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Rolando Mota
Active member
If you're not white or straight you belong in the sewer? Don't worry you've got plenty of bigots here to keep you company.
I am not in Oregon but would move there possibly.
Of course it looks good for politicians to be tough on drugs. They make so much freak'n money on budget excuses and asset seizures. Sheriffs are elected. There are reasons why heroin is such a problem thanks to enforcement. More like problems with bad heroin cut with fentynal.
Of course it looks good for politicians to be tough on drugs. They make so much freak'n money on budget excuses and asset seizures. Sheriffs are elected. There are reasons why heroin is such a problem thanks to enforcement. More like problems with bad heroin cut with fentynal.
One of Sheriff's stated his County responded to 24 OD's over the weekend (Heroin). They did bring up asset seizure. Trump stated something to the effect of "Go after them, take their stuff, start now". I lease a shop from some good people for a med grow. I don't want them to get in any trouble. Currently thinking of yarding the plants out of there. It's all legal with cards but still. Am I overreacting?
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Robrites
Yes. We live in the coolest state in the country.....things are going to be fine here.
DAT
Member
Not recently not since before he was elected.But I did hear trump say , this past Sunday when he did an interview during the Super Bowl halftime in the radio, that he has an opinion about medical marijuana for pro football players, now that they are looking at weather the players should be ok smoking da weed...But he would not say what his opinion was because he wants the NFL to make the decision and doesn't want to get involved unless necessary. As far as mj and states... I have again heard him say he doesn't want to get involved . He wants the states to figure it out. He is no help whatsoever at this point. A real shame. I wish he would be progressive and legalize all drugs . What I can see from his agenda is no very forward thinking. I'm loving the convienence of legal Mj although it is way too expensive.
DAT
Member
Colorado seems cooler to me. They voted to allow public smoking weed at bars , restaurants And other public spaces such as art galleries and yoga studios. That is way cooler then Oregon.
Ya, that's me. A Fascist racist KKK white supremacist Nazi, born right here in Oregon. Well, what was Oregon anyway. When I was a kid I picked berries in the summer here, and we did not have any illegal aliens to do farm work. Amazing that we got along just fine then. And the funny thing is that many of my friends are black, oriental, from Mexico, and Jewish. And then there is my lesbian cousin... many of them actually agree with me.
Also, I did not say that they belong in the sewer. I say that they are making it into a sewer. The governor is leading the way by making this a sanctuary state and giving it away to Mexico, and leading the hoards of homeless here with free handouts and benefits. 1/4 of the state is on Medicaid. Over one million. Who exactly is going to pay for all of that? The other 3/4 of the state? Its unsustainable. Never mind PERS... that will simply bankrupt this state.
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Robrites
Oregon rejects ‘per se’ driving standard for cannabis
Oregon rejects ‘per se’ driving standard for cannabis
The Oregon Liquor Control Commission advised state lawmakers not to amend the state’s traffic safety laws or institute per se thresholds for cannabinoids. The recommendations were part of a new report issued by , which had been tasked with reviewing the state’s driving laws following the passage of legislation in 2015.
Per se means that the presence of a certain amount of a given drug in the bloodstream, in and of itself, constitutes proof of impairment. That is simply not true for cannabis. The Commission reviewed the data and flatly rejected the adoption of per se traffic safety laws as a standard for cannabis impairment.
No major impact on driving attributable to cannabis
Authors concluded that intoxication due to alcohol, not marijuana, remains by far the greatest contributor to motor vehicle accidents and found “no evidence” of an “epidemic of THC-related collisions” post marijuana legalization.
They further reported, “tudies that have been conducted tend to show an elevated risk of crashes while under the influence of THC, but generally a lower overall risk as compared to alcohol impairment.”
Per se levels may work for alcohol but not for cannabinoids
Specifically, authors acknowledged that drivers with a blood alcohol level of .08 possess approximately a 400 percent increase in motor crash risk compared to sober drivers. By contrast, recent crash culpability studies of marijuana-positive drivers report an elevated risk of accident of 30 percent or lower.
