the Mexican Landraces Thread

[satva]

Thanks bloyd, I've also noted the HM x BB high is similar to psilocybin. Punto Rojo has some phenotypes with a high similar to HM x BB. Many many moons ago, I had a friend that knew how to scatter psilocybin spores in cow fields, he also loved the early 1970's Acapulco Gold. What a combo. ColJam ( Colombian Gold x 1960's Jamaican Lambsbread) - is a cleaner, cerebral, and trippier high (think microdose LSD-25).

Punto Rojo phenotypes range in-between the two, the purple phenos closer high to HM x BB and the Punto Rojo light green / gold phenos closer to ColJam high. I don't experience a harsh comedown from Colombian ~ + 18 - 22 weeks. Colombian Red known for a narcotic, mellow, euphoric high, has a high similar to HM x BB, but more hazy high without the indica influence. Made several Haze x Skunk crosses using HM x BB as the Skunk (Highland Guerrero x Afghani). The high from 1970's Highland Oaxacan Gold as I remember it was cleaner, calmer and more feel good euphoric high than Acapulco Gold or Guerrero Green.





Highland Mexican high was wonderful free-flowing energy with heighten sensory awareness and is a strong high, denser and more complex high than a Haze, due to the Afghani influence in BB.

Chimera's Highland Mexican Highland Guerrero x Blueberry Smoke report.

Highland Guerrero x Blueberry (HMBB) -(blue and green flower) Highland Mexican is psychedelic similar to mushrooms. Energy, and especially sunlight dance all over the place. Heightened sensory awareness, magnetic attraction to the earth and your world is magical. Or as Don Juan would say " Seeing."

Vaporizing on low medium and hot the vapors taste - Perfume/ Temple incense / lime terpenes provide magic, strong energy connections to your senses, everything you see in pure sunlight is magical, you might say trippy.

The pheno represents the hybrid 14 weeks flowering. Wispy haze like flower stalks. Cured + 9 months.

The high is heady felt around the eyes. Energy is expansive from the chest to the top of the head. My heart rate is increasing and the high is an excellent compliment for outdoor summer activities.

HMBB high has a rolling vibration, waves of energy, and the increased heart rate are psychedelic. The high is euphoric with a nice energy flow that's magical at times. I like magic! My sense and awareness are heightened, colors are brighter, the sky is bluer, trailing images, and flashes out of the corners of my eyes - music sounds better. The high has a warm, feel good, creative free flowing energy.

The high does not increase mental activity. Thoughts and energy flow like a river without increased thought production, euphoric, expansive, sensory perceptions are intensified and psychedelic.

There is a connected energy to your world, sunlight, clouds, and the sky appear magical - similar to Don Juan's concept of seeing. (Seeing = an energetic and direct connection to your world and environment). HMBB has a connoisseur high - a favorite summertime smoke.

 

[Highlighter]

Superb reports, bloyd & satva!



I also have sprouts of HM x BB x Punto Rojo, so I appreciate your including your take on that and the Colombian Gold, satva.

So happy to be working these variations of HM x BB.

 

[Thcvhunter]

Highlighter, Nice!!

 

[yesum]

Satva, that was the smoke report that sold me on the hm x bb hehe. bloyd you have also confirmed what I hoped for except for the harsh comedown?

Shrooms were my favorite high but for various reasons I let that go back in the 70's. Love to get some of that vibe going again, but in a half hour dose rather than 6 hours like actual shrooms.

That Jarilla is a 20+ year old strain so not a recent thing. I am sure there are older strains out there though. I can confirm it is old school trippy and fun. A real bargain and easy to buy.

 

[Highlighter]

If I have the room, I have a pk. of Jarilla I'd like to get in the mix too.

 

[satva]

HM x BB comedown is nothing a few tokes of Punto Rojo, or HM x BB for that matter wouldn't cure. Copalita Oaxacan is feel good high with a mellow afterglow, not as energetic as Colombian.

What causes a harsh comedown? IMO, HM x BB comedown is not as harsh as a 16 week Mango Haze. I'd guess the comedown comes from the indica side of the family. HM x BB smoking small amounts all day will keep you very active and no where near the couch.

Colombian Gold x 1960's Jamaican Lambsbread has no comedown. Punto Rojo just a bit depending on the phenotype, more euphoria equals more comedown. I was experimenting with this yesterday, smoking HM x BB and Punto Rojo

After a ColJam day, my nervous system is still vibrating when I wake up the next morning.

