in the market, and that will have a chilling effect on our economy in the cannabis space.”
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Oregon Releases New Cannabis Testing and Labeling Rules
May 25, 2017—Oregon Health Authority (OHA) released the revised cannabis testing and labeling rules that will go into effect on May 31, 2017. They did not make any changes in the pesticide testing requirement of concentrates or percent of flower samples as had been proposed in March.
Also, they will not allow the combination of separate batches for testing as was proposed. The will allow remediation of products that test positive for two particular compounds—piperonyl butoxide or pyrethrins—which are legal for use but which have shown above the allowable limits regularly in testing. They will also increase the maximum batch size from 10 pounds to 15 pounds. Other changes are also included and summarized in a 6-page bulletin released late today.
Substantial changes in the recreational testing were proposed and opened to public comment for 6 weeks, ending April 30. The proposed changes OHA submitted were met with a huge and very one-sided response from consumers, businesses, and growers that strongly favored leaving the testing rules unchanged. By the cutoff date, they received roughly 3,900 responses and over 98% supported no change in the rules.
Oregon’s testing standards for cannabis are the strongest in the nation and require a comprehensive pesticide screen, testing for THC and CBD levels, and a number of other tests to ensure quality and safety in cannabis products.
Early this year, a number of very vocal cannabis processors complained that the testing standards were driving up testing costs and creating a shortage of concentrates on dispensary shelves. But, by the time the new rulemaking period came around, the shortage had all but ended as laboratories caught up on their backlog. However, the proponents of changing the rules continued to push and even accused the labs of intentionally driving up costs by making the rules overly strict.
The Rules Advisory Committee for testing that was created to hammer out new testing rules spent weeks working on possible changes, but many on the committee were surprised during the final meeting to see the drastic proposal from the OHA.
“These [proposed] changes were introduced at the RAC,” Roger Voelker of OG Analytical and a member of the RAC explained to OCC in March. “We thought we were going to be talking about some of the problems concerning edibles and batch sizes and addressing a wider scope of issues but they brought these changes, to our surprise.”
The most glaring problem with their proposed rule change on pesticide testing was the removal of batch testing on concentrate products in lieu of a single annual test of a random sample from processors. This is antithetical to the severe contamination problem that exists with concentrates, which showed a minimum of 26% failure rate due to pesticide levels. Luckily, that provision was not adopted.
“These draft rules are absolutely 180 degrees the wrong direction for health and public safety in Oregon,” explained Caleb Hayes of Oregonians for Public Health and Safety in March. “But Also, these rules are also 180 degrees the wrong direction for the cannabis industry in Oregon. This is going to lead to news stories of contaminated cannabis in the market, and that will have a chilling effect on our economy in the cannabis space.”
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ANY report of contamination is damnation to the industry.
Small and big growers alike need to step up and show they can provide potent and safe products.
or the right to do so will be taken away.
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Big business is waiting for the chance to say 'they' can provide a better product..
... I want to see the small time grower have the opportunity to prove them wrong
Small and big growers alike need to step up and show they can provide potent and safe products.
or the right to do so will be taken away.
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Big business is waiting for the chance to say 'they' can provide a better product..
... I want to see the small time grower have the opportunity to prove them wrong
Has anyone gone through the Micro Canopy permit process?
Is it any easier than one of the larger permits?
Wondering if it's feasible for a small timer such as myself or if I've already missed the boat.
Is it any easier than one of the larger permits?
Wondering if it's feasible for a small timer such as myself or if I've already missed the boat.
OregonBorn
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Which law? In Senate Bill 306, if it passes and is signed by the governor, the laws go into effect June 30, 2018.
$200 per OMMP grow card, unless you are on the OHP and then it is $50. For vets it is $20 I think. $200 to grow for someone else on OMMP as well. As of last summer there is no limit on clones, only mature flowering plants. Now and under SB 306 the limit is 2 grow cards and 12 plants inside city limits and zoned residential, o/w 8 grow cards for 48 plants. There are some exceptions to this if you had grow cards before 2015.