Authors also rejected the idea of imposing per se limits that criminalize the act of operating a motor vehicle if the driver possesses detectable amounts of specific drugs or drug metabolites above a set threshold. Under these laws, drivers are guilty per se of violating the traffic safety laws even absent evidence of demonstrable impairment.
Oregon rejects ‘per se’ driving standard for cannabis
The Oregon Liquor Control Commission advised state lawmakers not to amend the state’s traffic safety laws or institute per se thresholds for cannabinoids. The recommendations were part of a new report issued by , which had been tasked with reviewing the state’s driving laws following the passage of legislation in 2015.
Per se means that the presence of a certain amount of a given drug in the bloodstream, in and of itself, constitutes proof of impairment. That is simply not true for cannabis. The Commission reviewed the data and flatly rejected the adoption of per se traffic safety laws as a standard for cannabis impairment.
No major impact on driving attributable to cannabis
Authors concluded that intoxication due to alcohol, not marijuana, remains by far the greatest contributor to motor vehicle accidents and found “no evidence” of an “epidemic of THC-related collisions” post marijuana legalization.
They further reported, “
Per se levels may work for alcohol but not for cannabinoids
Specifically, authors acknowledged that drivers with a blood alcohol level of .08 possess approximately a 400 percent increase in motor crash risk compared to sober drivers. By contrast, recent crash culpability studies of marijuana-positive drivers report an elevated risk of accident of 30 percent or lower.
Authors also rejected the idea of imposing per se limits that criminalize the act of operating a motor vehicle if the driver possesses detectable amounts of specific drugs or drug metabolites above a set threshold. Under these laws, drivers are guilty per se of violating the traffic safety laws even absent evidence of demonstrable impairment.
I saw an article on KVAL Eugene that talked of a little known deduction that Patients who qualify for Food Stamps can deduct their cost of growing or purchasing their Med MJ. Nearly all of my patients are on Foodies yet this is the first time I've heard of it. I don't know how to link the article maybe someone else here could. I hope it helps someone you know. I usually get bent about State Budget issues but this one sounds like a good idea.
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Robrites
Marijuana Delivery starts in Oregon
Marijuana Delivery starts in Oregon
PORTLAND, Ore. — Oregon is rolling out another first in the recreational marijuana industry. Customers may now order pot from licensed retailers and have it delivered to their homes.
The Oregon Liquor Control Commission had granted delivery permits to 117 retailers across Oregon, including 13 in Portland last year, but postponed their permission until last month.
“We needed to make an adaptation to the cannabis tracking system to provide a document that would actually allow for the delivery of recreational marijuana to homes,” said OLCC spokesman Mark Pettinger.
There are several OLCC rules regulating home marijuana delivery.
For example, marijuana retailers can only deliver within the city they’re licensed in. The marijuana delivery must be transported in a locked box, secured to the delivery vehicle and no more than $3,000 worth of product at a time. Retailers can’t deliver product to places like motels, campgrounds or dorms, just residential homes.
“It’s super exciting,” said Spencer Krutzler, manager of La Cannaisseur in Linnton, one of the first retailers licensed for delivery in Portland. “I definitely expect to a smile on everyone’s face when we show up to that front door.”
Since starting its delivery service in February, Krutzler said La Cannaisseur has only taken a few mobile orders, but word is spreading.
“There are people who need it and are not able to get around quite as well as I am,” said customer James Earl. “[Home delivery] is a very useful thing for them to have access to.”
The OLCC requires marijuana delivery customers to be at least 21 years or old. Customers must sign for deliveries, which can only be made between 8 a.m. and 9 p.m.
Other than that, Krutzler said the process should feel pretty familiar.
“This is like, you’re going to call the pizza guy, then you’re going to call us,” said Krutzler. “We’re going to have a good time.”
https://www.oregonweed.xyz/2017/02/10/marijuana-delivery-starts-in-oregon/
Marijuana Delivery starts in Oregon
PORTLAND, Ore. — Oregon is rolling out another first in the recreational marijuana industry. Customers may now order pot from licensed retailers and have it delivered to their homes.
The Oregon Liquor Control Commission had granted delivery permits to 117 retailers across Oregon, including 13 in Portland last year, but postponed their permission until last month.