 

[Cannabis Motiva]

Update on these bag seeds from Yucatan..

I managed to get ahold of someone down there who contacted the guy I purchase from in Mexico. He verified for me that his product is always straight from Oaxaca where it is grown, outdoor, large-scale.

However, he couldn't verify whether or not it was a true landrace but suspects it's a strain indigenous to Oaxaca.

Anyway, these photos are from week 4 of flower, give or take a few days. It's really hard to get full plant photos because they're so fucking big, not much space to move, and light is usally limited in the corn at the times I vist. 42 degrees north and they're loving it. By the way things look, I'm expecting to harvest by week 8 or 9. If they're not finished by 9, they're getting pulled anyway before I lose them to the farmer's combine.

Smoked a tiny test bud today, just out of curiosity. It sat to dry in a window for a day or so. Taste was what's expected from a rapid & improper dry (green & harsh), but I can definitely say this will have a fine flavor profile once cured - based on what I tasted. It also got me instantly blown in just 1 hit, very heady, clean & racy. I was still high 3 hours later. Obviously this will only improve with maturity and a nice slow cure.



LOTS of white hairs, all over these buds.. Enormous amount of bud sites all over these. Lower sites are still of excellent size and shape, not going to be much popcorn here. The plant pictured is probably 9.5 feet tall at this point and seems to have stopped stretching. Total stretch was maybe 2 feet since flower began. Picture to the right is only the top 1/3rd of the plant.

I feel slightly rude from posting on this thread because I cannot verify this is an authentic landrace, but.... I'm assuming it's suitable enough.

Loving this thread and some of your guys' photos are amazing.

 

[RC_Colas]

Hola elchischas,

Great to see you around on the forums again and glad to see you enjoyed the Copalita mi amigo. Would love to hear more of your opinion and of course I always love to see photos, especially in flower

Muchas Gracias

RC_Colas

Hello everyone! I have a lot of time that I did not come to the forum
I'm glad that the thread is still alive. I see there are still people interested in Mexican lines
There are a lot of valuable information here, so I'm very grateful to all those who have contributed with info and photos. I have seriously thought back to this, so lets see what happens...
some pictures about a oaxacan line give to me from RCcolas, thanks a lot! it was a pure Oaxacan landrace with a good smoke, thanks for share my friend.
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[elchischas]

POPO ORO

POPO ORO

hi friends!
Hi RC_Colas how are you bro?
Copalita it was a truly oaxacan pure strain, I grew at that time 6 plants to test, unfortunately I'd lost the most of my old photos and I just posting the few that still remained.
well my friends, I'm gonna post some pictures of the truly mexican strain called "popo oro" I want to make clear that is NOT my photos, this photos is from ald mexican friend of mine, I met him into another forum a long long time ago, he's unpload this wonderful images of a pure mexican strain, obviously I ask for seeds but unfortunately no longer the seeds available and I lost the contact with him.
The strain grew near to volcano "popocatepetl" near a village called "tetela del volcano" my friend get the buds there and he ask where the buds came from and the answer was from the same village as well.
hope you enjoy the photos as I always do.
cheers

 

[Pineapple_Punch]

Copalita it was a truly oaxacan pure strain, I grew at that time 6 plants to test, unfortunately I'd lost the most of my old photos and I just posting the few that still remained

Hello elchischas!

A grower friend has sent me RC_Colas Copalita Oaxaca. What are your feelings about the Copalita Oaxaca from RC_Colas? Do you think this Copalita is similar to DJ Shorts description of a Highland Oaxaca?

And thank you RC_Colas for collecting this nice strain!

 

[mexicani-ar]

Popo Oro

Popo Oro

hi friends!
Hi RC_Colas how are you bro?
Copalita it was a truly oaxacan pure strain, I grew at that time 6 plants to test, unfortunately I'd lost the most of my old photos and I just posting the few that still remained.
well my friends, I'm gonna post some pictures of the truly mexican strain called "popo oro" I want to make clear that is NOT my photos, this photos is from ald mexican friend of mine, I met him into another forum a long long time ago, he's unpload this wonderful images of a pure mexican strain, obviously I ask for seeds but unfortunately no longer the seeds available and I lost the contact with him.
The strain grew near to volcano "popocatepetl" near a village called "tetela del volcano" my friend get the buds there and he ask where the buds came from and the answer was from the same village as well.
hope you enjoy the photos as I always do.
cheers
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Hola elchischas , Do you think this landrace from Puebla is still being grown in Mexico today?

