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Robrites
Potentially 'historic' storms lined up to batter the Northwest
Potentially 'historic' storms lined up to batter the Northwest
"If you've got hatches, batten them down. If you've got gutters, clean them out."
Torrential rains, lashing winds with hurricane-force gusts along the coast and the potential for massive power outages are all headed toward the Pacific Northwest over the next few days with meteorologists saying the deluge headed our direction could be of "historic" proportions.
The looming succession of storms was concerning enough for Cliff Mass, a professor of atmospheric sciences at the University of Washington, to draw parallels between what we are facing over the next few days and the infamous 1962 Columbus Day Storm.
"The Columbus Day Storm had its origin as Typhoon Frieda, taking over a week to get across the Pacific," Mass wrote on his popular weather blog. "Our Saturday storm started as Typhoon Songda, which is now moving towards us as it transforms into an extratropical (midlatitude) storm. Both of these storms retained some of their tropical "juice" with lots of moisture and tight, strong low pressure centers."
The action gets going Wednesday evening with storm clouds bringing light rain to the coast around 5 p.m. and pushing precipitation into the inland valleys by nightfall. That first system is just a warmup, however, as forecasters say the real fireworks (waterworks?) will start on Thursday.
"We will enter a period of extraordinarily active weather with the potential for heavy rain, flooding, and a highly dangerous windstorm with the potential to be an historic event," Mass wrote. "So much intense weather is going to hit us, that I don't know where to start."
We'll start with the rain. After Wednesday's relatively light smattering of showers, a much more powerful system moves in Thursday, then another on Friday and, last but far from least, the remnants of Typhoon Songda are set to smack the region on Saturday.
That parade of storms could bring 4 to 8 inches of rain to the coastal mountains, 3 to 5 inches for the coast and Cascades and 1 to 3 inches in the valleys, including Portland.
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Potentially 'historic' storms lined up to batter the Northwest
"If you've got hatches, batten them down. If you've got gutters, clean them out."
Torrential rains, lashing winds with hurricane-force gusts along the coast and the potential for massive power outages are all headed toward the Pacific Northwest over the next few days with meteorologists saying the deluge headed our direction could be of "historic" proportions.
The looming succession of storms was concerning enough for Cliff Mass, a professor of atmospheric sciences at the University of Washington, to draw parallels between what we are facing over the next few days and the infamous 1962 Columbus Day Storm.
"The Columbus Day Storm had its origin as Typhoon Frieda, taking over a week to get across the Pacific," Mass wrote on his popular weather blog. "Our Saturday storm started as Typhoon Songda, which is now moving towards us as it transforms into an extratropical (midlatitude) storm. Both of these storms retained some of their tropical "juice" with lots of moisture and tight, strong low pressure centers."
The action gets going Wednesday evening with storm clouds bringing light rain to the coast around 5 p.m. and pushing precipitation into the inland valleys by nightfall. That first system is just a warmup, however, as forecasters say the real fireworks (waterworks?) will start on Thursday.
"We will enter a period of extraordinarily active weather with the potential for heavy rain, flooding, and a highly dangerous windstorm with the potential to be an historic event," Mass wrote. "So much intense weather is going to hit us, that I don't know where to start."
We'll start with the rain. After Wednesday's relatively light smattering of showers, a much more powerful system moves in Thursday, then another on Friday and, last but far from least, the remnants of Typhoon Songda are set to smack the region on Saturday.
That parade of storms could bring 4 to 8 inches of rain to the coastal mountains, 3 to 5 inches for the coast and Cascades and 1 to 3 inches in the valleys, including Portland.
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PDX Dopesmoker
Active member
Yeah, but it wasn't the kind of labor you would think, it was the effort of running around trying to get dispensaries to carry his seeds. Its seems that seeds just aren't a major sale item in dispensaries & the seeds that do move in the shops are the same ones that sell big on the internet. TGA will sell a lot more seed than someone you never heard of who's been working on local outdoor strains. When I worked in a dispensary we would go weeks between seed sales.
If you're selling seed packs to a retailer then you're going to sell maybe $100 worth per shop every few months if you're lucky.