“We needed to make an adaptation to the cannabis tracking system to provide a document that would actually allow for the delivery of recreational marijuana to homes,” said OLCC spokesman Mark Pettinger.
There are several OLCC rules regulating home marijuana delivery.
For example, marijuana retailers can only deliver within the city they’re licensed in. The marijuana delivery must be transported in a locked box, secured to the delivery vehicle and no more than $3,000 worth of product at a time. Retailers can’t deliver product to places like motels, campgrounds or dorms, just residential homes.
“It’s super exciting,” said Spencer Krutzler, manager of La Cannaisseur in Linnton, one of the first retailers licensed for delivery in Portland. “I definitely expect to a smile on everyone’s face when we show up to that front door.”
Since starting its delivery service in February, Krutzler said La Cannaisseur has only taken a few mobile orders, but word is spreading.
“There are people who need it and are not able to get around quite as well as I am,” said customer James Earl. “[Home delivery] is a very useful thing for them to have access to.”
The OLCC requires marijuana delivery customers to be at least 21 years or old. Customers must sign for deliveries, which can only be made between 8 a.m. and 9 p.m.
Other than that, Krutzler said the process should feel pretty familiar.
“This is like, you’re going to call the pizza guy, then you’re going to call us,” said Krutzler. “We’re going to have a good time.”
https://www.oregonweed.xyz/2017/02/10/marijuana-delivery-starts-in-oregon/
Smoking Lamp
Member
OLCC cracking down on lax marijuana licensee's..
http://www.ktvz.com/news/olcc-cracking-down-on-lax-marijuana-licensees/323615778
Oregon Liquor Control Commission Executive Director Steve Marks issued the following letter to OLCC Recreational Marijuana licensees:
COMPLIANCE NOTICE
A Message from Steve Marks, Executive Director, OLCC
To our OLCC Licensees,
Congratulations, you are one of more than 900 recreational marijuana licensees approved by the OLCC. Retail business sales now exceed $3 million per week and as we add retailers, average weekly sales per retailer remain steady at $17,000.
Every day additional products are being added to store shelves which is in part the result of testing changes that have expedited the ability to get products to market. There is no doubt that more work is needed to improve and streamline the testing process. Despite its imperfection, the market is growing every day. This is good news.
Now for the disappointing news. In spite of prolific communication about the Cannabis Tracking System (CTS), hands-on work with licensees, and extensive training opportunities provided by Metrc, about 20 percent of licensees, mostly growers, are failing to keep current the most basic CTS records. If you are one of these licensees, know that this is a compliance risk and will result in fines and/or cancellation of your license.
System Integrity Issues Require Immediate Fix
To the industry's credit, we are seeing vast improvements in recording sales properly; however, licensees are still making unacceptable data entry errors. Most egregious are the following non-compliance examples which are serious rule violations, and under OLCC rules require significant penalties:
Outdoor plants that are still recorded in the system as “flowering” even though it is well past harvest season.
Cannabis Tracking System packages that are not being created after harvest within the allowed 45 days.
I recognize that 80% of licensees have learned to use the Cannabis Tracking System and are properly recording data and I commend you for your diligent work to learn to use CTS and properly record data. Most of you are devoting the necessary attention to this essential responsibility. This data is essential to ensuring our system's integrity and to the OLCC’s ability to assure the public that the system is accountable to Oregon law and federal guidance.
Using the Cannabis Tracking System is Not Voluntary
Using the Cannabis Tracking System is not voluntary. As a condition of licensure, managers and other designated personnel were required to take and pass training on the Cannabis Tracking System.
To those of you that are failing to properly record data in CTS, an essential licensee responsibility, I have directed OLCC personnel to flag all licensees not meeting data tracking requirements and to inform them of non-compliance issues.
If in response to this message, licensees make efforts to proactively comply with CTS data entry requirements, then OLCC staff may consider these circumstances in evaluating options to address past non-compliance; including settlement of violations.
