the Mexican Landraces Thread

[Montuno]

Barely alive! But there are some still!

https://youtu.be/I_Qgju9_Opg

https://youtu.be/8XyxmxPSkuM

https://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20190205-cubas-tano-people-a-flourishing-culture-believed-extinct

Going back to Mexico, and about Cortés I think this is a great ducumentary about him made by the National Autonomous University of Mexico. I don't know if you can turn on English subtitles.

https://youtu.be/23qjsN1xFlU

There is a proverb which says "The conquest was made by the Indians and independence by the Spanish". Because if it is not for the help of other native people like Tlaxcalans and other enemies of the Aztecs, Spaniards would have been certainly defeated by the Mexicas. Later the independence was sought after specially by the creole aristocracy and bourgeoisie.

Very true. The Totonacs allies, and especially the Tlaxscals, were a key aid in the Spanish victory over the Tenochas and their Mexica (" Mexica", not "Mexican"; n' of course, never " Aztec") Triple Alliance...

An excellent work in English to know the Conquest and its protagonists, especially Cortés and Moctezuma, is the one of Hugh Thomas: "The Conquest of Mexico: The encounter of two worlds; the clash of two empires"
As for the "Letters of Relationship" to the Spanish Emperor by Cortés himself, for me the best edition is the one by Ángel Delgado Gomez from the University of North Dame (Indiana, USA) for Editorial Castalia (Spain).

Pd: thanx a lot for your links, ahortator.

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[harvestreaper]

 

[MAHA KALA]

the idea of a make it a cross between oaxaca 79 x tom hill haze its drive me crazy ! its will be a pure dinamite!!! dude!!!

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here it is, and indeed pure dynamite.

 

[rolandomota]

Some of the modern day landrace just got this yesterday a qp for 100 spicy incense herbal it's a common smell that's always present with this more yellow color stuff

Medium potency comfortable slightly thought stimulating high no taste but with the hand held vaporizer it has a light herbal flavor

click once then click the big picture again to zoom in
Seeds are hard to find in this one but their In their uncrushed





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[willydread]

Hola! Un poquito de mexico...
Oaxaca boel

Primera dama

Oaxaca Copalita

 

[Humple W.]

Hi, all! Great plants, pics, and conversation. I think it's been years since I've posted here, but I'm frequently surfing the threads, especially when I'm reading up on genetics (no better forum for it!).

I've got an itch to grow some landrace/heirloom Mexican. Actually, I've got an itch to grow a few, in a search for something special and quintessentially Mexican - happy, up, possibly even giggly. Thought I'd check in with those better informed than myself, and ask for some input.

The following are my prospects:

First Lady (OD)
Jarilla (CBG)
Highland Guerrero (CL)
Michoacan IBL (Swami)
Zacateca Tribute (GM)

I've been scouring the net for all the info I can find on the above, as well as continuing to look for additional options. Thoughts on those listed? Recommendations for anything else? I'm pretty sure I'm not interested in CBG's Mexican/indica crosses, like Michoacan Cream and such (though I'm open to persuasion) - I'd like at least the chance and likelihood that the genetics are more Mex than not.

Thanks!

 

[TexanTerps]

more ..............do not know how to post large pics....

This was really far out man

 

[Red October]

Hi, all! Great plants, pics, and conversation. I think it's been years since I've posted here, but I'm frequently surfing the threads, especially when I'm reading up on genetics (no better forum for it!).

I've got an itch to grow some landrace/heirloom Mexican. Actually, I've got an itch to grow a few, in a search for something special and quintessentially Mexican - happy, up, possibly even giggly. Thought I'd check in with those better informed than myself, and ask for some input.

The following are my prospects:

First Lady (OD)
Jarilla (CBG)
Highland Guerrero (CL)
Michoacan IBL (Swami)
Zacateca Tribute (GM)

I've been scouring the net for all the info I can find on the above, as well as continuing to look for additional options. Thoughts on those listed? Recommendations for anything else? I'm pretty sure I'm not interested in CBG's Mexican/indica crosses, like Michoacan Cream and such (though I'm open to persuasion) - I'd like at least the chance and likelihood that the genetics are more Mex than not.

Thanks!

first lady is apparently not that strong from what I've been reading. demon latcher might be another option, I would think you'll find kinder oxacan leaning phenos in the f2's but could still carry some of the increased potency from the cross.

 

[Humple W.]

first lady is apparently not that strong from what I've been reading. demon latcher might be another option, I would think you'll find kinder oxacan leaning phenos in the f2's but could still carry some of the increased potency from the cross.

Thanks for the tip! I'm actually not too concerned with raw potency on this project. If I can find something with a truly distinct effect (not just another commercial hybrid, which all feel the same to me), I'll be happy. A long-lasting effect would be a big bonus as well; I'll take 3 hours of feeling mellow over 1 hour of some generic blasting.

Thanks again!

 

[TakenByTheSky]

here it is, and indeed pure dynamite. View Image

Beautiful plant

 

[Red October]

Thanks for the tip! I'm actually not too concerned with raw potency on this project. If I can find something with a truly distinct effect (not just another commercial hybrid, which all feel the same to me), I'll be happy. A long-lasting effect would be a big bonus as well; I'll take 3 hours of feeling mellow over 1 hour of some generic blasting.