 

[elchischas]

A grower friend has sent me RC_Colas Copalita Oaxaca. What are your feelings about the Copalita Oaxaca from RC_Colas? Do you think this Copalita is similar to DJ Shorts description of a Highland Oaxaca?

Hi pinneaple how are you?
well... is hard to me try to make a accurate comparison between a real strain and an anecdote,there's a thread here same at Icmag called "highland oaxaca gold thread" and I mean, what the heck is that?
if we try to find things in that direction I think we will not succeed
I just try to preserve pure mexican strains no names, I but I think your question is about the high? well all the oaxaca strains are powerful plants and I can tell you that you can have a good time with all
to be honest, I need to try more with Copalita line, is a good one but i just grew some plants no enough to say something relevant about it.

Do you think this landrace from Puebla is still being grown in Mexico today?

hi mexicani how are you?
certainly I can't answer that question, could be a dificult to go there and search it, but with a little luck you can find the right person
You know what I mean?
peace.

 

[Pineapple_Punch]

Hi pinneaple how are you?
well... is hard to me try to make a accurate comparison between a real strain and an anecdote,there's a thread here same at Icmag called "highland oaxaca gold thread" and I mean, what the heck is that?
if we try to find things in that direction I think we will not succeed
I just try to preserve pure mexican strains no names, I but I think your question is about the high? well all the oaxaca strains are powerful plants and I can tell you that you can have a good time with all
to be honest, I need to try more with Copalita line, is a good one but i just grew some plants no enough to say something relevant about it.

High elchischas, thank you for your answer. Im fine, how are you? I've read a bit here and there about RC_Colas Oaxaca line, and it looks really promissing. I really like the Bud formation, very exotic! My experience with Mexican Sativas and Pure Sativas in general is zero, so i can't imagine how a Pure Sativa High is feeling, and now i wanna try it. And im very happy to have this strain in my little collection. Maybe we will see a little grow report by you in the Future, would be nice!

 

[misterD]

I got in stock a rapsberry selection crossed to a oaxacan!

I'll prolly try this somewhere around this winter!

That might turn legal in 2017 in my country, so i've got my self a nice greenhouse (just in case)

 

[satva]

hey Pineapple Punch, here's what DJ Short said about the Highland Oacaxan Gold high in black and my comments in purple.

"Highland Oaxaca

Highland Gold, somewhat similar to the Colombian Gold,Yes, similar clear high, Colombian Gold is much more trippy, energetic, and intense. I'm flowering Copalita Oaxacan x ColJam - Colombian Gold phenotype

lacked bright gold not all Colombian Gold was gold, but you'll never forget that clear, trippy cerebral highcolor but sported purple and red calyx tips on its blondish-brownish-green buds. It had larger buds surrounded by long, skinny leaves.Copalita Oaxacan has diversity in leaf shape some NLD and some Medium leaves

I smoked this variety during brief periods in the early 70's and again in the late 70's, DJ paid $40 - $120 ounce for Highland Oaxacan Gold

The price range tells it all $120 would have inclueded a spaceship. My brother smoked Oaxacan for ten years, in the 1970's his friend had a farm and grew a small sinsimelia field ever year some plants were the size of small two story houses. It was commercial seedless picked early, an ounce was a quart sized bag jammed full ~ $40,

It was some of my all-time favorite, 1975 Highland Oaxacan Gold was my favorite, 18 inch spears, mostly seeds and stems, remember tha? I must have throw away a million dollars (2016 price) of Highland Oaxacan Gold seeds. because the aroma and flavor were of a super-spicy cedar incense super -spicy - cedar easier to find in Punto Rojo and Colombian Gold than Oaxacanwith a slight fermentedI'm getting lots of fermintation, musty earthy, tobacco, but not sweet troicpal fruit, pine or citrus berry taste, in a very comfortable comfortable and feel good, /COLOR]yet powerfully psychedelic potits psychedelic, but not strong or powerful, Charlie Garcia has said the same Oaxacan is not as strong as a Colombian Haze. No matter how or where you grow the two This herb contributed to many great parties, concerts and events of the era because it produced a very socially-conscious experience the feel good socially conscious high is what makes the Oaxacans shine, a kind and gentle highand mixed well with other psychedelics. Yeah, but with earlty 1970's Acapulco Gold you didn't need other psychedelics

With a long lasting, not as long lasting as Colombian, I smoked Punto Rojo yesterday, and my nervous system is still buzzing this morning creeper high that kept coming on in waves over the hours, Copalita Oaxacan, doesn't creep, the initial rush is trippy, with increased sensory awareness, then it mellows into a feel good kinder and gentler high this stuff had no ceiling. Copalita Oaxacan has a ceiling, Coljam has no ceilingOne phenomenon consistently reported from the Highland Oaxaca experience was that of peripheral visual distortionsI get visual distortions trails from Punto Rojo, ColJam other wordly, Oaxacans are mostly about increased sensory awareness, things seem brighter, and more fun of primarily cartoon color images. This tended to increase the visual distortions caused by other psychedelics such as mushrooms or LSD.

