The Oregon Weed Thread -Grows, News and Laws and Whatever

[shaggyballs]

Legal weed is not all that it is cracked up to be that is a big FOR SURE.
Just try to get back your lost right now that it is legal, they will impose more and more restrictions but you will have a slim chance in hell of recovering lost personal rights once they are lost.
Now I am not suggesting to give up trying, no-no keep tryin'.
I think it is best to have preserved those valuable rights to freedom before they are stolen from you...No?

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

I guess I missed the memo that Cali shut down their med system. That's wild.

 

[Phenome]

Any of you guys hear about hb2556? Trying to make paraphernalia to only be sold from olcc licensed marijuana retailers... They consider paraphernalia any thing used to smoke, grow or process weed...... So they are trying to shut down every pipe shop and grow store.
https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/HB2556/Introduced

 

[Phenome]

(a) Kits marketed for use or
designed for use in unlawfully planting, propagating, cultivating,
growing or harvesting of any species of plant which is a controlled substance or from which a con-
trolled substance can be derived;
(b) Kits marketed for use or designed
for use in manufacturing, compounding, converting,
producing, processing or preparing controlled substances;
(c) Isomerization devices
marketed for use or designed for use in increasing the potency of any
species of plant which is a controlled substance;
(d) Testing equipment marketed for use or designed for use
in identifying or in analyzing the
strength, effectiveness or purity of controlled substances;
(e) Scales and balances marketed for use or designed for use
in weighing or measuring con-
trolled
substances;
(f) Diluents and
adulterants, such as quinine hydrochloride, mannitol, mannite, dextrose and
lactose, marketed for use or designed for use in cutting controlled substances;
(g) Separation gins and sifters marketed for use or designed for use in removing
twigs and seeds
from, or in otherwise cleaning or refining marijuana;
(h) Containers and other objects marketed for use or designed for use in storing
or concealing
controlled substances; and
(i) Objects marketed for use or
designed specifically for use in ingesting, inhaling or otherwise
introducing marijuana, cocaine, hashish or hashish oil into the human body, such as:
(A) Metal, wooden, acrylic, glass, stone,
plastic or ceramic pipes with or without screens, per-
manent screens or hashish heads;
(B) Water pipes;
(C) Carburetion tubes and devices;
(D) Smoking and carburetion masks;
(E) Roach clips, meaning objects used to hold burning material that has
become too small or too
short to be held in the hand, such as a marijuana cigarette;
(F) Miniature cocaine spoons and cocaine vials;
(G) Chamber pipes;
(H) Carburetor pipes;
(I) Electric pipes;
(J) Air-driven pipes;
(K) Chillums;
(L) Bongs;
(M) Ice pipes or chillers; and
(N) Lighting equipment specifically designed for the growing of controlled substances.
(3) “Drug paraphernalia” does not include hypodermic syringes or needles.
[
(4) For the purposes of this
section, “marijuana paraphernalia” means all equipment, products and
materials of any kind which are marketed for use or designed for use in planting, propagating,
culti-
vating, growing, harvesting, manufacturing, compounding, converting, producing, processing, preparing,
testing, analyzing, packaging, repackaging, storing, containing, concealing, injecting, ingesting,
inhaling or otherwise introducing into the human body marijuana in violation of ORS 475.840

 

[Robrites]

Any of you guys hear about hb2556? Trying to make paraphernalia to only be sold from olcc licensed marijuana retailers... They consider paraphernalia any thing used to smoke, grow or process weed...... So they are trying to shut down every pipe shop and grow store.
https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/HB2556/Introduced

Oh fuck, we gotta stop this.

Summary

Restricts sale and delivery of marijuana paraphernalia. Creates violation for unlawful sale or delivery of marijuana paraphernalia. Punishes by maximum of $2,000 fine.

 

[DuskrayTroubador]

They lull everyone to sleep and then have a whole list of sneaky shit they try to pass after legalization.

 

[mojave green]

Yeah, that's a very nasty bill!

