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the Mexican Landraces Thread
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HemperorsKnight
Beautiful how long does it take Acapulco to flower? And does that line express a lot of pheno possibilities?
14-16 weeks
Someone posted old articles of old strains where it said 14-18 weeks for the Acapulco gold
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=7605724&highlight=Flowering#post7605724
Can't tell you about phenos because mine are still very small
I have mine on 9 hours and 40 minutes lights on. I think they will be done in 12 weeks. I am at 8 weeks and they have some amber pistils. Both mine look pretty similar.
C. Breeze
Member
Pretty good discussion here these last couple pages. Obviously there is some nuance to the distinctions we make as enthusiasts, as to whether a plant or seed line is an heirloom or a landrace. It's easy to flog a dead horse regarding verbiage- what these words all mean- but it's also equally important to use them accurately within our community but especially when going outside of our community and sharing information with the horticultural community at large.
These "arguments" on either side of the discussion are also reminiscent of the science/botany vs bro science/popular theory discussions. One of the most intriguing aspects of cannabis cultivation is that we have both a tremendously long and rich tradition and history and due to the clandestine nature of the activity- an undeniably intriguing and somewhat sordid or should I say "seedy" recent history- and we are all trying to stitch it together into something coherent
These "arguments" on either side of the discussion are also reminiscent of the science/botany vs bro science/popular theory discussions. One of the most intriguing aspects of cannabis cultivation is that we have both a tremendously long and rich tradition and history and due to the clandestine nature of the activity- an undeniably intriguing and somewhat sordid or should I say "seedy" recent history- and we are all trying to stitch it together into something coherent
thejact55
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Have you done so little light before? I get mine down to 11 hrs all the time, but haven't dared going much below. Doe you see any decrease in bud production or any other I'll effects from going with so little light? Your pics in a previous post looks nice, not knocking your method, just curious.
mexicani-ar
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What's up Hemperorsknight , thanks , this AG flowers for 15 + weeks. I originally popped 4 seeds, only 2 made it, a female and male , and both looked identical. Hope this helps , saludos Mexicani-ar
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What's up Hemperorsknight , thanks , this AG flowers for 15 + weeks. I originally popped 4 seeds, only 2 made it, a female and male , and both looked identical. Hope this helps , saludos Mexicani-ar
No, this is a new low for me. I read of a guy that lowered his light cycle to 9 hours to speed things up and thought what the hell. He was growing Colombians.
If I was worried about yield I would not be doing this I guess. I see nothing very different but have not run any of these strains before.
Wow!!! I hope you allow them to make seeds.
Old school Mexican sativas/NLD are highly endangered in their homeland. Most wonderful strains are lost forever. If legalization reach the country they will only be growing Kush hybrids there in the future.
https://www.vice.com/es_mx/article/la-golden-el-santo-grial-de-la-mariguana
The only hope is the people preserve such rare gems in their pure form, if such thing still exist.
Greetings.
That looks a lot more like a traditional Mexican cultivar than his Oaxacan IBL-
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=52773&pictureid=1715776
https://www.icmag.com/ic/picture.php?albumid=52773&pictureid=1636158
It's damned nice weed in any case so I'm growing more to tide us over an anticipated shutdown over the summer. The house isn't air conditioned & the price to run the lights goes up 50% July thru September.
west-eu
Well-known member
this Oaxacan looks like an hybride ... what kind of flavor have u got from it ?
The nose is mild sweet peppery/ piney/ rosemary. The smoke is smooth, earthy, piney, maybe a hint of menthol. Lingering aftertaste. Old school. Nice up high with a mood enhancing effect.
Easy to grow, sturdy stems & done flowering in 10 weeks of 12/12 under CDM's. It's impossible to know is ancestry or how long they've been growing it in Oaxaca. I suspect it's a local hybrid dating from Nixon's WoD back in the 70's. One of the ways Mexican growers adapted was with the introduction of shorter flowering varieties to stay ahead of the choppers. Can't blame them, really, because they're just trying to feed their families.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/photo_popup.php?e=vB_Editor_001#
This Acapulco Gold from Bodhi or Greywolf? 68 days flower. The one on the left is a bit behind as it got nipped in veg by cat and delayed.
They both have milky trichomes with few clear, so I think 2 more weeks maximum. I even saw one amber trichome on the more advanced plant. All the trichomes are on sugar leaves as this has really old school structure without a real bud or bunch of calyxes to it. Sugar leaves and pistils for the most part. Never know if I will like the smoke till I try, but this seems the most legit representation of AG that I have seen.
I forgot to add, this plant smells strange. Can not place the smell but it is unlike all the other strains in the tent. They all smell sweet and the AG smell kinda musty? Very light odor as well.
This Acapulco Gold from Bodhi or Greywolf? 68 days flower. The one on the left is a bit behind as it got nipped in veg by cat and delayed.
