The Mill's Pride Club

[sumo]

Welcome JohnnySixString. The light should go like you have in picture in gallery. But anyway it fits best is best. Caution about venting into attic. If you have any gas appliances like a hot water heater that passively exhausts outside you will have to check to see that they will still exhaust while you are blowing air into attic. In an old house it should not make any differrence but in a new house you might be sucking exhaust gasses including carbon monoxide into home. Also if your bedroom is cold in winter you may not want to waste that heat by blowing it into attic. You are more than on the right track. You are home. Now get to work.

sumo

 

[Guest]

WOW...this thread has brought back a lot of memories.It was Maliboo's C13 thread on Og that inspired me to start growing.Although my specialty is outdoor my C13 started it all.Nice going Sumo keeping it alive.You were on that thread too, weren't you? Anyway, I was known as Hapycampr.I have since upgraded to a larger box and gave the c13 to longtime friends and stoners in the hopes they too will be come self sufficient.Thx again Sumo for keeping it going..BL
P.S. To all new C13 growers.i grew AK47 with a 400 hps w/cool tube my first grow.Took about 3.5 months total and I got well over a QP.It was a great strain for a first timer.my second grow was ice.That is also an easy and rewarding strain for an inexperienced grower.Great bag appeal!

 

[raygun]

Hey I got a question for all the Cab growers. What is your average gram per watt you have yeilded?

For me my most ran strain is Sour Bubble growing 4 plants under a 400watt in bio-buckets and i averaged .48 GPW
Its not a heavy producer by any means but quality is unsurpassed and keeps me in enough ganja that i do not have to buy on the streets and support terrorism.... Now i support my local electrical company

I have not run anything else enough to get an average but i normally will get at least 2oz/plant from any seed run so that keeps my average about the same. I don't think that the "1GPW" is achievable in a cab that is over 14 oz from a 400 but you never know...

I was just wandering what the rest of the cabaholics were achiving.
Peace
~raygun~

 

[The St.]

this forum is great! though i dont have a mills pride cab, i got my own set up!

 

[simon]

I have not run anything else enough to get an average but i normally will get at least 2oz/plant from any seed run so that keeps my average about the same. I don't think that the "1GPW" is achievable in a cab that is over 14 oz from a 400 but you never know...

The GPW measure assumes that light is the limiting factor, As you've noticed, this doesn't necessarily apply to a cab where space is the limiting factor. If you're pulling ~2oz/ft^2 (dry/cured), you're doing very well.


Simon

 

[simon]

For intake I ordered a pair of the 8" Adorama darkroom vents. I was going to put either both on the side or one on the side and one on the door. I wasn't planning on air-cooling the hood, taking a cue from Sumo's cab.

Air will always follow the path of least resistance. As an example, if your louvers are positioned on the opposite walls, the intake closest to the exhaust will be drawn from first. Once its ability to flow is maxed, the second intake will come into play (all things being equal). I'd strongly suggest assessing the box's intended location with this in mind.

As for using a non-aircooled hood, it's not something that I favor. You can save yourself a lot of potential problems by designing and constructing the cab with aircooling.




Simon

 

[The St.]

quick newb question, how do you figure out your watts per sq. ft? im a complete idiot with math!

thanks!

my grow area is 14.5"x33" and i have a 150watt hps

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=73722&page=2&pp=15

 

[simon]

quick newb question, how do you figure out your watts per sq. ft? im a complete idiot with math!

thanks!

my grow area is 14.5"x33" and i have a 150watt hps

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=73722&page=2&pp=15

150/ [(33x14.5)/144] = 45.45w/ft^2


Simon

 

[raygun]

The GPW measure assumes that light is the limiting factor, As you've noticed, this doesn't necessarily apply to a cab where space is the limiting factor. If you're pulling ~2oz/ft^2 (dry/cured), you're doing very well.


Simon

This is true and i guess it would be a better measure like this:
I have about 5 sqft as it is just under the 3x2 mark.
Under a 400 watt is about 80 watt/sqft
I average 6 oz per harvest of 4 plants or
1.2oz/sqft for a low yielding strain...

What are most of you getting?

Peace ~raygun~

 

[simon]

What are most of you getting?

FWIW, at my best, I've pulled +2oz/ft^2 and at my worst ~1oz/ft^2 in a C22 with a 600HPS.


Simon

 

[kp^]

Wanted to update on my progress in my cab.

Plants have been under the 400w 24/0. Planning on a short 18/6 then into 12/12 in about 2 weeks after.