 

[Smoking Lamp]

fuck nao

fuck nao

this is collusion from the state.....google who kevin neelys wife is and why she recently resigned as gov browns chief of staff....

neelys profile at cec... mentioned him as former head lobbyist of the oregon department of Justice and just happened to be listed as treasurer of new approach during e campaign.

former clients of cec

tobiax read......head of budget committee state congressman
tina kotek
craig roberts. sheriff currently on olcc action committee.
ginny burdick

we were setup and people like anthony johnson and russ belville led that charge....

https://secure.sos.state.or.us/orestar/sooDetail.do?sooRsn=70842

 

[Smoking Lamp]

whats next for oregon cannabis

whats next for oregon cannabis

this article just drives me crazy.......fuck republicans fuck democrats..all worthless
(ps ...on a tablet....would somebody cut and paste article...thank you!)

http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2017/02/oregon_lawmakers_take_up_mergi.html#incart_gallery

 

[Big Sur]

I guess I missed the memo that Cali shut down their med system. That's wild.

That memo was Prop 64. Out with the old, in with the new. It has not happened yet in California, but it will. As outlined in Prop 64, all MJ oversight in Cali is all being rolled under the new controlling agency, a sister agency similar to the ABC which currently controls booze, beer and wine in California. Medical marijuana card holders in California will get a break on sales tax at the point of sale of rec weed, but that is about all they will get. MJ sales will all be from rec weed stores or at smoking lounges. Grows will all be at licensed rec weed growing operations in state.

CALCannabis Cultivation Licensing will replaces what were formerly known as the Medical Cannabis Cultivation Program and Marijuana Cultivation Program. Licenses in California will begin to be issued Jan, 1, 2018. Sales of rec weed in California will also begin Jan. 1, 2018 (presumably supplied by medical grows previous to that, like what happened here in Oregon).

 

[Big Sur]

this article just drives me crazy.......fuck republicans fuck democrats..all worthless
(ps ...on a tablet....would somebody cut and paste article...thank you!)

http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana...n_lawmakers_take_up_mergi.html#incart_gallery

It looks like Oregon and California will become more or less the same as far as pot laws are concerned. No more medical MJ, other than no sales tax with a medical MJ card. Rec weed will be heavily taxed, licensed, and regulated. Weed sales, growing and smoking lounges will be allowed only where local munis say they can be. Smoking lounges may come under fire in Oregon (as well as California) though with both states' clean air acts.

The impact in Oregon of no more medical MJ dispensaries will be the hardest felt in east of the Cascades, where weed licenses of any kind are not allowed in all counties except Deschutes, and not allowed in most cities east of the Cascades. Douglas and Marion Counties also do not allow licenses west of the Cascades, though several cities in those counties allow weed sales.

 

[Big Sur]

Full text

Full text

from: http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana...n_lawmakers_take_up_mergi.html#incart_gallery

What's next for Oregon pot:

Merging medical and recreational markets, higher taxes, clubs
Oregon marijuana bills focus on merging programs, higher sales tax

The Oregonian/OregonLive By Noelle Crombie

February 17, 2017

Oregon lawmakers will consider a wide range of marijuana issues this session, including a proposal to merge key elements of the state's longstanding medical program with the tightly controlled recreational one and a bill that would allow cannabis-friendly clubs and special events.

With the lucrative recreational marijuana program well underway and generating an estimated $3 million in sales each week, lawmakers are taking a hard look at how to move thousands of smaller medical marijuana growers into the seed-to-sale system managed by the Oregon Liquor Control Commission.

Proponents of the proposal say integrating the two systems would not only prove more efficient for the industry and bureaucrats, it would tackle the vexing problem of how to keep Oregon marijuana out of the robust black market.

For now, medical marijuana growers are subject to a relatively light touch when it comes to regulation and oversight under the Oregon Health Authority. They also have increasingly limited legal options when it comes to selling their product; they can provide it directly to patients or sell it to dispensaries, which are allowed to sell only to medical marijuana patients and caregivers. With recreational marijuana now legal in Oregon, the number of dispensaries operating statewide declined sharply, shrinking a significant legal outlet for medical producers.

