The Oregon Weed Thread -Grows, News and Laws and Whatever

[Aota1]

I don't know how legit it is but as I was leaving work today a seed vendor I know came by. We were talking on the way out and he said the olcc was inspecting a local lab today and actually shut them down. Up until I heard that everyone else has just had to make whatever corrections were necessary and submit the corrected issues. Crazy if true. Especially because I have flower in stock that was tested there yesterday! Can't wait to hear more details

 

[Phenome]

Look into BT if you've never heard of it.

Look into BT if you've never heard of it.

Caterpillars GRRR. Never had em before. Just one plant so far.

"Certain factors should be considered when using Bt to achieve maximum success. 1) Highly alkaline water or pesticides (pH 8-11) should not be mixed with Bt because the efficacy will be greatly reduced . 2) Freezing or excessive heat (110°F) during storage should be avoided. 3) Bt should be applied against small caterpillars and before plants are extensively damaged. 4) Thorough coverage of foliage is important. 5) Reapplication of Bt in 3 to 14 days is often necessary in order to kill any newly hatched larvae and cover recently emerged foliage."
Also, sunlight degrades bt, so morning or preferably night time application

 

[Robrites]

"Certain factors should be considered when using Bt to achieve maximum success. 1) Highly alkaline water or pesticides (pH 8-11) should not be mixed with Bt because the efficacy will be greatly reduced . 2) Freezing or excessive heat (110°F) during storage should be avoided. 3) Bt should be applied against small caterpillars and before plants are extensively damaged. 4) Thorough coverage of foliage is important. 5) Reapplication of Bt in 3 to 14 days is often necessary in order to kill any newly hatched larvae and cover recently emerged foliage."
Also, sunlight degrades bt, so morning or preferably night time application

Thankfully my plants are scattered this year. So far, only one has them. We had a good rain last night though so I will remain vigilant.

 

[Robrites]

New Marijuana Licensing Forms Available from OLCC

New Marijuana Licensing Forms Available from OLCC

New Marijuana Licensing Forms Available from OLCC
Product Inventory Transfer, Retail Medical Grade Sales

The Oregon Liquor Control Commission has published additional supplemental forms that some Recreational Marijuana Program licensees may be required to complete.

The forms include:

Retailer Inventory Transfer Request

The Retailer Inventory Transfer Request is for an applicant for an OLCC Recreational Marijuana Retailer License requesting the transfer of inventory from a registered medical marijuana dispensary.

PRD (Person Responsible for a Marijuana Dispensary) Information Disclosure

This form is required if there are PRDs in addition to the primary PRD. This form is submitted along with the Retailer Inventory Transfer Request.



Processor Inventory Transfer Request

The Processor Inventory Transfer Request is for an applicant for an OLCC Recreational Marijuana Retailer Processor requesting the transfer of inventory from a registered medical marijuana processing site.

PRP (Person Responsible for a Marijuana Grow) Information Disclosure

This form is required if there are PRPs in addition to the primary PRP. This form is submitted along with the Processor Inventory Transfer Request.



Sale of Marijuana for Medical Purposes

This form is required of OLCC licensees (processors, wholesalers, retailers) that would like to sell medical grade cannabinoid products to Oregon Medical Marijuana Program cardholders tax-free. Medical grade products exceed the concentration limits established for recreational marijuana products.

Acceptance of this form by the OLCC also will allow a retailer to sell marijuana flower to the OMMP cardholders tax-free.



For more information, call 503-872-5000, or visit marijuana.oregon.gov.

 

[Aota1]

We passed our olcc inspection yesterday no problem. I'm so glad it's done and I can focus on mass buying until October 1.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

We passed our olcc inspection yesterday no problem. I'm so glad it's done and I can focus on mass buying until October 1.

Tell me more about this dispensaries are focused on mass buying until Oct 1

 

[Aota1]

The OLCC will allow existing Oregon Medical Marijuana Program (OMMP) dispensaries to transfer their inventory acquired before October 1, 2016, if they become an OLCC licensee.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Thanks, we've got all sort of extra around, but haven't really had good experiences with dispensaries in the past, do you think we might have better luck over the next week or so?
I should probably read the forum rules before posting a biz question, but instead I'm gonna post it first and edit it later if it turns out that I need to.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

HEMP STALK!!!!

http://hempstalk.org/site/

Weed at the other end of Waterfront park!

