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the Mexican Landraces Thread

yesum

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I have CBG Jarilla beans now with Eskobar's Oaxacan and Jalisco on the way. Gonna do all three next grow. Should find something nice in it I would think.
 

satva

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2011 Copalita Oaxacan

2011 Copalita Oaxacan

Search for Highland Oaxacan Gold........surf's up~
Lots of genetic variation, ranging from South American skunky meduim leaves to exotic alligator / double serations, to extreme NLD similar growth and flowering to Punto Rojo. First round, I selected for NLD and exotic growth, which may yield some unstable sex. Now selecting males and another good female expression.

Colalita Oaxacan 2 & Copalita Oaxacan 3
 

satva

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Copalita Oaxacan

Copalita Oaxacan

Copalita Oaxacan - 1 thin NLD, flowering structure, and thin leaves somewhat similar to Punto Rojo, not as excotic to me as the double serrations and alligator serrations in the leaves, asymetrical branching, with very thin green/red/pink branches.

Copalita Oaxacan - 1 with narrow leaves






Copalita - 3 what I'm calling double / alligator serrations, kind of exotic for me........
 

ThaiBliss

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Satva - You convinced me to look through more of those Oaxacan seeds. I only grew one, and it looked like this:

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I wasn't satisfied with the effects, so I culled it. If they can look so much like Thai, perhaps the effects can range that way also.

:thinking:

ThaiBliss
 

satva

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Hey ThaiBliss, you know Thai better than me. I remember 1975 Highland Oaxacan Gold as very clear, blissful, euphoric, with increased sensory awareness. I'd expect a wide range of effects from Copalita Oaxacan based on the wide range of growth diversity. Probably a combination of longer flowering South American NLD, Thai, and shorter flowering medium leaf Mexican genetics within Copalita Oaxacan. Some in vegetation are growing very similar to Chimera's 1973 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry. I'm growing a couple 1973 Highland Guerrero x Blueberries alongside the Copalita Oaxacans. If the HM x BB are males I'll introduce them and a Punto Rojo female to my favorite Copalita female, also Punto Rojo, and hopefully a NLD Copalita pollen.

I've seen these terpenes noted for Copalita Oaxacan sweet, spicey, pine, sweet cedar, incense, and frankincense, chocolate, coffee, tobacco. I'll select for sweet, pine, cedar, and incense. Frankincense is about as dense as I like, if the terpenes are much denser than Frankincense, I experience " a stone" with too much density in the high and a comedown /let down after 1 1/2 - 2 hours. A high I'd get from a 12 - 14 week Mango Haze, much denser high/stone than Punto Rojo.

Remember DS x HMBB - A,
Here is a progeny of a male Sweet Red Legs(stems). I crossed this dude with Punto Rojo.

another DS x HMBB - A .......looks like "Red Hair Mexican" x "Sweet Red Legs"

BTW, Have you reviewed Dubi's 1979 Oaxacan breeding? I don't see some diversity in Dubi's 1979 Oaxacan which he got from Charlie Garicia and big diversity in Charlie Garcia's grows of 1979 Oaxacan and 1990 Oaxacan. Many of Dubi's and one of Charlie's are extreme NLD and most are medium leaf which is typical of Mexican genetics.
 
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stoned-trout

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good read ..I am currently growing some old seeds and some newer hybrids they are making...the new stuff def has some indiga in it ....yeehaw...I made some more of the old seeds to sort through last run...big differences between old stock and newer stuff...I been hitting up friends for some of their seed stash to go along with mine...just a small side project and I prob will pick the best and make more seeds..
 

ThaiBliss

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I've seen these terpenes noted for Copalita Oaxacan sweet, spicey, pine, sweet cedar, incense, and frankincense, chocolate, coffee, tobacco.

Mine smelled musty, minty, and perhaps a bit of tobacco type aroma. I've smelled the musty before from other Mexican strains. The musty smell is from a terpene or combination of terpenes, not from poor handling as many believe.

BTW, Have you reviewed Dubi's 1979 Oaxacan breeding? I don't see some diversity in Dubi's 1979 Oaxacan which he got from Charlie Garicia and big diversity in Charlie Garcia's grows of 1979 Oaxacan and 1990 Oaxacan. Many of Dubi's and one of Charlie's are extreme NLD and most are medium leaf which is typical of Mexican genetics.

I have only seen a few pictures of Charlie's '79, and it must have been a narrow leaf one. It was very narrow, and very long leaflets. It was strikingly beautiful.

You plants looks beautiful as always.

:tiphat:

ThaiBliss
 

satva

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Copalita Oaxacan / Punto Rojo

Copalita Oaxacan / Punto Rojo

In both pictures - Copalita Oaxacan on the left in early flowering and Punto Rojo on the right in mid-flowering. This Copalita Oaxacan pheno-type looks stable, similar branchy growth to Punto Rojo. If I don't find a stable Copalita Oaxacan male, I have 1973 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry, Punto Rojo, Haze x Skunk males.

Growing these four strains, I should be able to see the Haze and the Mexican Acapulco Gold from Sam's Haze x Skunk.



The two exotic ones: "Alligator leaves" and "Double Serration leaves" look to be unstable sex / hermie from early flowering, most likely Thai genetics.

SamS - Haze x Skunk this males looks similar to Punto Rojo Colombian with a bit of medium leaf. Stable sex until the end.


Punto Rojo male


If two of Copalita Oaxacan Thai-like females hermie, can I make any assumptions? Will a randomly selected - stable sex Copalita Oaxacan male pass on the hermie/unstable sex trait?
 
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satva

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Destroyer x (1973 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry)

Destroyer x (1973 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry)

Destroyer x (1973 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry) - f2


I believe this pheno is Mexican dominate. The leaves are dark green with nice flowering structure cures to a nice "Red Hair", which is not from the 1973 Highland Guerrero genetics. The original Destroyer f1 - used a 1960's Mexican x Colombian male.

Destroyer has Mexican genetics, probably "Red Hair"
Blueberry has Highland Oaxacan Gold genetics,
Chimera's 1973 Highland Guerrero Green, and
SamS Haze x Skunk has Acapulco Gold

What I call "Red Hair"
 
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Alchemistic

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whoow here we go another 50 pages i need to read lol !
just found this topic.. i am currently running several diffrent mexican genetics :


-Mexican Haze (Kiwi seeds before called dampkring)
-Mexican Haze (Weed seed shop)
-Mextiza (cannabiogen)
-Jalisco IBL (eskobar)
-Eldorado (nirvana / sativa seedbank)
-Crockett's haze (DNA)
-Mexican haze ORZ

and doing a seed run with them....

anyway better get to start reading lol
 

satva

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1973 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry B130 - HMBB

1973 Highland Guerrero x Blueberry B130 - HMBB

HMBB flower




HMBB early flowering


HMBB male - HM dominate
 

weedtoker

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Just passin by to give praises to everyone who kept this gem of thread alive, here's my contribution with a lady from sinaloa (also big up for CBG for releasing the line) run indoors from clone.

close up at 11,5 weeks
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At 12 weeks
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and we keep her going so here's a little clone freshly rooted and ready to go.
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I still have 3 packs in the fridge and probably will snag a couple more soon, but I need to figure first where to run all of these outdoors.
 

satva

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Copalita Oaxacan

Copalita Oaxacan

Copalita Oaxacan - 1



Copalita Oaxacan -1 clone looking somewhat different (?) than the mother


Copalita oaxacan - 3 narrow leaf pheno-type. Very delicate growth structure, but not much vigor so far.
 
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