The breeding end of the operation was something he was doing anyway and he is pretty enthusiastic about having his locally acclimatized gear available to the Oregon growing public. So much so that he gave me hundreds of free seed packs to pass out back in March. I spread them as far and wide as I could, people who would otherwise have never considered growing their own will often give it a shot if you put some free seeds in their pocket.
Whole valley is reeking tonight folks. I tried to get some fiskars a couple days ago and they were all sold out. Counter person said "ya it's harvest time and we're out, more on the way." Went back when new shipment came in and they only ordered 6 pair. Pft. went to H Depot where they had 40 pair. In case you're looking, try there.
Yah, harvest time. I broke one pair of scissors already. My hands have been fighting the resins and sticky oil handling all the buds. But I am through trimming buds now. Finished today. Now its time to dry and cure. And re-veg my plants under lights. Let the rains come!
As for seeds, I just buy clones. They are known strains, females, rooted, and $10 on CL. I also bought one at a dispensary for $15 before the tax kicked in at the beginning of the year. Guaranteed and inspected to be bug and disease free. OG Kush.
As for making money growing weed in Oregon, I have looked into all avenues, but they keep adding more and more regulations and raising the bars for both rec and medical. The OLCC has its hands on the control levers now. Although outdoor medical grows do not require the extremes that rec grows do, like a 10 ft perimeter wall, a business license and approved plan, or a security camera and alarm system, or a Marijuana Tracking System with UID bar code tags, or hefty annual grow license fees of up to $5,750 a year (it was supposed to be $1,000 a year), and county and city approval which will not be sorted out in many cases until the election in November... it still requires grow permits and modest fees, written tracking and reporting, inspections, commercial locks, water rights, testing, packaging, labeling, and is limited by zoning.
In the end you are far better off just growing the 4 plants w/o any restrictions in Oregon, other than it has to be out of public view. Or grow 6 or 12 mature plants and any number of foot tall or less clones with an OMMP card for yourself/selves on your own or rented property. At least we can do that here. In WA they could not grow at all w/o a WMMP card, but as of July 1, they can grow 4 plants with just a doctor's Rx now (no need to register with the state of Washington, unless you want to grow more than the 4 medical plants). In Colorado and Alaska they can only grow 6 immature, or 3 mature and 3 immature rec plants at a time. I am not sure what their medical grow limits are there.
As for seeds, I just buy clones. They are known strains, females, rooted, and $10 on CL. I also bought one at a dispensary for $15 before the tax kicked in at the beginning of the year. Guaranteed and inspected to be bug and disease free. OG Kush.
As for making money growing weed in Oregon, I have looked into all avenues, but they keep adding more and more regulations and raising the bars for both rec and medical. The OLCC has its hands on the control levers now. Although outdoor medical grows do not require the extremes that rec grows do, like a 10 ft perimeter wall, a business license and approved plan, or a security camera and alarm system, or a Marijuana Tracking System with UID bar code tags, or hefty annual grow license fees of up to $5,750 a year (it was supposed to be $1,000 a year), and county and city approval which will not be sorted out in many cases until the election in November... it still requires grow permits and modest fees, written tracking and reporting, inspections, commercial locks, water rights, testing, packaging, labeling, and is limited by zoning.
In the end you are far better off just growing the 4 plants w/o any restrictions in Oregon, other than it has to be out of public view. Or grow 6 or 12 mature plants and any number of foot tall or less clones with an OMMP card for yourself/selves on your own or rented property. At least we can do that here. In WA they could not grow at all w/o a WMMP card, but as of July 1, they can grow 4 plants with just a doctor's Rx now (no need to register with the state of Washington, unless you want to grow more than the 4 medical plants). In Colorado and Alaska they can only grow 6 immature, or 3 mature and 3 immature rec plants at a time. I am not sure what their medical grow limits are there.
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Robrites
Wet Buds - Wild Winds
Wet Buds - Wild Winds
Wet Buds - Wild Winds
Dankwolf
Active member
What cut of og did you get ? I got the fire og cut and after 2 indoor attemps i composted it . it was a pm nightmare took my hole garden out twice . smelled like lemon pinesol . will not grow again
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Robrites
Licensed Marijuana Retailers Listed on OLCC Website
Licensed Marijuana Retailers Listed on OLCC Website
Licensed Marijuana Retailers Listed on OLCC Website
Aota1
Member
If I ran one of the four Orelap accredited and olcc licensed labs, I'd make damn sure that I was staffed enough to run 24/7. The flower tests are a few hundred a pop but the extract tests is another ball game. I heard a quote, which I'd definitely want to confirm, of a couple thousand for the intensive triple testing done on extracts. Crazy
socioecologist
Member
We just got a quote back on 10lbs of CO2 oil @ $24k. Ummmmmm....fuck that.
