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Yeah, growing up and living here my whole life, I can definetly say I have had to combat pm and botrytis my fair share.
I agree neem oil is the most productive treatment.
And I agree with your tactics, but I would like to add a method I believe anyone around here can accomplish if they do have a rec lisence or even just a 24 plant med.
Take cuts of everything before they go into flower outdoors.
Test all plants after harvest.
Multiply many cuts of the plant with least mold.
Wild fire the cuts to everyone in the area.
Mtzioncollective is doing this in California and I highly applaud him for useing his 300 plant count to help his whole region.
Shuttle breeding is an effective way to create resistant strains
Norman Borlaug got a noble peace prize for shuttle breeding wheat varieties and saving millions from hunger. I wonder what the world would be like if he kept those resistant varieties for himself.
To answer your question: yes! Why else would you breed is my question? For only yourself and to just hand heirlooms to your kid ?
The goal of a breeder to me is sharing good creations with all of my friends, and anyone they call friend. Sure, you could look at them as competition, I think of it more like sharing with my culture.
If you make good creations, sure, many will make f2s and start there own company. If every breeder kept good genetics for themselves all there would be is bunk yielding swap seeds on the market.
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Robrites
Marijuana businesses push back on Oregon's testing rules, ask for delay
Marijuana businesses push back on Oregon's testing rules, ask for delay
Some makers of marijuana concentrates, extracts and edibles are sounding dire alarms about how the state's new testing rules are holding back their products from the market and jeopardizing their businesses.
They complain that the state lacks approved labs to carry out all of the required tests, causing long delays, forcing them to mull layoffs and generally leaving them out of the state's new recreational marijuana program that opened this month.
The state has 18 accredited and approved labs for marijuana; only four are approved to test for pesticides, a hallmark of Oregon's marijuana regulation.
"There is a fundamental failure going on here," said attorney Amy Margolis, executive director of the Oregon Cannabis Association, a trade group. "I am getting countdown clocks from clients saying, 'This is how many days I have until I have to shut down.'"
The criticisms have pushed Oregon's pot regulators to convene a meeting Wednesday to evaluate the problems. The Oregon Liquor Control Commission, in charge of the state's recreational marijuana sales, processing and production, wants to sort "fact from fiction," said the agency's executive director, Steven Marks.
"We won't give up on the state's goal to have in place the most rigorously tested protocol in place in the country," Marks said Tuesday.
It'll be early next year before the industry fully adapts to the new rules, he predicted.
"It's not going to be a perfect line," he said. "There will be a lot of nips and tucks to get through it."
That's little consolation to processors like Trista Okel, owner of Empower Oil, a Clackamas County-based company that makes topical products. She said only a couple of the approved labs even returned her recent phone calls. They warned they are weeks out from being able to test her oils.
She said she's stopped making most of her line. "At this point I am waiting to see what happens," she said.
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Marijuana businesses push back on Oregon's testing rules, ask for delay
Some makers of marijuana concentrates, extracts and edibles are sounding dire alarms about how the state's new testing rules are holding back their products from the market and jeopardizing their businesses.
They complain that the state lacks approved labs to carry out all of the required tests, causing long delays, forcing them to mull layoffs and generally leaving them out of the state's new recreational marijuana program that opened this month.
The state has 18 accredited and approved labs for marijuana; only four are approved to test for pesticides, a hallmark of Oregon's marijuana regulation.
"There is a fundamental failure going on here," said attorney Amy Margolis, executive director of the Oregon Cannabis Association, a trade group. "I am getting countdown clocks from clients saying, 'This is how many days I have until I have to shut down.'"
The criticisms have pushed Oregon's pot regulators to convene a meeting Wednesday to evaluate the problems. The Oregon Liquor Control Commission, in charge of the state's recreational marijuana sales, processing and production, wants to sort "fact from fiction," said the agency's executive director, Steven Marks.
"We won't give up on the state's goal to have in place the most rigorously tested protocol in place in the country," Marks said Tuesday.
It'll be early next year before the industry fully adapts to the new rules, he predicted.
"It's not going to be a perfect line," he said. "There will be a lot of nips and tucks to get through it."
That's little consolation to processors like Trista Okel, owner of Empower Oil, a Clackamas County-based company that makes topical products. She said only a couple of the approved labs even returned her recent phone calls. They warned they are weeks out from being able to test her oils.
She said she's stopped making most of her line. "At this point I am waiting to see what happens," she said.
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PDX Dopesmoker
Active member
I know a guy who used to do that, but he didn't end up making much money at it so its not his focus anymore.
socioecologist
Member
Part of the problem with breeding for early flowering is a lack of any published research on the topic. Hopefully that will change soon.