Achieving a Vision for a “Best in Nation” System
Although I am disappointed about data entry violations that are occurring, I still firmly believe that the overall industry is as committed as we are at OLCC to demonstrating and taking pride in a “best in the nation” marijuana regulatory system - a system that is accountable, user friendly, and profitable for well-run businesses and the state. Clearly, it is still very early in this journey and with our commitment and your understanding we can correct our course and move forward together.
This message to you will be followed by a technical bulletin to all licensees through CTS and GovDelivery addressing compliance matters specific to the Cannabis Tracking System as well as other potential compliance issues concerning labeling and packaging, sales to minors, and sales of medical grade product to non OMMP cardholders.
So, the first year grade for OLCC and our licensees is ”Good but Needs Improvement.” That said, with the help of licensees, the Governor and legislators, the OLCC has confidence that the industry can rapidly move to a status of "High Achievement.”
Sincerely,
Steven Marks
Executive Director, OLCC
http://www.ktvz.com/news/olcc-cracking-down-on-lax-marijuana-licensees/323615778
Oregon Liquor Control Commission Executive Director Steve Marks issued the following letter to OLCC Recreational Marijuana licensees:
COMPLIANCE NOTICE
A Message from Steve Marks, Executive Director, OLCC
To our OLCC Licensees,
Congratulations, you are one of more than 900 recreational marijuana licensees approved by the OLCC. Retail business sales now exceed $3 million per week and as we add retailers, average weekly sales per retailer remain steady at $17,000.
Every day additional products are being added to store shelves which is in part the result of testing changes that have expedited the ability to get products to market. There is no doubt that more work is needed to improve and streamline the testing process. Despite its imperfection, the market is growing every day. This is good news.
Now for the disappointing news. In spite of prolific communication about the Cannabis Tracking System (CTS), hands-on work with licensees, and extensive training opportunities provided by Metrc, about 20 percent of licensees, mostly growers, are failing to keep current the most basic CTS records. If you are one of these licensees, know that this is a compliance risk and will result in fines and/or cancellation of your license.
System Integrity Issues Require Immediate Fix
To the industry's credit, we are seeing vast improvements in recording sales properly; however, licensees are still making unacceptable data entry errors. Most egregious are the following non-compliance examples which are serious rule violations, and under OLCC rules require significant penalties:
Outdoor plants that are still recorded in the system as “flowering” even though it is well past harvest season.
Cannabis Tracking System packages that are not being created after harvest within the allowed 45 days.
I recognize that 80% of licensees have learned to use the Cannabis Tracking System and are properly recording data and I commend you for your diligent work to learn to use CTS and properly record data. Most of you are devoting the necessary attention to this essential responsibility. This data is essential to ensuring our system's integrity and to the OLCC’s ability to assure the public that the system is accountable to Oregon law and federal guidance.
Using the Cannabis Tracking System is Not Voluntary
Using the Cannabis Tracking System is not voluntary. As a condition of licensure, managers and other designated personnel were required to take and pass training on the Cannabis Tracking System.
To those of you that are failing to properly record data in CTS, an essential licensee responsibility, I have directed OLCC personnel to flag all licensees not meeting data tracking requirements and to inform them of non-compliance issues.
If in response to this message, licensees make efforts to proactively comply with CTS data entry requirements, then OLCC staff may consider these circumstances in evaluating options to address past non-compliance; including settlement of violations.
Achieving a Vision for a “Best in Nation” System
Although I am disappointed about data entry violations that are occurring, I still firmly believe that the overall industry is as committed as we are at OLCC to demonstrating and taking pride in a “best in the nation” marijuana regulatory system - a system that is accountable, user friendly, and profitable for well-run businesses and the state. Clearly, it is still very early in this journey and with our commitment and your understanding we can correct our course and move forward together.
This message to you will be followed by a technical bulletin to all licensees through CTS and GovDelivery addressing compliance matters specific to the Cannabis Tracking System as well as other potential compliance issues concerning labeling and packaging, sales to minors, and sales of medical grade product to non OMMP cardholders.
So, the first year grade for OLCC and our licensees is ”Good but Needs Improvement.” That said, with the help of licensees, the Governor and legislators, the OLCC has confidence that the industry can rapidly move to a status of "High Achievement.”