Senate Majority Leader Ginny Burdick, D-Portland, who also serves as co-chair of the legislative committee overseeing marijuana policy, said this week that knitting the two systems together is the main focus this year. She said some in the medical marijuana industry were reluctant at first to merge with the recreational system, but the first year of regulation under the liquor commission has gone relatively smoothly and that helped to relieve some of their concerns.

Folding medical production into the recreational system means those growers have access to a much larger and more profitable consumer market.

"The more we can consolidate," said Burdick, "the better it is for the industry."

Yet some medical marijuana advocates worry integration spells trouble for Oregon's long-standing program. They argue that regulation by the liquor commission comes with higher costs and increased security requirements that pose burdens to smaller producers.

They worry, too, about patients who've come to rely on free or low-cost cannabis from medical marijuana growers who shift to the recreational market. As the market increasingly caters to recreational consumers' tastes and preferences, advocates fear the sick will be left behind.

"We really do have a medical program that's been functioning for nearly two decades that really has benefited tens of thousands of patients and to disrupt that for regulatory ease is not very good," said Anthony Taylor, a longtime advocate for patients.

"I understand they want to capture as much commerce as they can," he said, "but adding medical marijuana patients to their plate doesn't really mean that's going to happen, at least not for patients."

House Speaker Tina Kotek, D-Portland, this week said her priority is ensuring adequate oversight of the medical and recreational programs. She said while she wouldn't be surprised to see them consolidated under the liquor commission, she, too, wonders about medical marijuana patients.

"We do need to have a robust medical marijuana market," she said. "It's really important for people's health. I do worry a little bit that recreational somehow will supersede all of that."

Taxes and pot lounges among other proposals

Burdick outlined other key marijuana-related priorities the Legislature will address this session. Among them: allowing local governments to impose up to 8 percent sales taxes on recreational sales. Currently, local taxes are capped at 3 percent. That's on top of a 17 percent state tax on the drug.

Burdick said she and Senate Republican Leader Ted Ferrioli, of John Day, have worked together on the proposed tax increase, hoping that the prospect of increased revenue will entice local governments to reconsider bans on the businesses. According to the liquor commission, 89 cities and counties have banned recreational marijuana businesses.

Combined, the proposed increase and the state tax would bring the overall tax rate to 25 percent -- the same rate that was in place last year. Washington, by comparison, imposes a 37 percent marijuana excise tax. Pot purchases may be subject to state and local sales tax as well.

"My hope is that by increasing the local tax in a reasonable manner, there will be more incentive for localities to opt in," Burdick said. "That really needs to happen because people in the opt-out areas are still going to have issues around cannabis and the more that are actually in the system, the more you can control and regulate."

'Social' cannabis consumption a hot issue

Lawmakers also are considering proposals to allow cannabis clubs and special events featuring marijuana consumption. Marijuana advocates argue that while anyone 21 and older can legally grow and buy cannabis, they don't have many options when it comes to consuming it.

"Now that cannabis is legal for adults in Oregon, we are left out with no safe place to consume," said Madeline Martinez, who owned the World Famous Cannabis Cafe, a Portland marijuana club that closed early last year due to the clean indoor air rules.

Martinez said her Southeast Portland establishment, which didn't sell marijuana but offered people a place to consume their own or share with others, served Oregonians and tourists as well.

"I had people coming in taxis to be dropped off at the cafe with their carry-on bags because they were coming to Portland to experience the freedoms we voted for and now where do they go?" she said.

But Oregon's Indoor Clean Air Act prohibits the use of marijuana, along with tobacco, in public areas and workplaces. And the state's leading public health officials strongly oppose proposals that would weaken the law.

Marijuana smoke is harmful, they argue, and events and establishments that feature marijuana smoking send the wrong message to young people.

"Regardless of the cause of the smoke, whether it's tobacco or cannabis or a campfire or pollution, inhaling particulate matter is not good whether you are smoking it yourself or breathing secondhand smoke," said Dr. Katrina Hedberg, state epidemiologist and health officer with the health authority.