For what it's worth, the early flowering trait seems achievable via two separate pathways--one is monogenic, the other is polygenic. The monogenic route is easy to introduce, but impossible to uniformly maintain after the F1 generation. We know this pathway well and are using it to create very early finishing hybrids of our favorite ultra high CBD hemp plants. It's real, it works, and introducing it produces a host of other positive heterotic features.
The polygenic pathway...is theoretical at this point and will likely require many more generations of inbreeding to ID. We've seen it expressed in large F2 grows, which is I why I believe in it. It seems similar to gene regulation networks responsible for yield and total cannabinoid content--i.e. causally complicated (and still theoretical!), but attainable as a breeding goal through proper selection and inbreeding. Not 100% sure on this, but time--and good work by geneticists and their robots--will tell.
PSA: Batten down the hatches folks, the incoming storm is going to be hellacious. Getting sick to my stomach thinking about the damage it is about to inflict on everything we haven't cut yet.
For what it's worth, the early flowering trait seems achievable via two separate pathways--one is monogenic, the other is polygenic. The monogenic route is easy to introduce, but impossible to uniformly maintain after the F1 generation. We know this pathway well and are using it to create very early finishing hybrids of our favorite ultra high CBD hemp plants. It's real, it works, and introducing it produces a host of other positive heterotic features.
The polygenic pathway...is theoretical at this point and will likely require many more generations of inbreeding to ID. We've seen it expressed in large F2 grows, which is I why I believe in it. It seems similar to gene regulation networks responsible for yield and total cannabinoid content--i.e. causally complicated (and still theoretical!), but attainable as a breeding goal through proper selection and inbreeding. Not 100% sure on this, but time--and good work by geneticists and their robots--will tell.
PSA: Batten down the hatches folks, the incoming storm is going to be hellacious. Getting sick to my stomach thinking about the damage it is about to inflict on everything we haven't cut yet.
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Robrites
How do you know when hemp is ready to harvest?
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Robrites
Here comes the rain
Here comes the rain
28 and frost here this morning.
Rain and high winds on the way.
7-10 inches of rain possible on the coast as 3 major storms hit this week.
Are you going to harvest today or try to wait it out?
Here comes the rain
28 and frost here this morning.
Rain and high winds on the way.
7-10 inches of rain possible on the coast as 3 major storms hit this week.
Are you going to harvest today or try to wait it out?
Too labor intensive.
socioecologist
Member
Depends on what you are growing for (grain, fiber, etc.); we grow for cannabinoids and terpenes, so it's the same as any other traditional cannabis grower.
I like my hemp to look like your purple lady
. We're getting consistent 15% average CBD on these and they smell like grape candy / sweet tarts...some of the best tasting herb I've ever grown, but it won't get you high.
Dankwolf
Active member
Any know what it takes to sell to dispensery if you are a ommp card holder ? A to z ? I am interested in side income to cover cost of lights, fertalizer, labor . i am not looking to make it rich just supplemental even if not coving all cost . i have stoped at a few dispenserys and tgey want what i could offer but i have no idea what is involved in the proccess and cant seem to get a strait answer any where ?
Some could say breeding isn't very profitable in the first place....breeding is very labor intensive, no matter what end goal you have (unless you just a chucker).
Not sure why breeding for resistance would be any less profitable than a different goal trait.......
Sure you could act like testing fees would rack up, but you could breed for rot resistance with your eyes and nose... A lab test isnt detrimental.
Not sure why breeding for resistance would be any less profitable than a different goal trait.......
Sure you could act like testing fees would rack up, but you could breed for rot resistance with your eyes and nose... A lab test isnt detrimental.
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Robrites
Start here http://public.health.oregon.gov/Dis...ease/MedicalMarijuanaProgram/Pages/top20.aspx
A call to prospective dispensaries might be helpful.
Rough rundown, this is the new stuff under HB 3400, and does not apply to grandfathered grow sites with OMMP card holders which fall under the old laws:
As of April 6 (and in some cases, June 1) of 2016, the OMMP grow laws have changed. You need to register with the state as an OMMP grow site and pay the $200 registration fee per grow card (even if you have an OMMP card already) if you want to sell any OMMP weed or grow for someone else. The limit is 6 mature plants per grow card. I believe the limits for the number of immature clones under a foot tall are now unrestricted with any number of OMMP cards. Regardless of how many OMMP grow cards that you have, if you are inside city limits and in a residential zone, the grow limit is 12 mature plants (with 2 grow cards). Outside of a residential zone, the new grow limit is 48 mature plants (with 8 grow cards). OHA may inspect any grow sites with over 12 plants. Any plants grown must be out of public view (public view does not include a neighbor on private property) and restricted to public access (meaning a fenced and gated yard, or grown indoors). You must have a water right or be exempt to water your OMMP (or recreational grow license) plants now. Most properties with a permitted well are water right exempt in Oregon and you can pump 5,000 gallons a day for commercial purposes. You must also have commercial grade locks for access to any place that you grow indoors, store your cured weed, or root and grow clones.
