The Oregon Weed Thread -Grows, News and Laws and Whatever

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Yeah the end of sending people to jail for weed was the primary rationalization for legalization to begin with, but now big money is involved so the state cops now become enforcers for the very small minority of licensed weed dealers who had the very deep pockets necessary to obtain the licensed status. Fukken capitalism.

 

[Robrites]

Huge Black Market for Cannabis in Oregon

Huge Black Market for Cannabis in Oregon

I’ve read there is still a huge black market for cannabis in Oregon. What gives?

Yes, there is a large black market, has always been, and will be for a while here in Oregon. There is also a dark gray market, an off-white market, and many shades between. As a general concept, the further cannabis gets from the grower, the darker the market.

Right now, Oregon probably grows about four or five times the amount of marijuana that is consumed in state. (It’s not like we aren’t trying; there’s just too much pot.) A recent study estimates that just 30 percent of all pot transactions are state-approved. Much of the surplus weed goes from sea to shining sea, but especially to hubs like Illinois, Minnesota, New York, and Florida. Because Oregon weed is an excellent brand, demand is high nationwide.

Much of Oregon’s exported weed is grown in two southern counties: Jackson and Josephine. And much of that weed is straight-to-black market—e.g., a pound of local weed may sell for $1,000 here, and re-sell somewhere like Texas for $7,000. Other transactions may be grayer and comparatively benign—e.g., a pound of weed grown under the medical program may be sold to the cardholder’s friend, at friendly prices.

As with any commodity, the blacker the market gets, the higher the price for weed. This is because we compensate dealers for increased risk of arrest, the cost of turf, and so on. One day, when weed becomes legal nationwide, the black market will probably look similar to those for other controlled substances, like tobacco and booze. Today, a few people still buy loosies and moonshine, but most of us go to the store.

It will be a while before Idaho, Texas, and other miserable states change their laws, so Oregon attempts to moderate the black market in three primary ways: law enforcement, supply, and taxation. Oregon needs to improve its enforcement, and turkeys like Jeff Sessions point to this as evidence that the program must end altogether. This argument ignores the demand side, though, where federal prohibition has created an irrepressible national market for Oregon weed.

On supply, we’re doing better. The goal here is to have enough legal weed so that no Oregonian needs to go off-system. We’re close on that one, but issues with state-mandated testing and license approval have caused temporary shortages. Right now, weed is sold before it’s been grown—at least in the OLCC system. This should even out by 2018.

As for taxation, the goal is to generate revenue but keep prices low. When prices drop and stay below the black market, the black market disappears. The last people to leave will be the heaviest cannabis users, who are generally most price-sensitive and accustomed to informality. When all of those folks are finally going to the store, the black market will be gone—at least for Oregon sales. And when the national laws change, the black market will dissipate altogether.

 

[Robrites]

OLCC Announces Spring 2017 Recreational Marijuana Workshops

OLCC Announces Spring 2017 Recreational Marijuana Workshops

OLCC Workshops to Provide Program Updates, Pesticide Information, Packaging & Labeling Best Practices, CTS Instruction, Tax Reporting

The Oregon Liquor Control Commission, along with the Oregon Department of Agriculture, the Oregon Department of Revenue, and Franwell Metrc – the provider of Oregon’s Cannabis Tracking System (CTS), will hold Recreational Marijuana Program licensee workshops around the state in May, 2017.

The workshops will be held in Eugene at Lane Community College on May 3, in Ashland at Southern Oregon University on May 4, in Newport at the Best Western Agate Beach on May 11, and in Bend at the Riverhouse on the Deschutes on May 18th. At this time the Oregon Department of Revenue will present only at the Newport and Eugene workshops.

Registration is now open.

The workshops will include program updates and information on:

· Update on Rules & Licensee information

· Pesticides

· Packaging and Labeling

· Cannabis Tracking System – Bring Your Own Device/Data (BYOD) – Metrc will answer your questions

· Taxes: Collecting & Reporting

There will be two tracks offered, one for producers and processors, and another for wholesalers and retailers. The content will be tailored to the license categories.

Register/Learn More

 

[Robrites]

Weird how Oregon has become two different states. This guy would be arrested in my county but makes a legal living in Portland.

 

[Aota1]

I'll be at the Eugene workshop. A whole day of compliance fun! Woohoo

 

[Fresh Start]

Law changes for Producers and Processors

Law changes for Producers and Processors

I just got an email last week about "temporary occupational permits" being available for producers and processors that are having a hard time completing a LUCS to submit to ONI and OLCC. Anyone else have info on this topic?

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

I'll be at the Eugene workshop. A whole day of compliance fun! Woohoo

Tell us what they have to say about compliance with the new data privacy rule the governor just signed
http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2017/04/marijuana_user_data_protected.html
Specifically I'm wondering if there is a loophole in PoS wares which come from out of state suppliers and rely on out of state computing services. Biotrack being the prime example, in their software data input gets hustled off to their servers in Florida for processing & storage outside of the jurisdiction of the state government and this new regulation.

 

[Aota1]

Will do. I've been wondering myself. Luckily we are using an Oregon bred pos system now. Used to have one out of Colorado that was terrible- mj freeway

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Will do. I've been wondering myself. Luckily we are using an Oregon bred pos system now. Used to have one out of Colorado that was terrible- mj freeway

Thats good news about your particular vendor.
I saw a lot of people who turned out to be uninterested in visiting the weed store after they came in the door & saw the check in procedure. Some of them would still shop after I promised to misspell their name & change their birthday or whatever, but I'm sure that a substantial fraction of the potential business was too turned off by the ID bullshit.

