the Mexican Landraces Thread

[satva]

Cannabiogen's Destroyer (DS). harvested at ~16 weeks


Destroyer x Highland Mexican (DS dominate)


Destroyer x Highland Mexican ( HMBB dominate)


PS> Beautiful 1979 Oaxacan x Oaxacan colas Blan-k-for!. How long do they flower?

PPS> I'm growing sativas small indoors under relatively low light levels.

 

[blan-k-flor]

PS> Beautiful 1979 Oaxacan x Oaxacan colas Blan-k-for!. How long do they flower?

PPS> I'm growing sativas small indoors under relatively low light levels.

Arround 120 days outdoors bro

 

[Raw_Dog]

This thread has been bookmarked! Excellent thread by the way

 

[vermontman]

Cannabiogen's Destroyer (DS). harvested at ~16 weeks
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Destroyer x Highland Mexican (DS dominate)
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Destroyer x Highland Mexican ( HMBB domainte)
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PS> Beautiful 1979 Oaxacan x Oaxacan colas Blan-k-for!. How long do they flower?

PPS> I'm growing sativas small indoors under relatively low light levels.

Well Satva Your buds don't look like they are lacking in any way.
Nice job!

 

[satva]

Folk lore is that early 1970's Maui Wowie originated from Mexican seeds. Excerpt From Brotherhood of Eternal Love story.

In Mexico, Padilla ran a hacienda for Papa, overseeing the processing and distribution of the pot brought in by local farmers. For more than a year, he skimmed off the best bud and seeds. Meanwhile, he kept alive his dream of sailing to an island.

The dream came true when he and a few associates from the Brotherhood bought a 70-foot yacht in St. Thomas called the Jafje. The Jafje met Padilla in the summer of 1970 in the busy port of Manzanillo. From there, it set sail for Maui.

“It was five guys who had never sailed in their lives,” says Padilla. On board was a ton of the Mexican weed.

The trip should have taken less than two weeks. A month into it, one of the guys onboard, a smuggler with Brotherhood roots named Joe Angeline, noticed the stars weren’t right.

“He said, ‘Eddie, Orion’s belt should be right over our heads.’ But Orion’s belt was way, way south of us. We could barely make it out.”

When confronted, the captain confessed he didn’t know where the hell they were, but had been afraid to tell them. “There’s a hoist that hoists you all the way up to the top of the main mast and we hauled him up there and made him sit there for a day,” says Padilla. “That was funny.”

Eventually, they flagged down a freighter and learned they were more than a 1000 miles off course, dangerously close to the Japanese current. The freighter gave them 300 gallons of fuel and put them back on track to Maui. He’d made it to his island with a load of the finest Mexican marijuana.

“The seeds of that,” Padilla says, “became Maui Wowie.”

 

[burningfire]

stories like that always make me suspicious. how much food and water did they bring to survive a month on this yacht? I think most of that book is pure fiction. why would they bring a ton of marijuana to Maui? how big was the market there at the time?

 

[huligun]

Man this thread is killing it and teaching me a bit. Enjoying the hell out of it. Man I would like to smoke a little with some of you guys. I miss a good original sat buzz

 

[vermontman]

Folk lore is that early 1970's Maui Wowie originated from Mexican seeds. Excerpt From Brotherhood of Eternal Love story.

In Mexico, Padilla ran a hacienda for Papa, overseeing the processing and distribution of the pot brought in by local farmers. For more than a year, he skimmed off the best bud and seeds. Meanwhile, he kept alive his dream of sailing to an island.

The dream came true when he and a few associates from the Brotherhood bought a 70-foot yacht in St. Thomas called the Jafje. The Jafje met Padilla in the summer of 1970 in the busy port of Manzanillo. From there, it set sail for Maui.

“It was five guys who had never sailed in their lives,” says Padilla. On board was a ton of the Mexican weed.

The trip should have taken less than two weeks. A month into it, one of the guys onboard, a smuggler with Brotherhood roots named Joe Angeline, noticed the stars weren’t right.

“He said, ‘Eddie, Orion’s belt should be right over our heads.’ But Orion’s belt was way, way south of us. We could barely make it out.”

When confronted, the captain confessed he didn’t know where the hell they were, but had been afraid to tell them. “There’s a hoist that hoists you all the way up to the top of the main mast and we hauled him up there and made him sit there for a day,” says Padilla. “That was funny.”

Eventually, they flagged down a freighter and learned they were more than a 1000 miles off course, dangerously close to the Japanese current. The freighter gave them 300 gallons of fuel and put them back on track to Maui. He’d made it to his island with a load of the finest Mexican marijuana.

“The seeds of that,” Padilla says, “became Maui Wowie.”