 

[Aota1]

Lots of producers are prepared to go rec and have their attorneys ready to go but the big, fairly -well substantiated rumor is that the olcc will give a last minute reprieve/grace period at the end of this month and allow us to continue buying until January 1 when everyone needs to be licensed. We'll see

 

[Aota1]

I'm sure every store's buyer operates slightly different from one another but I've had mostly positive experiences since I've started developing relationships with people. There's so many growers and a lot of great herb but the whole thing comes down to details like fair pricing, respect, and consistency. Lots of factors obviously but I feel good about the quality I've been able to get as well as cost

 

[Sluicebox]

Lots of producers are prepared to go rec and have their attorneys ready to go but the big, fairly -well substantiated rumor is that the olcc will give a last minute reprieve/grace period at the end of this month and allow us to continue buying until January 1 when everyone needs to be licensed. We'll see

Hate to borrow trouble but I doubt it. Seems the goal has been and still is to destroy the medical end of this. What better way than to starve out the Med Growers right at harvest time. It's not an accident they picked Oct 1 for a deadline when most will be chopping by the 15th.

Currently the Elite have the market cornered. If you doubt me look into the bs Marion County pulled.

I would love to see the extension, though those who are in now will do everything they can to prevent it.

Lots of bs games going on here for instance. A very well off rec crew rented a trimming machine that someone had busted his ass to design and patent. This crew had a team of machinists and welders copy the design and built themselves several. I guess that's the way of the game some may say. Personally I think it's completely f'd up.

 

[Robrites]

Oregon Cannabis is Headed for a Tough Month Because of an Obscure Agency and Strict N

Oregon Cannabis is Headed for a Tough Month Because of an Obscure Agency and Strict N

Oregon Cannabis is Headed for a Tough Month Because of an Obscure Agency and Strict New Rules

Unless a dozen more labs are magically approved in the next week, you can expect a very different selection on dispensary shelves this fall.



Few people know what the Oregon Environmental Laboratory Accreditation Program is, but it's about to have a profound effect on the state's cannabis industry.

On Aug. 26, Gary K. Ward, administrator of the agency, known as ORELAP, sent a memo to industry insiders saying his organization was "on the precipice of collapse." Come Oct. 1, that collapse could cause a bottleneck that results in empty dispensary shelves as massive amounts of freshly harvested, outdoor-grown flower sits in storage. The fallout of that collapse could even extend to the safety of the drinking water at Oregon schools.

Here's the situation: Rules adopted by the Oregon Health Authority state that any cannabis products transferred from producers to shops must be tested through newly approved labs verified by ORELAP. As it stands, only two labs have been approved, and there are thousands of growers funneling their product through them.

ORELAP has only a handful of employees, and recent issues with air contaminants and lead-tainted drinking water in public schools have kept it busy with labs not involving cannabis. The OHA set the Oct. 1 deadline for lab certification, but it didn't give ORELAP more resources. In Ward's memo, first reported by The Oregonian, he said he requested three full-time employees to handle cannabis-testing lab accreditation, and received none.

Accreditation requires the review of hundreds of pages outlining equipment and processes, as well as a thorough inspection of the lab itself. Approved labs will have to be audited in a few months, and those needing improvements will require extra inspections to verify that updates have been made. That means the overall process of approving a lab's setup to analyze potency, mold, pesticides and residual solvents in processed oils can take several weeks.

Add the fact that the OHA is requiring more from certified labs. New sampling requirements multiply the number of tests each grower will have to perform for a single crop. Each strain must have its own set of test results, and a new test for every batch of 10 pounds within that strain.

If you're growing a few wimpy Sour Diesel plants, you'll only need to pay for one test. However, most growers who transfer product to dispensaries have a varied strain menu, meaning multiple tests every harvest, and multiple tests per strain if you've got hearty plants.

Croptober is coming, but while sun-grown cannabis is typically harvested once a year in the fall, indoor grows or greenhouses using light-deprivation techniques can harvest their plants four times a year. The longer it takes labs to do their jobs, the longer pot will be waiting in line to get tested.

Nelson & Company Organics, a longtime medical marijuana farm in the final stages of inspection before recreational approval from the Oregon Liquor Control Commission, is concerned about the fast-approaching pileup of untested weed.

"This could push everything forward," says an employee of Nelson & Company. "There are already hundreds of pounds harvested and ready from recreational growers who haven't been able to transfer anything to shops yet. None of that can move until the labs are sorted out."

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[Aota1]

There's definitely going to be a bottleneck with labs and getting product tested. They have to spend incredible amounts of time at each one for a single approval. They need to hire and train 10 more inspectors asap. The extension rumor has been told to me by at least 5-6 different vendors and the last one said his wife actually works for olcc. It's not like outdoor takes a tremendous amount of shelf space. I'm not sure the October 1 timing was totally about outdoor harvest. We've been in 'early rec sales' for a year. People are dragging feet and resistant to getting licensed for sure. Sluicebox that trimmer story is fucked and I see first hand the big ganja influence and market share and they do not fuck around. The sheer size of a few producers/growers I'm aware of is insane.