They smellin goood and get busy. weeee

 

[mysta177]

lol....thats the simon I remember math wiz . Now as long as we keep trolls from saying 1 pound out of a c13! my best was 6 zips diff strains like chem4,bubba,sssdh,og on that run not the best yielders!

 

[simon]

Plants have been under the 400w 24/0. Planning on a short 18/6 then into 12/12 in about 2 weeks after.

If you don't mind my asking, why bother with switching to 18/6? I've tried the method and IME the plants flower a little faster by going from 24/0 directly to 12/12. Plus, you avoid the bother of switching cycles.



What strain is this? BTW, it looks like it's getting a little too much heat. You may want to move it farther from the light for a little while.

Simon

 

[simon]

my best was 6 zips diff strains like chem4,bubba,sssdh,og on that run not the best yielders!

Nice product! It looks like you're doing very well.


Simon

 

[kp^]

If you don't mind my asking, why bother with switching to 18/6? I've tried the method and IME the plants flower a little faster by going from 24/0 directly to 12/12. Plus, you avoid the bother of switching cycles.



What strain is this? BTW, it looks like it's getting a little too much heat. You may want to move it farther from the light for a little while.

Simon

Strain unknown. its bagseed. I wanna switch to 18/6 for one reason, save $$. I just may not tho...

Those pics are about a week off from what they look like.... That same plant looks alot better now. I've raised the light.

thanks!

 

[Dr Seuss]

What are most of you getting?

I got 193grams my first and only time in a c13... I liked it so much when I finally got a chance to go back to a HID, I just built a c13 replica.

24"x30"x72", which allows me plenty of room to get my 400hps, fan, and all electrical components in the box and sealed up.


The c13 on harvest day


c13 replica 36 days in flower

 

[JohnnySixString]

Sumo--Thanks for the welcome. My house is all electric, so there shouldn't be any problems with exhausts. I've been mulling over this cab for a while, trying to learn as much as I can and trying to plan it right before I jump in. But, you can't learn to swim just looking at the water, so I'm finally gonna put it together after thanksgiving!


Simon-- The cab will be in the corner, almost flush with the walls on the back and right side. So where would be the best place to put the intake vents? Also, does it matter where the fan is situated in relation to the vents? If the fan is mounted in the upper left corner, will it hurt to have the vents below it on the same left side or do I want air drawn from the opposite side as well? Maybe put one vent on the left side of the cab and one on the front right door? I suck at physics more than I do at math,lol. And I haven't ruled out an air-cooled hood, but initially I'm gonna try it the way sumo's running his. If it doesn't work well for me, I'll definitely be going air-cooled.

 

[simon]

Simon-- The cab will be in the corner, almost flush with the walls on the back and right side. So where would be the best place to put the intake vents? Also, does it matter where the fan is situated in relation to the vents? If the fan is mounted in the upper left corner, will it hurt to have the vents below it on the same left side or do I want air drawn from the opposite side as well? Maybe put one vent on the left side of the cab and one on the front right door? I suck at physics more than I do at math,lol. And I haven't ruled out an air-cooled hood, but initially I'm gonna try it the way sumo's running his. If it doesn't work well for me, I'll definitely be going air-cooled.

You want to place the intakes on the wall opposite to the exhaust so the air is drawn across the garden. I suggest installing the louvers next to each other and not staggering them. No offence to Sumo, really, but there are better cabs to use as a giude. Pinecone's as an example. Good luck!

EDIT: FWIW, I'm the one who introduced the louvers to the cab community.

Simon

 

[simon]

To keep things on an even keel, it would be helpful if yield weights were posted when the product is dried and cured. Personally, I shoot for ~60% RH.

BTW, if anyone would like to know how to use a hydrometer to take the guess work out of curing, I'd be happy to post a short and simple guide..

 

[sumo]

No offence to Sumo, really, but there are better cabs to use as a giude. Pinecone's as an example. Good luck!

EDIT: FWIW, I'm the one who introduced the louvers to the cab community.

Simon

For those who don't know simon this is the sort of stuck up, self gratifying, narcissist he is. His theme is often boo on you yea for me. Previously he said when designing his cab he studied all the cabs ,dismissed all of the ideas, and built something completely original. If he had written a novel it would have been pure plagiarism.
My cab is a combination of everything I learned from other people including self centered simon. Props to all of you who helped including Maliboo. There were people growing out of cabs pre-simon. But simon thinks he invented weed. Simon you can start your own thread and if your message is as good as you say you too will have a thread with over 100,000 views and only one jerk posting on it.
What fun. I feel better.

peace
sumo