The Oregon Weed Thread -Grows, News and Laws and Whatever

[Dankwolf]

Fully agree that every one is crossing everything to every thing with out concern just to creat the next superunicorndream og lol . i did not aay the Durban was bad it was above average and the best part not a hint of marketed terps like og .

Its funny i would not be classified as a breeder but when i do it is planed and most of the time takes years to find the right plant for a project . i like unique terp profiles and complex highs as in varying effects over a period of time that complement each other in a way that the effects are strong but at the right times and fade in a way you for got to smoke more lol.

 

[Dankwolf]

I am out of the sales side of thing so i dont care waht any one pays or does not pay honestly . i gave the up sales when med pot was legalized in oregon . margins went from profitable with enough for toys to i need a second job lol.

I even applied for a triming job here in central oregon and got denied for there 12 dollar an hour opening lol . i was kind of relived honestly the hole place smelled of spicy haze/hard core mex brick weed/with a shitty og undertone dont know if i could of took it any way .

Few belive me but when i say strains of 15+ years ago were so much better then every joe blow crossing every fake cut that they can find to creat the next big hit and to only find out that they ended up pushing undersome one else work just to get rid of it . vary few of the end users/ customer have clue . if you dont belive me test the theroy i have many time s and the out come is usually watching puffi n tuff with c grade that is so full of who knows what that it burns you eyes like tear gas and leaves your lungs and throat sore .i keep telling them if that is what they like they could just smoke some lawn clipping s and pine cones and get that effect .

 

[Robrites]

Oregon remains a top source for black market pot, state police report says

Oregon remains a top source for black market pot, state police report says

Marijuana legalization has done little to change Oregon's longstanding reputation as a leading black market exporter of premium cannabis, state police say in a new analysis obtained by The Oregonian/OregonLive.

The report offers an unvarnished view of both legal and illegal marijuana production in Oregon at a time of uncertainty for marijuana policy nationally.

It found that Oregon has an "expansive geographic footprint" on the black market across the country. A half-dozen counties -- Jackson, Multnomah, Josephine, Lane, Deschutes and Washington -- "lead the way" in supplying much of what's shipped out of state, the analysis said.

The report's other key takeaways: Overall marijuana production in Oregon far outpaces demand, hash oil manufacturing has fueled a rise in explosions and serious injuries and the state doesn't comply with key federal marijuana enforcement priorities.

But the report - done by the agency's drug enforcement section with a January time stamp - zeroed in on Oregon's role in the lucrative black market and said the state must address the problem.

The Oregonian/OregonLive made multiple requests for the document, but the agency didn't release it. Capt. Bill Fugate, state police spokesman, said Saturday that this version is a draft that the agency planned to refine.

Though the 39-page report includes extensive footnotes and charts illustrating the findings, Fugate said in an email that "many sources and data are not sufficient for the product we wanted."

A representative from Gov. Kate Brown's office couldn't immediately be reached for comment.

Analysts identified Portland, Eugene, Medford and Grants Pass as cities with the "greatest level of connection" to black market destinations, which include Illinois, Minnesota, New York, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Idaho. None of those states have recreational marijuana laws.

"The illicit exportation of cannabis must be stemmed as it undermines the spirit of the law and the integrity of the legal market," the report states. "It steals economic power from the market, the government, and the citizens of Oregon, and furnishes it to criminals, thereby tarnishing state compliance efforts."

Black market trafficking is a significant concern for states with legal marijuana laws. The federal government has made it clear that cracking down on the illicit market should be a priority for state regulators.

Under President Barack Obama, the U.S. Department of Justice issued guidelines for states with legal cannabis. In general, the Cole memo as it is known said the government would tolerate recreational and medical marijuana policies provided states develop robust regulations targeting illegal activity.

The guidelines have served as a roadmap for states as they craft regulations for recreational marijuana, which in Oregon generates an estimated $3 million a week in sales.

The current U.S. attorney general, Jeff Sessions, this week said marijuana is "only slightly less awful" than heroin, but he also called the Cole memo "valid."

According to state police, Oregon falls short of complying with the memo. In addition to creating a legal market for cannabis production, legalization has "provided an effective means to launder cannabis products and proceeds, where in essence, actors can exploit legal mechanisms to obscure products' origin and conceal true profits, thereby blurring the boundaries of the legal market and complicating enforcement efforts," the report says.

State police, analyzing Oregon's recreational and medical production capacity, figure that the state could potentially produce a surplus of cannabis with an estimated street value between $4.7 billion and $9.4 billion.

Senate Majority Leader Ginny Burdick, co-chair of the joint legislative committee overseeing marijuana implementation, said medical marijuana growers are a chief source of black market cannabis leaving the state. She said she's confident that tight regulation of the recreational marijuana program is keeping it from leaking out of the system.