Banned opt-out county laws only applies to rec weed growing, selling and processing. The only county that I am aware of that has also banned commercial medical growing for sale is Douglas County. They also banned rec weed. But that only applies to county lands, and not within any city limits.
OregonBorn
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Micro tier I/II is the same process as Full tier I/II, with some exceptions for conversion from being a medical grower before 2015 in which case you do not need a land use compatability statement. You did not miss any big boats here.
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Thanks OB.
Yep thanks OB great report. However I do have a friend that is on OHP and he grows for other patients. He had also heard of that reduced price grower card. When he contacted OMMP they said, "No, $200 per card when growing for others period, No OHP discount for growers." He mentioned to them that he is in a Rec Banned County and unable to sell to the rec marked to make up the costs, they told him, "too bad." He will likely do what I did and get rid of his Patients and grow only for himself. Rec Wins again, and Patients suffer.
That's so important not to lose sight of the Suffering Patients under all these changes. I had Real Patients with Real Pain. Between He and myself that will be 7 Patients who do not have meds. "Don't worry, Medical will not be touched." Remember that?
That's so important not to lose sight of the Suffering Patients under all these changes. I had Real Patients with Real Pain. Between He and myself that will be 7 Patients who do not have meds. "Don't worry, Medical will not be touched." Remember that?
"Banned opt-out county laws only applies to rec weed growing, selling and processing. The only county that I am aware of that has also banned commercial medical growing for sale is Douglas County. They also banned rec weed. But that only applies to county lands, and not within any city limits."
Question on that, If you're in a banned rec county then even under this new Medical law you will still not be able to sell into the Rec Market, even though you are on seed to sale tracking and inspections under OLCC?
My understanding is the new Law moves growers who are currently paying $200 per grower card into the OLCC system.
Question on that, If you're in a banned rec county then even under this new Medical law you will still not be able to sell into the Rec Market, even though you are on seed to sale tracking and inspections under OLCC?
My understanding is the new Law moves growers who are currently paying $200 per grower card into the OLCC system.
OregonBorn
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Sorry for my wording. For clarity as you say, the discounts I listed above only apply to OMMP cards for growing your own, not for anyone else. If you grow for someone else, its $200 per card per year. This new law does not cover OMMP fees, and they will remain under the OHA to set and collect. They may phase that out in time as well, and force everyone into the 4 plant rec limit. Then all a card will get you is tax-free weed at a rec store and higher possession limits.
In the end I believe that this bill will just bolster the black market as med growers in Southern Oregon are forced out of business and flip back to growing under the radar. California state, counties and cities are taxing commercial growers there insanely high. I believe that the medical growers there (that are also being forced out of business like here if they do not go rec) will simply revert to supply the black market. Legal weed in California will be so high priced that the black market will be lucrative. It all a cash business any way that you do it, so WTF.
OregonBorn
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While local opt-out counties will no longer have OHA commercial medical retailers, the opt-in counties will still have OLCC license holders that can purchase that weed. As I read it, you will be able to sell a % of medical OMMP card weed grown for others into the rec market to help recover costs. Sales of medical grown weed have to be to be to an OLCC licensed distributor, processor or retail seller.
While the OLCC tracking systems will be required for OMMP grows for other card holders and any weed sold onto the rec system, the tracking information goes to OHA and not OLCC. The OLCC can request that information from the OHA at any time. OHA will still manage all OMMP card growing, but if you are growing medical for sale or for someone else, you will have to also register with the OLCC. OLCC standards for inventory will replace the current OHA monthly online and manual reporting system if you grow for someone else or sell any excess weed. Also all bar coding, tracking, labeling, packaging, and testing will be up to the same standard set by the OLCC. Meaning all rec weed will all be the same regardless of the source, so the transfer from an OMMP grower to an OLCC rec license holder will be seamless. It actually makes sense from that perspective.
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PDX Dopesmoker
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I don't understand the login in maintaining the genetically crippling plant count system for OMMP growers if they're going to be tracked seed to sale anyway. I'd much rather grow 120 6' plants than a dozen 12' plants even though the 12 big ones harvest more. If its all going to be on seed to sale I don't see the difference, they should just assign a square footage like they do for all other growers.