As an OMMP grower for anyone else, or growing more than 12 plants, or selling OMMP weed or plants to an OHA processor or OHA dispensary, you must now file monthly reports with the state. They are due by the 10th of every month. They require a complete inventory of the number of plants, clones, and the amount of weed, seeds or plants, and the amounts transferred to a dispensary or processor in the previous month.
With the cost of lights, electricity and other indoor grow costs, it is unlikely that you will regain your investment growing indoors and selling low volume OMMP weed. I looked into this a while ago. The only way for me to get ahead selling OMMP weed is growing outdoors. Sunlight if free, but the weather here is so variable from year to year. Last year outdoor growing was the best in over a decade. Low rainfall through October, warm Indian summer. This year is one of the worst with early rains and cold weather, starting in September.
As of April 6 (and in some cases, June 1) of 2016, the OMMP grow laws have changed. You need to register with the state as an OMMP grow site and pay the $200 registration fee per grow card (even if you have an OMMP card already) if you want to sell any OMMP weed or grow for someone else. The limit is 6 mature plants per grow card. I believe the limits for the number of immature clones under a foot tall are now unrestricted with any number of OMMP cards. Regardless of how many OMMP grow cards that you have, if you are inside city limits and in a residential zone, the grow limit is 12 mature plants (with 2 grow cards). Outside of a residential zone, the new grow limit is 48 mature plants (with 8 grow cards). OHA may inspect any grow sites with over 12 plants. Any plants grown must be out of public view (public view does not include a neighbor on private property) and restricted to public access (meaning a fenced and gated yard, or grown indoors). You must have a water right or be exempt to water your OMMP (or recreational grow license) plants now. Most properties with a permitted well are water right exempt in Oregon and you can pump 5,000 gallons a day for commercial purposes. You must also have commercial grade locks for access to any place that you grow indoors, store your cured weed, or root and grow clones.
As an OMMP grower for anyone else, or growing more than 12 plants, or selling OMMP weed or plants to an OHA processor or OHA dispensary, you must now file monthly reports with the state. They are due by the 10th of every month. They require a complete inventory of the number of plants, clones, and the amount of weed, seeds or plants, and the amounts transferred to a dispensary or processor in the previous month.
With the cost of lights, electricity and other indoor grow costs, it is unlikely that you will regain your investment growing indoors and selling low volume OMMP weed. I looked into this a while ago. The only way for me to get ahead selling OMMP weed is growing outdoors. Sunlight if free, but the weather here is so variable from year to year. Last year outdoor growing was the best in over a decade. Low rainfall through October, warm Indian summer. This year is one of the worst with early rains and cold weather, starting in September.
Dankwolf
Active member
Thank you for the run down . vary appreciated by me and i am sure many more that have not wanted to ask . yes this year sucked bad development has been super slow and small .
Lab testing, packaging and labeling are the other big issues. As of October 1 of 2016, you must use UPC labels approved by the OLCC in order to sell weed to any OHA dispensary or processor. W/o an approved OLCC label, they cannot accept it. Also you must use OLCC approved child resistant packaging for your weed. You do not have to use the new Cannabis Tracking System for OMMP grows and sales though. The rules for packaging and labeling are covered here:
http://www.oregon.gov/olcc/marijuana/Pages/PackagingLabelingPreApproval.aspx
Testing is another requirement as of Oct. 1. All weed that you sell to a OHA dispensary or processor will have to be tested by an OLCC licensed lab (this does not apply to weed delivered to a designated patient for whom you are growing). Right now there are only a few labs certified and licensed by the OLCC to test weed, and there is a bottleneck in testing. So they have relaxed the requirements for the time being. There are also temporary rules in effect until March of 2017, so look here to find all the details (yes, its very complicated):
http://public.health.oregon.gov/Dis...ease/MedicalMarijuanaProgram/Pages/legal.aspx
Basically, as of October, 2016 all rec weed sold to a retail shop, or rec weed processor and all OMMP weed sold to OHA dispensaries and OHA processors must be tested for pesticides, % moisture content, % THC and CBD content, and microbiological content (mold, mildew, rot). Tested lots must be the same strain grown in proximity, harvested at the same time and dried and cured. Then the lots must be packaged and stored in a secure place while the lot is tested. Test samples must be packaged and labeled, and sent to a certified lab. Once certified, the lot must be labeled with the lab results on the lot package. Lots cannot be larger than 10 pounds in size.