Sincerely,
Steven Marks
Executive Director, OLCC
I don't like it, man.
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Robrites
Lawmakers consider consolidating marijuana regulation
Lawmakers consider consolidating marijuana regulation
SALEM — State legislators are moving toward consolidating the state’s medical and recreational marijuana industries into one regulatory system.
The co-chairwomen of the Joint Committee on Marijuana Regulation have dropped several bills that would move regulation of medical marijuana from the Oregon Health Authority to the Oregon Liquor Control Commission, the regulatory agency for recreational sales of the drug. Another proposal would establish a separate agency specifically for cannabis regulation.
OHA has regulated the medical marijuana program since it was created through Ballot Measure 67 in 1998. When voters legalized recreational cannabis use with Measure 91 in 2014, regulation of the new program was assigned to the liquor commission, while the health authority retained its oversight of the medical program.
Health authority officials from the beginning were reluctant overseers, said Tom Burns, a marijuana policy consultant and former health authority administrator.
The Oregon Health Authority’s tardy and ill-conceived rollout of rules and dedication of resources to the program was an “unmitigated disaster,” for marijuana regulation Burns said.
In time, it became apparent that two separate systems made little or no sense because of OHA’s disinterest in regulating the program, he said.
“The medical suppliers, growers and patients said let us get it out of OHA to somebody who does want it and will work with us to make a program that works for us,” Burns said.
But that sentiment may not permeate the entire medical marijuana industry and its patients, said Rep. Carl Willson, R-Grants Pass, a member of the legislative marijuana regulation committee.
“I think we all realize that there is a big push to have everybody under OLCC,” said Wilson, whose district covers the marijuana-fertile lands of Southern Oregon.
Part of the idea of splitting up regulation was to keep medical costs down for patients. OLCC instituted much more strict and expensive marijuana regulations to report and track product, while OHA’s system relied largely on self-reporting. OHA also charges lower fees for registration and licensing.
“A lot of people have griped about OMMP (the Oregon Medical Marijuana Program) and OHA over time, but as they look at OLCC, they are starting to fall in love with OHA and OMMP again,” Wilson said.
Their hesitation in embracing the OLCC stems largely from the higher cost of producing marijuana in the recreational system, where fees are higher for almost everything and regulation is more onerous.
Wilson said he would support consolidation if lower fees were charged medical growers and suppliers and if medical growers could sell into the recreational market, which they are now prohibited from doing.
Andre Ourso, manager of OHA’s medical marijuana program, said OHA has had its “hands full” regulating the program.
“It’s definitely taken its share of criticism, and in some cases, rightfully so,” Ourso said. “But overall I think we’ve done a very good job in handling the duties that have been handed down to us.”
Nevertheless, OHA officials see the sense in consolidating the marijuana programs.
“We can see that for bureaucratic efficiency’s sake, there really shouldn’t be two parallel regulatory systems, but there is still going to be a necessity for patients to have a program to be in,” Ourso said.
For example, patients don’t have to pay taxes when they purchase medical marijuana. They have access to higher concentrations of tetrahydrocannabinol, the active ingredient in cannabis, and they can buy more of it.
“I do think there is a place for the registry program within the state of Oregon,” Ourso said. “It’s up … this Legislature to determine exactly how that would be shaped.”
https://www.oregonweed.xyz/2017/02/13/lawmakers-consider-consolidating-marijuana-regulation/
Lawmakers consider consolidating marijuana regulation
SALEM — State legislators are moving toward consolidating the state’s medical and recreational marijuana industries into one regulatory system.
The co-chairwomen of the Joint Committee on Marijuana Regulation have dropped several bills that would move regulation of medical marijuana from the Oregon Health Authority to the Oregon Liquor Control Commission, the regulatory agency for recreational sales of the drug. Another proposal would establish a separate agency specifically for cannabis regulation.
OHA has regulated the medical marijuana program since it was created through Ballot Measure 67 in 1998. When voters legalized recreational cannabis use with Measure 91 in 2014, regulation of the new program was assigned to the liquor commission, while the health authority retained its oversight of the medical program.