Hey Satva
Great read not beyond possibility and certainly an interesting read. It is also known that a lot of genetics in Hawaii came from Thai and other Asian genetics as well as probably some Columbian strains. But that wouldn't account for the fact I was able to flower Maui Wowie in Near Boston back in the late seventies or for you in Kentucky? for that matter. So I would greatly suspect that there is Mexican background in there somewhere and also given the fact the close proximity of Hawaii to Mexico. And if that story is true a crew of 5 could survive on seeds if they had to. LOL
Then of course there is fishing
Peace man!

 

[Mikenite69]

Late 90's dj short blueberry sativa!

Late 90's dj short blueberry sativa!

Here is a pheno of dj shorts blueberry that was selected in the late 90's by myself. I was just recently reacquainted with her after losing her years ago. Sharing is caring and if I never shared this lady I wouldn't have her today. This one smells straight like blueberry the one everyone went crazy for back in late 90's early 2000's.

Any of you hardcore sativa lovers can u tell me what sativa and parental traits do u see that she carrys? Her high is very up will make you happy and feeling very euphoric.

Old blue sativa

 

[satva]

Her high is very up and will make you happy and feeling very euphoric.

With a poly-hybrid like Blueberry Sativa I'm not sure that the high from a poly-hybrid plant directly correlates with the growth characteristics. The viney branchy growth structure of your Blueberry plant(s) can be found in both Highland Mexican and Highland Thai. I like the combination of the high from Thailand and Mexican genetics.

In general ~ the high from Thailand genetics is heavenly, uplifting, spacious, clean, cerebral and makes you feel - "as it should be" very pleasureable and peaceful. The high from Mexican genetics is more connected to the earth, warm, happy, good vibes, good energy flow, the high is denser and more psychedelic.

As soon as I finish post ~ I'll sample the first colas of my two Destroyer x Highland Mexican cross. One is Hmong Thai dominate phenotype and the other is Highland Guerrero/Blueberry dominate

Destroyer (Meao Hmong Highland Thai pheno) high is cleaner, more spacious, and cerebral than Highland Mexican. Highland Mexican is more feel good euphoric. Destroyer is more cerebral and great for research of academic pursuits. Highland Mexican high was wonderful free-flowing energy with heighten sensory awareness. I associate the high from connoisseur Highland Mexican with heightened sensory awareness which is trippy and psychedelic.

Your Blueberry pheno looks sativa dominate phenotype. In general, Asian/Thailand plants have asymmetrical branching and Mexican / Colombian branching is symmetrical.

Highland Mexican smoke report:

Chimera's Highland Mexican Highland Guerrero x Blueberry Smoke / vaporization report.. The pheno represents the hybrid 14 weeks flowering. Wispy haze like flower stalks.

The high is heady felt around the eyes. Energy is expansive from the chest to the top of the head. My heart rate is increasing and the high is an excellent compliment for outdoor activities, hiking, biking, swimming, gardening, yoga, and the arts (music or painting).

HMBB high has a rolling vibration, waves of energy, and the increased heart rate are psychedelic. The high is euphoric with a nice energy flow that's magical at times. I like magic! My sense and awareness are heightened, colors are brighter, the sky is bluer, trailing images, and flashes out of the corners of my eyes - music sounds better. The high has a warm, feel good, creative free flowing energy.

The high does not increase mental activity. Thoughts and energy flow like a river without increased thought production, euphoric, expansive, sensory perceptions are intensified and psychedelic.

There is a connected energy to your world, sunlight and the sky seem magical - similar to Don Juan's concept of seeing. (Seeing = an energetic and direct connection to your world and environment). HMBB has a connoisseur high - a favorite smoke for its feel good, psychedelic,euphoric and active effect.

PS> The Maui Wowie I grew in the 1970's had a plant structure similar to a sub-tropical Mexican sativa and specifically the light green-yellow coloration often seen in Mexicans genetics during the flowering. I don't know much about yachting or fishing....Maui Wowie was no doubt a hybrid of imported and acclimated Hawaiian genetics.

 

[huligun]

This Mexican Landrace thread does seem to take some windy turns off the track but then somebody says the Maui Waui of old was Mexican. It is highly likely it Was Mexican just based on the era it was created. I personally did not see much Colombian or Thai before I heard of Maui Waui so it is highly probable that it was a nice Mexican. Some Mexican strains that passed my door in the early days were absolutely fantastic. The stuff was bricked, stored and smuggled in some unsavory ways. If someone smoked the stuff fresh off of the plant before all of that abuse they would naturally be surprised. If someone picked great phenos from those strains and grew them with loving care there is no telling what you could come up with. Hawaii has a great growing climate and soil, but is wrought with various pest and other issues that make it difficult to take the product home.