Burdick said she hopes the prospect of making money legally is enough to draw some of the thousands of medical growers in the state into the recreational system.

"As the market shakes out and as people gravitate toward the regulated recreational market, I think you will see some of these issues get better, but in southern Oregon there is a lot of marijuana grown and no law enforcement to speak of," Burdick said.

Oregon is hardly alone among legal marijuana states with black market woes. Yet state police analysts found that as of 2016, Oregon exported cannabis to the black market at a rate twice that of Washington, home to medical and recreational marijuana programs.

"This provides a strong indication that surplus cannabis is not discarded but is in fact trafficked out of state and sold for a huge profit margin," the report notes.

In 2014, Oregon legalized marijuana for recreational use and rolled out sales in phases starting in late 2015. The recreational marijuana program is regulated by the liquor control commission, which like Colorado and Washington, has a seed-to-sale tracking system intended to crack down on the black market.

The state police report relies on data collected before the state began implementing its marijuana tracking system last fall.

Oregon lawmakers have grappled with how to address the nearly 20-year-old medical marijuana program, with a long history of loose regulation that has made it ripe for exploitation.

During this year's legislative session, lawmakers considered folding key elements of the medical program into the recreational one, but Burdick said that idea is now on hold to allow more time to work out details. Such a merger, proponents argued, would give medical producers a legal outlet for products that might otherwise end up on the illegal market.

The state police report also raises alarms about the proliferation of butane hash oil manufacturing, calling hash oil production "the most immediate cannabis threat" facing Oregon.

Explosions at these facilities, which produce sought-after hash oil for the regulated and black markets, sent at least 30 people to the Oregon Burn Center between July 2015 and July 2016 alone.

Patients burned in hash oil explosions are typically young men who end up severely injured, requiring lengthy treatment and hospital stays.

State police, citing data from the burn center, report that Medicare and Medicaid covered the bulk of the medical costs. Combined, the government programs paid out $7.6 million for medical care for hash oil burn victims between 2013 and 2016.

It's not just the recreational and medical markets that drive demand for hash oil, but also the prospect of big profits from illegal sales on the East Coast, state police say.

"These substances are particularly suitable for out-of-state smuggling, since concentrates can be virtually odorless, unlike plant material, and are more easily concealed," the report notes.

The report's recommendations include ongoing monitoring and analysis of the state's marijuana regulation and enforcement efforts, as well as staff to collect and distribute information about how well the state meets federal marijuana priorities.

Though the report offers a sober look at the state of the black market in the era of legal cannabis, it makes clear that police aren't able to keep up.

"Law enforcement," it concludes, "is unable to keep pace with out-of-state cannabis diversion."

http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2017/03/oregon_a_top_source_for_black.html

 

[Robrites]

Oregon Liquor Control Commission Issues Marijuana Recall

Oregon Liquor Control Commission Issues Marijuana Recall

Oregon Liquor Control Commission Issues Marijuana Recall:

Portland, Oregon – The Oregon Liquor Control Commission is issuing an immediate health and safety advisory due to the identification of potentially unsafe pesticide residue on retail plant material produced from marijuana cultivated by Emerald Wave Estate, LLC.

The affected marijuana failed a pesticide test for pyrethrins exceeding the Oregon Health Authority action level for this class of pesticide.

Affected products include marijuana flower; the retailer that sold the product has issued a voluntary recall. The marijuana flower was sold at Buds 4 U LLC located at 10692 Highway 126, Suite 4, Mapleton, Oregon.

A wholesaler transferred the product to the retailer before the pesticide results were recorded in the OLCC Cannabis Tracking System (CTS). Buds 4 U sold 82.5 grams to 31 customers between March 8 and March 10, 2017. The retailer noticed the failed pesticide results in the CTS on March 10, 2017 and immediately contacted the OLCC.

The affected marijuana should bear a label that includes one of the following OLCC License numbers:

050-1002850B56E

060-100301304FE

050-1002850B56E

and any of the following package numbers:

1A4010300005B05000000772 – product name: Blue Magoo

1A4010300005B05000000769 – product name: Blue Magoo

1A4010300005911000000005 – product name: Blue Magoo

The remainder of the affected nine pound batch of marijuana flower has been placed on administrative hold, meaning it cannot be lawfully transferred, pending the outcome of an additional pesticide retest. Consumers who have these recalled products should dispose of the products or return them to the retailer where they were purchased.

There have been no reports of illness. The possible health impact of consuming marijuana products with unapproved pesticide residues is unknown. Short and long-term health impacts may exist depending on the specific product, duration, frequency, level of exposure, and route of exposure. Consumers with concerns about their personal health should contact their physician with related questions.

Consumers with questions or concerns about recalled product or pesticide residues in marijuana products are encouraged to contact the product retailer and/or the Oregon Poison Center at 800-222-1222.