Aota1
Member
OHA & OLCC Request to Marijuana Industry Stakeholders: Provide Input on Concentrate, Extract and Edible Processor Testing
ACTION REQUIRED: Submit Proposed Solutions by Monday October 17th
The regulated marijuana industry currently faces a challenge related to balancing affordable testing that’s accessible to processors, and the capacity of labs and their availability to conduct testing unique to processors.
The Oregon Health Authority and Oregon Liquor Control Commission are seeking specific solutions from effected stakeholders on practical approaches to mitigate the impact of transitioning to comprehensive marijuana testing protocols that protect consumers, while maintaining the testing requirements and stabilizing the business operating environment in the long term.
The objective is to ensure a balance between public health and safety while maintaining the regulated industry’s economic viability. The industry and regulators remain steadfast in acknowledging the importance of and the support for robust product testing.
The OHA and OLCC would like specific solutions that fit within the accreditation and testing framework and help provide short term relief to the industry without substantial delays to the overall implementation of product testing.
The solutions should focus on testing, sampling and product validation; the agencies will address long term testing policy issues at a later date.
The following points affecting both industry segments were discussed during a meeting between industry representatives and the regulatory agencies.
Current Issues
Processors: Concentrates, extracts, edibles
Process validation and sample number; batch size reduction
Lab capacity
Lab scheduling/business decisions
Cost of tests under new standards, specifically validation
More resources to ORELAP to speed up accreditation
Bottleneck is a barrier to business development/general operation
Service for process validation is not a first come first service system
Training and communication
Labs
Late training (for sampling)
Traceability for edibles (OHA)
Increasing costs of tests to meet new standards
Extensive pesticide analyte list increases lab equip cost
QC and instrument time
Some licensees (producers) reluctant to test product at first
Lab/regulatory communication to licensees
Process validation
Training and communication (e.g. FAQs needed); OHA website updated
More resources to ORELAP
The agencies are most interested in considering ideas for actionable changes that will help concentrate, extract and edible manufacturers move product to market. Below are some suggested solutions offered by the industry.
Prospective Solutions
Reduce samples required in process validation by x number (e.g. 20 to 5); batch size reduction
Give x number of days window for licensees to meet process validation standards
Hire third party vendors to complete sampling accreditation
Licensee and lab staff pick out samples together
Licensee designs process; ORELAP validates
ORELAP provides more clear guidance on “voluntary” process validation
Change rounding policies
One process validation study per quarter
2+ years for process validation
Please structure your proposal using this format:
Identify your Industry segment: (Processor: Concentrate, Extracts, Edibles; Lab); or other license category
Define the problem statement (Identify the specific challenge)
Identify key solution points (Be technically specific about changes to testing requirements and protocols, provide necessary citations to the existing testing rule if applicable)
If you address more than one problem, separate each problem and its proposed solution.
Stakeholders should submit their proposals by 5 p.m. on Monday October 17, 2016.
Proposals should be submitted by email with the subject heading: Processor/Lab Input Requested: Submitter’s Name or Business Name.
Attachments are acceptable. The email should be sent to [email protected].
For More Information:
www.marijuana.oregon.gov
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 503-872-5000
Toll Free: 800-452-6522
PLEASE DO NOT REPLY DIRECTLY TO THIS EMAIL
The OLCC distributed more than $436 million in the last two years to Oregon's General Fund, Cities, Counties, and Drug/Alcohol Abuse Programs. This money helps fund essential services such as schools, police and healthcare for Oregonians. See the distribution of dollars to Oregon on OLCC's Website.
CONNECT WITH US!
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ACTION REQUIRED: Submit Proposed Solutions by Monday October 17th
The regulated marijuana industry currently faces a challenge related to balancing affordable testing that’s accessible to processors, and the capacity of labs and their availability to conduct testing unique to processors.