They both have milky trichomes with few clear, so I think 2 more weeks maximum. I even saw one amber trichome on the more advanced plant. All the trichomes are on sugar leaves as this has really old school structure without a real bud or bunch of calyxes to it. Sugar leaves and pistils for the most part. Never know if I will like the smoke till I try, but this seems the most legit representation of AG that I have seen.
I forgot to add, this plant smells strange. Can not place the smell but it is unlike all the other strains in the tent. They all smell sweet and the AG smell kinda musty? Very light odor as well.
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M. Esquandolas
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Howdy! My first post here. I'd been planning to sign up soon, but I wandered onto the landrace section...I have a promising looking SOA Malawi that I was researching...and realized that the experts around this thread might be able to solve some twenty year old mysteries for me.
My love for our plant developed in the early half of the 90s in the cool town of Texas. I had been only a very casual smoker until my friends slyly recruited me. The weed they had (and loved) during the couple of months where I discovered the glory, was something I've come to realize was fairly unusual. They had dubbed it the PGB (piney green bud) and it really had a pure clean pine flavor. Even stranger, it seemed, was the fact that it appeared to have pine needles draped over the buds. Thinking back, I'm pretty sure those needles were just very thin sativa leaves that dried and curled into a true needle look. I don't think it had any speedy/tweeky/paranoia to it...I would have been very susceptible at the time. As I recall, it was smooth, clean, giggly, happy...just the bees knees. It wasn't compacted very hard, so it may not have crossed a border but it had to have been sort of special sativa. Again, this was Texas, so I'd think it might come from eastern regions rather than the Acapulco/pacific areas... but not necessarily if it was a Texas grower. Does anybody have any guesses what this might be? I've been wondering for years and might even want to cook up a reunion if I could find the right seeds.
A few years later I came into an eighth of the oddest and most unique weed I've ever encountered. The guy warned me sheepishly...there are a LOT of seeds but it's really good. What I got was this pretty small nearly black chunk with seeds bursting out the sides. I tried to break it up and it actually snapped like hard sugar candy and the seeds spilled out like rain onto my tray...ping, ping, ping. I scraped up some of what was left around the seeds, smoked up, and stepped outside my dark man cave. It was like stepping into the Wizard of Oz... everything was neon and shimmering...almost vibrating. It was really more mushrooms than cannabis. Again...what the hell did I smoke? I guess it was something that got very purple and resinous and was bricked to the point where the resin squeezed out around the seeds and almost glued them together. The seeds turned out to be non-viable too, so it probably had seen some extreme temperatures. Any guesses what this might have been? Again if it was a landrace-ish strain that crossed through Texas, it was more likely from the north eastern end of Mexico.
Thanks for any help...I've been wondering for years.
My love for our plant developed in the early half of the 90s in the cool town of Texas. I had been only a very casual smoker until my friends slyly recruited me. The weed they had (and loved) during the couple of months where I discovered the glory, was something I've come to realize was fairly unusual. They had dubbed it the PGB (piney green bud) and it really had a pure clean pine flavor. Even stranger, it seemed, was the fact that it appeared to have pine needles draped over the buds. Thinking back, I'm pretty sure those needles were just very thin sativa leaves that dried and curled into a true needle look. I don't think it had any speedy/tweeky/paranoia to it...I would have been very susceptible at the time. As I recall, it was smooth, clean, giggly, happy...just the bees knees. It wasn't compacted very hard, so it may not have crossed a border but it had to have been sort of special sativa. Again, this was Texas, so I'd think it might come from eastern regions rather than the Acapulco/pacific areas... but not necessarily if it was a Texas grower. Does anybody have any guesses what this might be? I've been wondering for years and might even want to cook up a reunion if I could find the right seeds.
A few years later I came into an eighth of the oddest and most unique weed I've ever encountered. The guy warned me sheepishly...there are a LOT of seeds but it's really good. What I got was this pretty small nearly black chunk with seeds bursting out the sides. I tried to break it up and it actually snapped like hard sugar candy and the seeds spilled out like rain onto my tray...ping, ping, ping. I scraped up some of what was left around the seeds, smoked up, and stepped outside my dark man cave. It was like stepping into the Wizard of Oz... everything was neon and shimmering...almost vibrating. It was really more mushrooms than cannabis. Again...what the hell did I smoke? I guess it was something that got very purple and resinous and was bricked to the point where the resin squeezed out around the seeds and almost glued them together. The seeds turned out to be non-viable too, so it probably had seen some extreme temperatures. Any guesses what this might have been? Again if it was a landrace-ish strain that crossed through Texas, it was more likely from the north eastern end of Mexico.
Thanks for any help...I've been wondering for years.
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HemperorsKnight
Don't go as far as to calling it landrace that was already discussed earlier on this thread it would be an heirloom or possibly a Mexican domesticated strain like how we Americans have OG and chemdog etc but I'm sure someone can direct ya to some information pertaining the answers you desire