For More Information: www.marijuana.oregon.gov
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 503-872-5000 Toll Free: 800-452-6522

 

[Aota1]

That grower sounded familiar to me and, sure enough, the same distribution co. tried to sell me that blue magoo. Luckily, i don't work with them after a lot of red flags were showing.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

I still have a little Durban left over that i was gifted the . hits hard right away but lacks complexity and i dont care for the licorice/slight musky smell and tast like licorice / slight hashy. Looks to be indica style buds on a sativa style structure .

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I had some Durban that had been in the jar for 8 months, it tasted great. That flavor on the fresher stuff mellows nicely and turns into a sort of black tea & dried fruit flavor which is quite pleasing.

 

[Big Sur]

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Few belive me but when i say strains of 15+ years ago were so much better then every joe blow crossing every fake cut that they can find to creat the next big hit and to only find out that they ended up pushing undersome one else work just to get rid of it .

Agreed. I have had this same conversation lately with several growers in Europe and a few here in the west US and Hawaii. Seed companies are offering more watered down versions of original strains these days, as the genetics fade in subsequent generations. Cannabis naturally does that over time. Or they cross them with other strains to revitalize them, which with this latest trend to re-re-re-cross new strains is dumping OG Kush, Haze and a few other overcrossed genetics into every new strain out there. With the one exception of GDP, I have not found any new strains that beat the heirloom strains of the 1990s. Actually the only finds I have made lately are GDP and Durban Poison. My Euro buddies say that there is an old high potency Durban cut circulating in California, and that may well be what I got on sale last week.

 

[Big Sur]

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I saw a dispensary selling seeded bud too. Deanz has seeds for $13/eighth

I had some Durban that had been in the jar for 8 months, it tasted great. That flavor on the fresher stuff mellows nicely and turns into a sort of black tea & dried fruit flavor which is quite pleasing.

Oh and a big THANK YOU for this tip about Deanz! It has led to me getting some original Durban seeds from ZA, and these crossed Durban seeds virtually for free. And 2.5 grams of cheap good smoke. The new effect is wearing off, but man, I love this ZA/Thai stuff. Its old school.

 

[Big Sur]

Oregon Liquor Control Commission Issues Marijuana Recall:

The flip side of Nixon's personal crusade to kill us all off with paraquat in the 1970s. I had a bag of that yellow weed, sent in a test sample, and sure enough, it was positive for paraquat. Now they say that some residue was over the limit?

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[Sluicebox]

Are you all getting your holes dug yet? Fruit trees are getting buds on them here in the Valley, some just started popping leaves. I'm assuming we all still get our 4 per Household. Hopefully that won't change anytime soon.

 

[Robrites]

Are you all getting your holes dug yet? Fruit trees are getting buds on them here in the Valley, some just started popping leaves. I'm assuming we all still get our 4 per Household. Hopefully that won't change anytime soon.

In between rain showers... Sunny and 69 here today.

 

[Big Sur]

Are you all getting your holes dug yet? Fruit trees are getting buds on them here in the Valley, some just started popping leaves. I'm assuming we all still get our 4 per Household. Hopefully that won't change anytime soon.

Yes, 4 plants per address/household. Or 6 per OMMP grow card, limit if 2 grow cards if zoned residential inside city limits. Limit of 8 grow cards outside city limits or residential zoning. However, the OHA will likely want to inspect your grow if you have over 12 plants as of this year. It also gets far more complex now if you grow OMMP for others, or sell medical to dispensaries. Inventory, testing, packaging, labeling, etc. etc.

I start my seeds indoors on heat mats this time of year. Or size up clones, but I did not grow any clones this winter. Too iffy with outdoor temps to move anything outdoors here yet, as it was below freezing in the PDX area last week. I just finished pruning my apple trees here. Its a later spring this year. I still need to clean and repair the greenhouse covers, and get them on in the next week or so. I pull them off of the frames in winter to avoid snow loading damage. I had a lot of snow here this winter. Now... its flooding! 12" of rain so far this March, after 14" in February. Record wet.

 

[Robrites]

Digging holes and packing dirt this morning...and here comes the rain.

 

[Robrites]