The Oaxaca Highland Gold was a nearly pure Sativa there is a lot of genetic diversity in Copalita Oaxacanwhich grew tall some phenotypes of Copalita Oaxacan grow in a column, other grow like a vineat 45°N, outdoors.That's pretty far North for Oaxacan, probably Oregon It was also one of the most symmetrical Sativas I have encountered.Copalita has both symmetrical christmas tree and asymetrical branching that grows like a vine The plants grew long side branches toward the bottom, and the even growth made these productive beauties look like Christmas trees when mature.

The finished product was a very sweet and spicy herb In Copalita Oaxacan I'm getting, earthy, musky, cedar, root herbs used to make Rootbeer, of the highest quality, with a hint of fruity pine aroma. The seeds for this variety were small, dark and round, yes, typical Mexican seeds, some are medium brown green and some are light brown, but all solid color with minimal molting/strippingand the plants exhibited slight signs of hermaphroditism Copalita Oaxacan is very hermaphroditic, Photo of the hermaphroditic phenotype with Alligator leaves, vine-like growth and Thai-like high, flowers look like Elchacis's Freaky Thai Destroyer, ie nothing you'd call a flower, or bud

Alligator pheno


Medium leaf pheno


Narrow leaf pheno


Late summer, I've been smoking Copalita Oaxacan with Punto Rojo and ColJam. For a kinder and gentler sativa experience. After a bowl of ColJam, my brother is walking around the yard, looks like he has on 3-D glasses, but he doesn't. " Hey bro, how's the ColJam for you? All he says is, "Trippy"

PS> Copalita Oaxacan is a pure sativa, but for me not the Highland Oaxacan Gold of yesteryear..............

 

[Pineapple_Punch]

hey Pineapple Punch, here's what DJ Short said about the Highland Oacaxan Gold high in black and my comments in purple.

"Highland Oaxaca

Highland Gold, somewhat similar to the Colombian Gold,Yes, similar clear high, Colombian Gold is much more trippy, energetic, and intense. I'm flowering Copalita Oaxacan x ColJam - Colombian Gold phenotype

lacked bright gold not all Colombian Gold was gold, but you'll never forget that clear, trippy cerebral highcolor but sported purple and red calyx tips on its blondish-brownish-green buds. It had larger buds surrounded by long, skinny leaves.Copalita Oaxacan has diversity in leaf shape some NLD and some Medium leaves

I smoked this variety during brief periods in the early 70's and again in the late 70's, DJ paid $40 - $120 ounce for Highland Oaxacan Gold

The price range tells it all $120 would have inclueded a spaceship. My brother smoked Oaxacan for ten years, in the 1970's his friend had a farm and grew a small sinsimelia field ever year some plants were the size of small two story houses. It was commercial seedless picked early, an ounce was a quart sized bag jammed full ~ $40,

It was some of my all-time favorite, 1975 Highland Oaxacan Gold was my favorite, 18 inch spears, mostly seeds and stems, remember tha? I must have throw away a million dollars (2016 price) of Highland Oaxacan Gold seeds. because the aroma and flavor were of a super-spicy cedar incense super -spicy - cedar easier to find in Punto Rojo and Colombian Gold than Oaxacanwith a slight fermentedI'm getting lots of fermintation, musty earthy, tobacco, but not sweet troicpal fruit, pine or citrus berry taste, in a very comfortable comfortable and feel good, /COLOR]yet powerfully psychedelic potits psychedelic, but not strong or powerful, Charlie Garcia has said the same Oaxacan is not as strong as a Colombian Haze. No matter how or where you grow the two This herb contributed to many great parties, concerts and events of the era because it produced a very socially-conscious experience the feel good socially conscious high is what makes the Oaxacans shine, a kind and gentle highand mixed well with other psychedelics. Yeah, but with earlty 1970's Acapulco Gold you didn't need other psychedelics

With a long lasting, not as long lasting as Colombian, I smoked Punto Rojo yesterday, and my nervous system is still buzzing this morning creeper high that kept coming on in waves over the hours, Copalita Oaxacan, doesn't creep, the initial rush is trippy, with increased sensory awareness, then it mellows into a feel good kinder and gentler high this stuff had no ceiling. Copalita Oaxacan has a ceiling, Coljam has no ceilingOne phenomenon consistently reported from the Highland Oaxaca experience was that of peripheral visual distortionsI get visual distortions trails from Punto Rojo, ColJam other wordly, Oaxacans are mostly about increased sensory awareness, things seem brighter, and more fun of primarily cartoon color images. This tended to increase the visual distortions caused by other psychedelics such as mushrooms or LSD.