 

[OregonBorn]

With $5 gram/$99 ounces in PDX, how can black market weed survive?

 

[OregonBorn]

Does this mean I can grow 4 plants at my residence in Oregon within 1000 yards of a school?

Oregon’s House and Senate have both approved the same version of a bill that would alter several marijuana-related penalties.

Senate Bill 302 passed Oregon’s Senate last month with a 21 to 8 vote, and today it was approved by the House of Representatives with a 34 to 21 vote. The proposal now goes to Governor Kate Brown who has the option of signing it into law, allowing it to become law without her signature, or vetoing it.

If it does become law, as expected, Senate Bill 302 would reduce the penalty for possessing more than the legal one ounce limit, but less than four times that limit. It would increase the penalty for possessing over 16 times the legal limit. The measure also “repeals additional penalties for the possession, manufacture, or sale of marijuana within 1,000 feet of a school”, and “moves criminal penalties and related provisions from the CSA [Controlled Substances Act] to the Control and Regulation of Marijuana Act”.

The Bill

 

[Aota1]

It does OregonBorn. They still have to be out of sight though.

 

[OregonBorn]

It does OregonBorn. They still have to be out of sight though.

Yeh! Now my brother can grow weed at his house!

Thanks for the info man.

 

[Aota1]

4/20 was our busiest day yet. We are still small but growing steadily and gaining a good reputation I think. Clones in stock now. Florida lemons, critical kush, Obama kush, gg12, and sweet lemons. With the governor signing the information bill regarding customer's personal info we can now just check id like a liquor store.

 

[Aota1]

Action Required: Retail Licensees Required to STOP Collecting, Retaining Consumer Information
Oregon Governor Kate Brown signed Senate Bill 863 into law on April 17, 2017.

This law does not change your reporting and inventory requirements as a licensee. You must report sales and inventory data into Metrc daily including Oregon Medical Marijuana Program (OMMP) card number if selling to a patient or caregiver.

SB 863 prohibits marijuana retailers from recording, retaining or transferring information contained on a passport, driver’s license, military identification card or other identification card.

What are marijuana retailers required to do?
Beginning immediately retailers may NOT record or retain customer information gathered from a piece of identification that could identify the customer.

Retailers are still required, prior to completing the sale of a marijuana item to a consumer, to verify that that the consumer has valid, unexpired government-issued photo identification and must verify that the consumer is 21 years of age or older. See: OLCC Recreational Marijuana Rules (Retailer Operational Requirements: 845-025-2820)

 

[OregonBorn]

4/20 was our busiest day yet. We are still small but growing steadily and gaining a good reputation I think. Clones in stock now. Florida lemons, critical kush, Obama kush, gg12, and sweet lemons. With the governor signing the information bill regarding customer's personal info we can now just check id like a liquor store.

Cool beans. Happy 420 day.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Action Required: Retail Licensees Required to STOP Collecting, Retaining Consumer Information
Oregon Governor Kate Brown signed Senate Bill 863 into law on April 17, 2017.

This law does not change your reporting and inventory requirements as a licensee. You must report sales and inventory data into Metrc daily including Oregon Medical Marijuana Program (OMMP) card number if selling to a patient or caregiver.

SB 863 prohibits marijuana retailers from recording, retaining or transferring information contained on a passport, driver’s license, military identification card or other identification card.

What are marijuana retailers required to do?
Beginning immediately retailers may NOT record or retain customer information gathered from a piece of identification that could identify the customer.

Retailers are still required, prior to completing the sale of a marijuana item to a consumer, to verify that that the consumer has valid, unexpired government-issued photo identification and must verify that the consumer is 21 years of age or older. See: OLCC Recreational Marijuana Rules (Retailer Operational Requirements: 845-025-2820)

Thats seem like good news, but wtf with the contradiction?

"You must report sales and inventory data into Metrc daily including Oregon Medical Marijuana Program (OMMP) card number if selling to a patient or caregiver."

"SB 863 prohibits marijuana retailers from recording, retaining or transferring information contained on a passport, driver’s license, military identification card or other identification card."

That OMMP card isn't identification? Cause it has your name and number on it. Seems that might be another attempt to discourage people with illnesses from getting their meds tax free. Its not even like the state is necessarily losing money selling people a tax-free card for $200, a lot of patients won't be spending more than $1000/year at a shop & in those cases the state gets more money with the medical card.
Maybe its just OLCC trying to screw over their revenue competitors at OHA.
Either way its disconcerting that our government publishes double-talk as law, people who do that are capable of all sorts of other devious shit.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Here is an opportunity - at what may be the brink of reprohibition - to go and test how good the current crop of pig dogs are.

 

[Slim Pickens]

Is anyone aware of a searchable list of strains that each Oregon dispensary carries on any given date?

Say for instance,I want to purchase some Juanita La Lagrimosa.Is there a searchable option to locate whether that strain is carried by any dispensary,and if so,who has it? Going from dispensary website,to dispensary website trying to track down a particular strain is a real time consumer.

 

[Aota1]

Not sure if we can discuss other sites on here but there is one that many use to list their menu's. It rhymes with kiefly.com