 

[Aota1]

Companies who have 10-20 licenses

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

Amongst many other interesting things, Jinxproof from TGA is down at hempstalk selling seeds until 10pm today.

 

[Sluicebox]

I'm holding out hope that high quality will be hard to achieve with mass production. I'm hoping that the small micro growers will offer connoisseur quality to the market. Cream rises to the top so to speak. Problem is mass production will severely drive down prices across the board.

 

[Robrites]

Oct. 1 deadlines for marijuana testing, packaging could face delay

Oct. 1 deadlines for marijuana testing, packaging could face delay

A marijuana industry group wants Oregon lawmakers to push back Oct. 1 deadlines for the state's new cannabis testing, packaging and labeling rules by at least 30 days, calling them an insurmountable challenge.

Many marijuana businesses simply aren't ready to comply, said Amy Margolis, a Portland lawyer who represents the Oregon Cannabis Association. In the meantime, the state should allow dispensaries to continue taking in products tested and packaged under current standards.

"This extension is crucial for the survival of many, many businesses," she told Oregon lawmakers last week.

Legislators on the joint committee that oversees the rules seemed receptive to the idea.

Sen. Floyd Prozanski, D-Eugene, took the suggestion further, saying he supports a 90-day extension of the deadlines.

"We have actually in good faith tried to get everything together and we know it didn't come together," he said, referring to getting enough labs online to process marijuana so it can move into stores. Moving the deadline to the end of the year offers the industry a "clear break point," he said.

Labeling, testing and packaging are key components of Oregon's efforts to address public health and safety concerns about recreational marijuana.

The Oct. 1 deadline for implementing the policies was initially intended to coincide with the opening of the recreational marijuana market under the authority of the Oregon Liquor Control Commission. But instead of opening stores at the same time, the liquor control commission now plans a gradual rollout of retailers beginning next month.

Cameron Yee, owner of Lunchbox Alchemy, an edible and extract maker in Bend, recently halted production and laid off 10 people while he waits for his packaging to move through the state's approval process.

He tossed $8,000 of packaging that didn't meet state requirements.

"It's a disaster," Yee said. "We are trying. We are not going to make it by Oct. 1. We are not going to have product on the shelf."

But lab owners who have poured tens of thousands of dollars into state-of-the-art facilities are pushing back against any delay of the testing rule, which requires new products headed to marijuana dispensary shelves to undergo potency testing and screening for pesticides at accredited and licensed labs. The new rules are far more extensive than what the state requires now.

"That is a playbook right out of big tobacco, like hey, you need to move the rules so we can continue our unregulated commerce of a potentially dangerous product," said Anthony Smith, chief scientific officer of Evio Labs, a chain of marijuana testing labs.

Smith said his company has spent a lot of time and money preparing for accreditation and licensing with the understanding that new rules will go into place in October.

Delaying the rule means marijuana producers and processors may take their product to labs that aren't yet up to state standards.

"We can't compete with them," he said. "This will take the good labs and wipe them off the earth and the nefarious, unqualified labs will completely control the market.

"It will be exactly the opposite of what Oregon actually wants from all of this, which is safety," he said.

Rodger Voelker, lab director at OG Analytical, a marijuana lab in Eugene, agreed.

"It is true that it is a tight timeline and it's a real challenge and it's not a perfect system, but we have also demonstrated that you can do it." he said. "There are labs that are coming along. We have demonstrated that you can meet the deadline. We have done it."

Don Morse, owner of the Human Collective, a dispensary in Southwest Portland, said extending the deadline for the new rules on testing, packaging and labeling only postpones the start of the new market, which is supposed to begin rolling out in five days.

Some businesses "waited too long to start complying" with the new rules, he said.

"Another delay is going to embolden the industry to procrastinate," said Morse, a longtime industry activist. "The time has come where it is incumbent on us to step up and do what needs to be done, to launch the recreational system in a meaningful way."

Rob Patridge, chairman of the liquor control commission, on Monday said the agency is evaluating the industry's request. He said the agency, which oversees packaging rules, must balance public safety and the needs of the market in making a decision.

"I am listening to everyone," he said.

Jonathan Modie, spokesman for the Oregon Health Authority, which oversees labeling and lab testing requirements, said his agency is discussing the request with the governor's office and the liquor control agency.

"No decisions have been made," he said in an email to The Oregonian/OregonLive.

 

[PDX Dopesmoker]

"That is a playbook right out of big tobacco, like hey, you need to move the rules so we can continue our unregulated commerce of a potentially dangerous product," said Anthony Smith, chief scientific officer of Evio Labs, a chain of marijuana testing labs.

Ant'ny isn't quite as good at keeping his eye on the bottom line as he thinks he is, a lot of people just stopped being interested in using his lab after reading that.

 

[Aotf]

It would be nice if they tested our food as well as our cannabis. In dreams.