Health authority officials from the beginning were reluctant overseers, said Tom Burns, a marijuana policy consultant and former health authority administrator.
The Oregon Health Authority’s tardy and ill-conceived rollout of rules and dedication of resources to the program was an “unmitigated disaster,” for marijuana regulation Burns said.
In time, it became apparent that two separate systems made little or no sense because of OHA’s disinterest in regulating the program, he said.
“The medical suppliers, growers and patients said let us get it out of OHA to somebody who does want it and will work with us to make a program that works for us,” Burns said.
But that sentiment may not permeate the entire medical marijuana industry and its patients, said Rep. Carl Willson, R-Grants Pass, a member of the legislative marijuana regulation committee.
“I think we all realize that there is a big push to have everybody under OLCC,” said Wilson, whose district covers the marijuana-fertile lands of Southern Oregon.
Part of the idea of splitting up regulation was to keep medical costs down for patients. OLCC instituted much more strict and expensive marijuana regulations to report and track product, while OHA’s system relied largely on self-reporting. OHA also charges lower fees for registration and licensing.
“A lot of people have griped about OMMP (the Oregon Medical Marijuana Program) and OHA over time, but as they look at OLCC, they are starting to fall in love with OHA and OMMP again,” Wilson said.
Their hesitation in embracing the OLCC stems largely from the higher cost of producing marijuana in the recreational system, where fees are higher for almost everything and regulation is more onerous.
Wilson said he would support consolidation if lower fees were charged medical growers and suppliers and if medical growers could sell into the recreational market, which they are now prohibited from doing.
Andre Ourso, manager of OHA’s medical marijuana program, said OHA has had its “hands full” regulating the program.
“It’s definitely taken its share of criticism, and in some cases, rightfully so,” Ourso said. “But overall I think we’ve done a very good job in handling the duties that have been handed down to us.”
Nevertheless, OHA officials see the sense in consolidating the marijuana programs.
“We can see that for bureaucratic efficiency’s sake, there really shouldn’t be two parallel regulatory systems, but there is still going to be a necessity for patients to have a program to be in,” Ourso said.
For example, patients don’t have to pay taxes when they purchase medical marijuana. They have access to higher concentrations of tetrahydrocannabinol, the active ingredient in cannabis, and they can buy more of it.
“I do think there is a place for the registry program within the state of Oregon,” Ourso said. “It’s up … this Legislature to determine exactly how that would be shaped.”
https://www.oregonweed.xyz/2017/02/13/lawmakers-consider-consolidating-marijuana-regulation/
Yes, the end of OHA medical MJ in Oregon. I saw this coming when California nuked their medical program. OHA is such a useless piece of crap bureaucracy. Doing any real work like actually managing OHP or OMMP is just too f'ing hard for the one speed state employees. Dealing with them is always a vicious cycle of insanity. Like many other Oregon state agencies, starting from the top down.
My new logo: #NotMyGovernor
My new logo: #NotMyGovernor
Would be nice to sell into the Rec Market. I worry about them pricing us out of the Med side though. I can't afford to do it anymore. Savings have dwindled and patients can't help with costs. Not able to sell is shutting me out. I didn't get into this to get rich. Only to help others and maybe offset costs. They can't keep charging $200 per card grower fee and not allow us to recoup that expense. That fee was set when we were able to sell. Life in a banned county.
What in the fuck?
You're almost better off guerrilla growing.
You're almost better off guerrilla growing.
Smoking Lamp
Member
time to rally and get something codefied in the state constitution ...and hopefully have a frame work for ...judges, police, attorneys and administrators to adhere to...otherwise i got two fingers for the state...guess
Guerrilla growing? You mean like growing for the black market? The black market for weed is still around in Portland. It will also still be legal to grow your own weed here. 4 plants per address. You just will not be able to grow in high volume or sell weed w/o a rec license. The 6 plants per medical card will become vapor, along with growing for medical dispensaries, as well as the dispensaries themselves. Or they will morph into rec sales stores.
An OMMP card will get you 17-20% off on your rec MJ purchases, like in California. That will be it. Legal weed is not all that it is cracked up to be.