Thanks again!

Colorado sativas also has Oaxacan seeds but he doesn't ship outside of Colorado, he has some very interesting genetics though.

 

[Breadwizard]

The First Ladys I had were mellow kind bud in effect, but pretty short lived, nowhere near three hours. I think it shines in outcrosses, as it's effects and general morphology is quite fixed in the line, just diminished from the amount of inbreeding in the line. being a s1 didn't do it any favors in that department.

Thanks for the tip! I'm actually not too concerned with raw potency on this project. If I can find something with a truly distinct effect (not just another commercial hybrid, which all feel the same to me), I'll be happy. A long-lasting effect would be a big bonus as well; I'll take 3 hours of feeling mellow over 1 hour of some generic blasting.

Thanks again!

 

[Humple W.]

The First Ladys I had were mellow kind bud in effect, but pretty short lived, nowhere near three hours. I think it shines in outcrosses, as it's effects and general morphology is quite fixed in the line, just diminished from the amount of inbreeding in the line. being a s1 didn't do it any favors in that department.

Cool, thanks for giving your experience with it. I read a post from another user here who said it was very long-lasting, so it's good to get another perspective.

 

[yesum]

Yeah, the First Lady was kind of short for me, like an hour. Hard to feel it after that really. A couple plants I ran as I remember. I do not recall Mexican pot being very long lasting and I smoked it all thru the 70's and some into the 80's.

Current Mexican lines I have grown are buzz over at 1 1/2 hour on average.

 

[rolandomota]

I'm trying to grow some of my yellow brick score because it smells like incense once burned the seeds are germinating and some are already growing this stuff is not sleepy I like it most of all because of that incense in the smoke thats very reminiscent of ace Panama and original haze
I also have a couple 2 or 4 differentes Mexico plants now from the last score in April that stuff was good and different smell than this yellow one I don't know the sex yet but I'm planning to grow a couple of these yellow ones something will turn up
Tons of Mexico seeds folks I got them

 

[Red October]

Hope you show photos later on, wouldn't mind me some yellow brick weed!!

 

[Humple W.]

Found another prospect: Xtreme Seeds South Mountain Gold. Supposed to be a heavily worked 100% "old school" Mexican sativa (whatever that means to them). Can't find much info on it, but the breeder certainly hypes it as something special (don't they all!). Here's the breeder's description.

South Mountain Golden is a sativa from the Mexican area of Guerrero and has been jealously guarded since the 1980s by El Guerrillero. This sativa 100% fast flowering has a medium yield but of the best possible quality.

The effect is very strong, even becoming paranoid if you are not used to these genetics. Euphoric, psychedelic and active, it will take your thoughts to a higher level of consciousness.

The aroma, together with its high potency, is its main presentation card. With a strongly marked flavor, complex and different from the current commercial varieties. Intense floral blend with sweet and wooden touches. In combustion it can be identified as an authentic "sativa old school".

Another of its best qualities is the large amount of resin it produces, covering the larger leaves. It produces high-quality hashish for both dry and ice extraction.

At $35 for 10 fems, it could be worth a gamble.

 

[Humple W.]

Found another prospect: Xtreme Seeds South Mountain Gold. Supposed to be a heavily worked 100% "old school" Mexican sativa (whatever that means to them). Can't find much info on it, but the breeder certainly hypes it as something special (don't they all!). Here's the breeder's description.

South Mountain Golden is a sativa from the Mexican area of Guerrero and has been jealously guarded since the 1980s by El Guerrillero. This sativa 100% fast flowering has a medium yield but of the best possible quality.

The effect is very strong, even becoming paranoid if you are not used to these genetics. Euphoric, psychedelic and active, it will take your thoughts to a higher level of consciousness.

The aroma, together with its high potency, is its main presentation card. With a strongly marked flavor, complex and different from the current commercial varieties. Intense floral blend with sweet and wooden touches. In combustion it can be identified as an authentic "sativa old school".

Another of its best qualities is the large amount of resin it produces, covering the larger leaves. It produces high-quality hashish for both dry and ice extraction.

At $35 for 10 fems, it could be worth a gamble.

Oops. That's $35 for 5 fems, not 10. Still, not bad. Never heard a peep about Xtreme though. No clue how their gear generally performs. Anyone familiar with them?

 

[Slim Pickens]

I tried starting First Lady 3 times so far.First one never cracked the surface,next 2 broke surface but never progressed from there and died a lonely death.Can't tell ya how bummed I am about that.

The Jarilla's (from a friend here) are doing splendidly.I've been impatiently waiting for some indication of sex,and 1 just showed female yesterday,so I am stoked!

 

[Humple W.]

I tried starting First Lady 3 times so far.First one never cracked the surface,next 2 broke surface but never progressed from there and died a lonely death.Can't tell ya how bummed I am about that.

The Jarilla's (from a friend here) are doing splendidly.I've been impatiently waiting for some indication of sex,and 1 just showed female yesterday,so I am stoked!

Yeah, reports of poor germ rates, hermies, etc. are all over the Delicatessen thread. Somehow that's not really putting me off, though it probably should!