Oregon May Declare Emergency Over Jeff Sessions’ Marijuana Threats

Oregon May Declare Emergency Over Jeff Sessions’ Marijuana Threats

Oregon isn’t taking a “wait and see” approach to the mixed messages coming out of the White House on marijuana — the state is taking direct action to protect the private information of its medical cannabis patients and adult use consumers.
Oregon has moved closer to shielding consumers in its adult use and medical markets from the threat of federal enforcement and is considering declaring an emergency due to that threat.
Senate Bill 863, which passed on earlier in the week, would prohibit cannabis retailers from recording, retaining and transferring type of information that is contained on passport, driver license, military identification card or other ID that bears picture of person. It would also create exceptions for retailers, who, with the consumer’s permission, want to collect data for marketing programs.
Collecting this sort of data is common practice, typically at dispensaries across the nation, never mind Oregon. But for the sake of protecting consumers, SB 863 requires marijuana retailers to destroy the type of information covered within 30 days of Governor Kate Brown signing off on the bill.
While all admirable goals with the current climate, the most surprising part of bill was Section 4, which stated on passage of the bill that Oregon would declare an emergency in the face of threats of federal enforcement from Attorney General Jeff Sessions.
Oregon cannabiz expert, Sam Chapman, runs a Portland based firm focused on advising entrepreneurs and investors in the cannabis industry — New Economy Consulting. In 2013 Chapman co-authored House Bill 3460, the Oregon law that legalized medical pot dispensaries. He currently serves on the Oregon Liquor Control Commission Business Rules Advisory Committee and the City of Portland Marijuana Task Force.
We reached out to Chapman for his take on the bill.
“It was an immediate knee jerk reaction to some of the newer quasi-confusing statements that came from Jeff Sessions,” he said. “I think outside of just wanting to protect general adult use consumers, there was a concern to protect patients information as well.”
Chapman did note his doubts on whether the feds would target consumers, and added that, on the medical side, patient card numbers still go through the full process as required by the Oregon Health Authority, “so it’s not bulletproof.”
Chapman said he hopes that other bills in the Oregon legislature will get the same fast track treatment that SB 863 has enjoyed.
“It’s further along than any other bill and it just got introduced last week (March 7),” he said with a laugh. “That’s just life I guess.”
One of Chapman’s clients was concerned about the effect the bill would have on their ability to do online marketing — despite the protections being included for those who wish to do it in a straightforward way — and wanted to hire Chapman to push back against the bill,
“I was like, ‘We’ve got bigger battles to worry about — find someone else,” Chapman said. “It’s going to pass unanimously. You couldn’t pay me any amount of money to testify against that bill.”
Mason Tvert, director of communications at The Marijuana Policy Project, said things are still hazy around the administration’s intentions, but it’s always good to be prepared.
“It is still unclear whether the new administration intends to interfere with laws such as Oregon’s, but it certainly does not hurt to adopt such a measure,” he said. “In either case, it sends a pretty clear message that lawmakers do not want the federal government messing with their state’s cannabis laws or with the citizens who comply with them… understandably, they prefer adults purchase weed from these tightly regulated businesses rather than reverting back to a potentially dangerous underground market.”
Justin Strekal, political director for NORML, pointed out that consumers of other markets never having to deal with this kind of thing period.
“Given Attorney General Jeff Sessions militant prohibitionist background and the false claims he has been making about pot recently, the concerns regarding the privacy of cannabis consumers in Oregon is justified,” he said. “Nowhere in this nation catalogues the purchase of cigarettes or tobacco, so why should adult-use marijuana be any different?”

 

[Sluicebox]

That's nice but I still had a Military Chopper hover low over my house for a few minutes the other day. So what about the Growers, med/rec? They might leave the consumer alone for now, uneasy about the other.

Digging holes and packing dirt is just a modern form of the Rain Dance.

 

[Robrites]

That's nice but I still had a Military Chopper hover low over my house for a few minutes the other day. So what about the Growers, med/rec? They might leave the consumer alone for now, uneasy about the other.

Digging holes and packing dirt is just a modern form of the Rain Dance.

I am so glad I am not in the coast range anymore. Had to contend with choppers and aircraft flying out of Camp Rilea every year. It was also a testing area for drones when they first came out.

 

[socioecologist]

That's nice but I still had a Military Chopper hover low over my house for a few minutes the other day. So what about the Growers, med/rec? They might leave the consumer alone for now, uneasy about the other.

Digging holes and packing dirt is just a modern form of the Rain Dance.

I don't like to feed this line of thought, but there has been A LOT of military aircraft flying directly over us in the past 2 weeks also. Big birds, loud noises, much intensity. Different choppers too: there have been twin rotor Sikorski monsters down to little Bells with FLIR pods.

Always makes me uneasy.

 

[Robrites]

I can just see the Feds mistaking Hemp for Marijuana and come in with guns blazing.

 

[Dankwolf]

Ya hate to say it but i got a feeling something is up . i have seen alot of undercover rigs and the meeting on a turn off spot on the side of road one stater and 3 other vehical s they seem to be studying a map on the tail gate of a pick up . hopfully it has to do with the meth bust that have been reported on the news lately. Not sure why studing a map on a county road would help with city meth but ether way i feel for all the rec growers hope oregon backs you guys up .

For all the legal growers there are i do find it odd that black market prices are lower then med or rec by a long shot . it goes with out saying why this is true .

 

[Dankwolf]

I can just see the Feds mistaking Hemp for Marijuana and come in with guns blazing.

Lol .

But we all know better the feds would still be proud lol