 

[ThaiBliss]

Please forgive me for being a bit off topic, but I met an old timer Hawaiian, I'm guessing 75+ years old, and discussed the weed from there extensively. He said that before the Indica came in, Hawaiian weed was predominately Thai, Cambodian, and African strains. He called out Swazi specifically, with a shit eating grin.

Talking about old time greats in general, he called out Mexican Red Hair specifically as one of the greats. I had not yet heard the story of the history of Maui Wowie and the connection to Mexico, or I would have asked him if the Mexican Red Hair was ever grown in Hawaii.

Here is a crazy thought... we should not discount the trade routes circling around in both directions. There is a Swazi Red Beard. Perhaps the genetics got to Mexico, got acclimated/selected, and made it's way back in the other direction. Wild speculation of course.

I sure wish there was someone holding Mexican Red Hair that would share. Mexican was the first weed I was smoking back in the late 60s and very early 70s. What I remember about the good stuff was that laughing my f**king ass off, was the most distinctive feature.

 

[Dawn Patrol]

What I remember about the good stuff was that laughing my f**king ass off, was the most distinctive feature.

Giggle weed - God I could use some so badly right now. Stoney Indica dominant strains have their use now that I'm older but I sure miss burning a bowl and just laughing my ass off.

Anybody got any modern strains that replicate this effect?

 

[misterD]

I'm in love with these mexican strain, also this thread!

Honestly i'm really piss of that "KUSH" invasion! I miss that old pot vibe, that why i also planning to grow a lot of mexican, carrabean strains. And prolly make a cross btw a s@nn**'s Jack and a mexican dad of Jalisco!!!

 

[vermontman]

OAXACAN GOLD

OAXACAN GOLD

Great post everyone!
Just a progress on Oaxacan Gold selected out purple pheno. These are my babies at 4 weeks. This is the first year I have actually started selecting out the purple phenos using a royal lady mom from last year and the purple seems to be shining through in a few.
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[PrimalHaze]

I sure wish there was someone holding Mexican Red Hair that would share. Mexican was the first weed I was smoking back in the late 60s and very early 70s. What I remember about the good stuff was that laughing my f**king ass off, was the most distinctive feature.

mexican red hair is what turned me on to getting nice and super high. everything else since has been compared to that early benchmark smoke. this was 1990 mex red hair though, not 60-70s.

I'm sure I have stuff in my seed collection that is better, but there is still a nostalgia for the mexican red hair. If I find any of it... ThaiBliss you'll be the first i'll share with.

-pH

 

[vermontman]

Please forgive me for being a bit off topic, but I met an old timer Hawaiian, I'm guessing 75+ years old, and discussed the weed from there extensively. He said that before the Indica came in, Hawaiian weed was predominately Thai, Cambodian, and African strains. He called out Swazi specifically, with a shit eating grin.

Talking about old time greats in general, he called out Mexican Red Hair specifically as one of the greats. I had not yet heard the story of the history of Maui Wowie and the connection to Mexico, or I would have asked him if the Mexican Red Hair was ever grown in Hawaii.

Here is a crazy thought... we should not discount the trade routes circling around in both directions. There is a Swazi Red Beard. Perhaps the genetics got to Mexico, got acclimated/selected, and made it's way back in the other direction. Wild speculation of course.

I sure wish there was someone holding Mexican Red Hair that would share. Mexican was the first weed I was smoking back in the late 60s and very early 70s. What I remember about the good stuff was that laughing my f**king ass off, was the most distinctive feature.

Hello ThaiBliss
I recall the only time I was able to get ahold of Maui Wowie back in 1979? I distinctly remember the taste was that of a minty pine forest. I was recently gifted by a wonderful member some Swazi red seed. He told me that this Swazi strain has a smell of mint and pine. So you may not be off base at all.

 

[Jhhnn]

Amazing specimens. Top shelf Mexican weed of long ago had special qualities, a very sociable feel good high with some energy, a special kind of optimism & imagination. Over toked, it could get a paranoid edge, too.

Some of the rare cultivars seen here are fascinating, but basically unobtainable for many of us. We get what we can via the intarwebs, which brings me to my question- is anybody familiar with Eskobar's Oaxaca & Jalisco inbred lines?

Pure Mexican lines seem to be quite rare in the marketplace.

 

[misterD]

They are legit to me, he get them from eltiberon back in 2012 or something!!!

 

[JamieShoes]

is anybody familiar with Eskobar's Oaxaca & Jalisco inbred lines?

I will be soon, I'm waiting on an order of the Oaxacan