Hedberg pointed out that public health surveys found hookah use increased significantly between 2008 and 2009 among eighth-graders living in the five Oregon counties where hookah lounges operate compared to middle-schoolers living in counties without them. Existing lounges were grandfathered into the clean air rules and proliferated around 2009, state health officials said.

Dr. Paul Lewis, a pediatrician and Tri-County Health Officer for Multnomah, Clackamas and Washington counties, also pushed back against proposals that would weaken indoor clean air rules. He said allowing smoking at special events would change "social norms about smoking, a setback to the last half-century of progress on this topic."

"The intention of the Oregon Indoor Clean Air Act is to protect all Oregonians, employees, as well as the public, from the dangers of secondhand smoke," he said in written remarks submitted this week to lawmakers.

Burdick called social consumption, particularly smoking as opposed to marijuana-infused edibles, "a really difficult issue" given public health concerns.

Burdick said lawmakers may not be able to settle the issue during the current session. Among the proposals before Oregon lawmakers: establish a task force to study the matter.

"You always hope you can reach some closure on an issue, but I am not sure it's doable," she said.

-- Noelle Crombie

 

[Smoking Lamp]

i think they should be taken to court over the opt out...so in essence they created the problemse ( opt out)....and now are using that as the excuse to raise local taxes....by "luring" them back to the market....cuaght in a landslide ...escape from reality

 

[shaggyballs]

Is this not a great thing?
Legal cannabis is just what everyone wanted right, no jail time associated with Cannabis right?
Now the new laws will state that a violation for unlawful sale or delivery of marijuana paraphernalia. Punishes by maximum of $2,000 fine. if you can't pay you will go to jail.

Wow legal Cannabis what a utopia...lol

No.....Really, I am very sorry to hear they are really stickin' it to the folks in OR.

peace
shag

 

[Sluicebox]

Stupid to have profits sent out of State. Screw their Opt Out now. What of the Med Growers in Opt Out counties? New fees for Med rolled into OLCC, certainly they will raise the price and pass those increased fees onto the Med Growers. Those 4 Rec plants will be a thing of the past as well.

I say cancel the whole f'n thing, it's too f'd up now. Legal in Oregon everywhere for everyone. Grow what you want just like tomatoes, sell to who you want. No fees, no taxes. Legal is legal. If you suck at growing or don't want to grow your own, buy it at a shop, Statewide. Instead charge $10 admission to visit our State and $10,000 to move to our State.

end rant.

 

[socioecologist]

Just received this disconcerting email from my friend Anthony Taylor @ Compassionate Oregon regarding the OLCC's "bump up canopy" rules:

These rules will govern the amount of cannabis an OLCC producer may produce and transfer to a patient.

These rules are the harbinger of what's to come if we allow the legislature integrate OMMP growers with OLCC producers. There is an effort in Salem right now to do just this and OMMP patients and their growers are at risk of the OLCC now being the controlling agency for deciding how much medicine patients will be allowed to get from their grower.

Even scarier is if you are a patient that needs more than 3 pounds per year (limit in this language) you must ask permission from the OHA and OLCC and they will decide if you will be allowed more.

This is unacceptable and we must make sure the separation between OMMP patient providers and OLLC commercial producers remains intact.

Please help us with our efforts to keep this from happening.

Anthony Taylor, President
Compassionate Oregon.

Here is the date and time for the public hearing on these proposed rules.

Date and Time: 2:00 p.m., Monday, March 20, 2017

Location: Oregon Liquor Control Commission

9079 SE McLoughlin Blvd., Portland, OR

 

[Big Sur]

i think they should be taken to court over the opt out...so in essence they created the problemse ( opt out)....and now are using that as the excuse to raise local taxes....by "luring" them back to the market....cuaght in a landslide ...escape from reality

The opt out was created by the legislature in a compromise to appease the counties that did not vote for Measure 91. It would be really hard for the court to overturn Measure 91 and OR SB 3400, and most of the counties where the M91 vote was close put it to a vote again and they voted to opt out (except Linn and Deschutes Counties). And who would sponsor and pay for a challenge in court in one of the banned counties? Lawyers cost a lot of money.