The Oaxaca Highland Gold was a nearly pure Sativa there is a lot of genetic diversity in Copalita Oaxacanwhich grew tall some phenotypes of Copalita Oaxacan grow in a column, other grow like a vineat 45°N, outdoors.That's pretty far North for Oaxacan, probably Oregon It was also one of the most symmetrical Sativas I have encountered.Copalita has both symmetrical christmas tree and asymetrical branching that grows like a vine The plants grew long side branches toward the bottom, and the even growth made these productive beauties look like Christmas trees when mature.

The finished product was a very sweet and spicy herb In Copalita Oaxacan I'm getting, earthy, musky, cedar, root herbs used to make Rootbeer, of the highest quality, with a hint of fruity pine aroma. The seeds for this variety were small, dark and round, yes, typical Mexican seeds, some are medium brown green and some are light brown, but all solid color with minimal molting/strippingand the plants exhibited slight signs of hermaphroditism Copalita Oaxacan is very hermaphroditic, Photo of the hermaphroditic phenotype with Alligator leaves, vine-like growth and Thai-like high, flowers look like Elchacis's Freaky Thai Destroyer, ie nothing you'd call a flower, or bud

Alligator pheno
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Medium leaf pheno
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Narrow leaf pheno
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Late summer, I've been smoking Copalita Oaxacan with Punto Rojo and ColJam. For a kinder and gentler sativa experience. After a bowl of ColJam, my brother is walking around the yard, looks like he has on 3-D glasses, but he doesn't. " Hey bro, how's the ColJam for you? All he says is, "Trippy"

PS> Copalita Oaxacan is a pure sativa, but for me not the Highland Oaxacan Gold of yesteryear..............

Thank you Satva for taking the Time to write this down!

I really wanna preserve this Line in the Form i got it, even if it's not THE Highland Oaxaca of yesterday, and for me your High description sounds pretty nice! Herms are not a problem for me, im a lone Grower and Smoker so i can live with a few Bananas here and there.

PS: The ColJam sounds pretty Fire.

 

[mexicani-ar]

Bodhi Acapulco Gold

Bodhi Acapulco Gold

Hey everybody, hope all is well in your gardens, I chopped this girl down at 15 weeks, she could have easily gone 16 maybe 17 weeks, the reason I cut her down was due to a minor spider mite problem, got some clones of this girl, hope she smokes as good as the stories I've read here at ic, saludos Mexicani-ar

 

[Pineapple_Punch]

Hey everybody, hope all is well in your gardens, I chopped this girl down at 15 weeks, she could have easily gone 16 maybe 17 weeks, the reason I cut her down was due to a minor spider mite problem, got some clones of this girl, hope she smokes as good as the stories I've read here at ic, saludos Mexicani-ar

Looking pretty good mexicani-ar, hope she smokes well for you!

 

[yesum]

Great news mexicani-ar!

Not clear if Oaxacan Highland Gold was your favorite over Acapulco Gold or what there satva? Also if your Copalita is anything like your old Highland Oaxacan. My Oaxacan from Eskobar is as you describe, brightening of colors and emotions. That is the main thing it does. I think you said the HM x BB is nice but not as trippy as old time AG.

I got some Guerrero x Panama Red ( both strains from early 70's) seeds from Swami. Those will have to wait on the many varieties of Mexican and south American sativa that I already have. First Lady is coming to me, a old ( 60's or 70's?)Mexican line carried by ACE and Delicatessen. Robert C Clarke is supposed to have collected it.

Colombian Gold was just a upper high for me, not that spacey or visual or anything. 1979 it was, kind of a letdown after all the hype around it. The Mexicans beat it for spacey feelings and visuals.

 

[shawkmon]

mexi bagseed male , from some decent brick that i had been puffing on, tossed a few in around august first , he will be used soon if i can save some, tonight he gets chop