The Oregon Health Authority and Oregon Liquor Control Commission are seeking specific solutions from effected stakeholders on practical approaches to mitigate the impact of transitioning to comprehensive marijuana testing protocols that protect consumers, while maintaining the testing requirements and stabilizing the business operating environment in the long term.
The objective is to ensure a balance between public health and safety while maintaining the regulated industry’s economic viability. The industry and regulators remain steadfast in acknowledging the importance of and the support for robust product testing.
The OHA and OLCC would like specific solutions that fit within the accreditation and testing framework and help provide short term relief to the industry without substantial delays to the overall implementation of product testing.
The solutions should focus on testing, sampling and product validation; the agencies will address long term testing policy issues at a later date.
The following points affecting both industry segments were discussed during a meeting between industry representatives and the regulatory agencies.
Current Issues
Processors: Concentrates, extracts, edibles
Process validation and sample number; batch size reduction
Lab capacity
Lab scheduling/business decisions
Cost of tests under new standards, specifically validation
More resources to ORELAP to speed up accreditation
Bottleneck is a barrier to business development/general operation
Service for process validation is not a first come first service system
Training and communication
Labs
Late training (for sampling)
Traceability for edibles (OHA)
Increasing costs of tests to meet new standards
Extensive pesticide analyte list increases lab equip cost
QC and instrument time
Some licensees (producers) reluctant to test product at first
Lab/regulatory communication to licensees
Process validation
Training and communication (e.g. FAQs needed); OHA website updated
More resources to ORELAP
The agencies are most interested in considering ideas for actionable changes that will help concentrate, extract and edible manufacturers move product to market. Below are some suggested solutions offered by the industry.
Prospective Solutions
Reduce samples required in process validation by x number (e.g. 20 to 5); batch size reduction
Give x number of days window for licensees to meet process validation standards
Hire third party vendors to complete sampling accreditation
Licensee and lab staff pick out samples together
Licensee designs process; ORELAP validates
ORELAP provides more clear guidance on “voluntary” process validation
Change rounding policies
One process validation study per quarter
2+ years for process validation
Please structure your proposal using this format:
Identify your Industry segment: (Processor: Concentrate, Extracts, Edibles; Lab); or other license category
Define the problem statement (Identify the specific challenge)
Identify key solution points (Be technically specific about changes to testing requirements and protocols, provide necessary citations to the existing testing rule if applicable)
If you address more than one problem, separate each problem and its proposed solution.
Stakeholders should submit their proposals by 5 p.m. on Monday October 17, 2016.
Proposals should be submitted by email with the subject heading: Processor/Lab Input Requested: Submitter’s Name or Business Name.
Attachments are acceptable. The email should be sent to [email protected].
For More Information:
www.marijuana.oregon.gov
Email: [email protected]
Phone: 503-872-5000
Toll Free: 800-452-6522
PLEASE DO NOT REPLY DIRECTLY TO THIS EMAIL
The OLCC distributed more than $436 million in the last two years to Oregon's General Fund, Cities, Counties, and Drug/Alcohol Abuse Programs. This money helps fund essential services such as schools, police and healthcare for Oregonians. See the distribution of dollars to Oregon on OLCC's Website.
CONNECT WITH US!
SUBSCRIBER SERVICES:
Manage Preferences | Help | Unsubscribe
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Dankwolf
Active member
That is fucked .
That pricing is ridiculous. Sounds more and more everyday like organized crime. Labs not allowed to open due to not being accredited. Bottlenecks in testing, tested product hard to obtain even with increased pricing. Packaging changes, you name it. This has to be the biggest cluster fk since the original vote.
On the other hand a few well positioned and connected individuals stand to make a small fortune due to the bottleneck. Conspiracy theorists may begin to think this has been a deliberate failure. Ensuring less resistance for a huge company to take over the whole state.
On the other hand a few well positioned and connected individuals stand to make a small fortune due to the bottleneck. Conspiracy theorists may begin to think this has been a deliberate failure. Ensuring less resistance for a huge company to take over the whole state.
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Robrites
Wet buds and 54mph gusts. One plant on its side this morning.... have to drive to check the rest.
Dankwolf
Active member
My freinds in alaska and Washington said this would happen . theorizing it would go same way here to draw out the underground big wigs with out lifting a finger then take them out and run it trough the state and big farma that greased pockets. Yup sounds about right lol.