As for allowing for raising local taxes higher, *cough* I think that is just gouging and greed, after seeing that WA state charges so much in sales tax in weed. 37% I think it is, at the point of sale. Though WA state did away with the other grower and distribution taxes that they had in place before July of '16. Here it is insane. Realize also that annual license fees have gone up 5 times what they were originally in Oregon. From $1,000 to $4,750 for rec sales, and up to $5,750 for growing Tier II (just under an acre outdoors, 1/4 acre indoors).

In the end it is a shame that the best outdoor growing areas of eastern Oregon have all opted out, except Deschutes Co. Stupid is as stupid does.

 

[Dankwolf]

Feds Will Step Up Enforcement of Marijuana Laws in States Where Pot Is Legal: White House.



https://www.google.com/amp/ktla.com...-white-house/amp/?client=ms-android-sprint-us

 

[Dankwolf]

opioid use link to marijuana use my ass .

opioid use link to marijuana use my ass .

I have personaly seen the legalization of marijuana cut down hard drug use in my area.i have seen people that have been able to cut out there opioid and or meth use all together due to legalization of marijuana.

Not to mention the way it has cut down on alcohol use . i am not big on going out to the bar but once in awille me and the wife go out for dinner or when freinds come to town and the bars dont have nearly the amount of people as they did prior to legalization of marijuana.

 

[Big Sur]

Yes, weed is impacting the booze industry. And they are aware of it. Seems that some in the White House are interested in increasing the federal law enforcement of weed now. Of course, in this Trump administration, that could mean anything or nothing. Lots of maybes in here... and typical douchebag expertise. Like MJ leads to opioid abuse.

http://fox6now.com/2017/02/23/sean-...enforcement-of-federal-law-against-marijuana/

WASHINGTON – The White House said Thursday it expects law enforcement agents to enforce federal marijuana laws when they come into conflict with states where recreational use of the drug is permitted.
“I do believe you will see greater enforcement of it,” White House press secretary Sean Spicer said regarding federal drug laws, which still list marijuana as an illegal substance.
That’s a reversal from the Obama administration’s stance, which laid out in an official memo that the federal government wouldn’t interfere in states where nonmedical use of marijuana is allowed.
That guidance was issued after two states — Colorado and Washington — voted to legalize recreational use of marijuana. Obama said in the immediate aftermath of those votes that the federal government had “bigger fish to fry” than cracking down on marijuana use in states where it’s considered legal.
Most drug enforcement operations are carried out by state and local authorities, with little involvement by the federal government. Enforcing marijuana laws has been considered a lower priority for federal drug agents, who have remained focused on curbing narcotics trafficking and combating a nationwide epidemic of opioid abuse.
Spicer on Thursday, however, linked marijuana use with the widespread abuse of painkillers, suggesting that allowing recreational use of marijuana could be interpreted as condoning drug use more widely.
“When you see something like the opioid addiction crisis blossoming in so many states around this country, the last thing we should be doing is encouraging people,” Spicer said. “There is still a federal law that we need to abide by when it comes to recreational marijuana and drugs of that nature.”
He was careful to distinguish between use of medical marijuana and recreational marijuana. President Donald Trump, he said, understood that marijuana could help ease suffering for patients with terminal illnesses.
President Trump took varying positions on marijuana during his campaign for president. He said during remarks in June 2015 that legal recreational use was “bad,” adding he felt “strongly about it.”
But later that year he suggested the issue should be decided by individual states and not by the federal government.
“In terms of marijuana and legalization, I think that should be a state issue, state-by-state,” he said in Nevada in October 2015.
He’s remained staunchly supportive of medical marijuana, telling Fox News host Bill O’Reilly he was “in favor of medical marijuana 100%.”
“I know people that have serious problems and they did that they really — it really does help them,” he said.