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xxxstr8edgexxx

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the buds are very well grown and beautiful in every respect but that jason mask is fuckin sweet bro. did you harvest that with a machete? if you didnt you should have.
 

Bobbo4200

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I picked up a bag of MB for when my Ionic Bloom runs out. Will it be ok to just switch from Ionic to MB in flower? I have quite a bit of Ionic Grow, would it be alright to veg with Ionic Grow-and then switch to MB for flower? Thanks everyone
 

Ganja Maker

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You'll be fine whichever you choose. Might as well use up what you got, unless your plants show you that they love the MB better.
 

stoned40yrs

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Anyone running kiss MB with blumats? I'm wondering what ec you target in veg and bloom and if you add anything else.
 

Maj.Cottonmouth

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Anyone running kiss MB with blumats? I'm wondering what ec you target in veg and bloom and if you add anything else.

I have run MB in the past through my blumats and I am running it again after doing 6/9 Micro/Bloom for a while. I am not currently using anything except tap water and MB at 7 grams per gallon. I used to run SilcaBlast, Cal/Mag and Drip Clean but a while back I wanted to simplify and cut out everything except MB. I have nice meters but I don't check my pH or EC any more. My tap water and MB came out at 5.9 pH so often that I stopped checking and MB at 7 grams per gallon does not seem to give deficiencies at all or tip burn until the end of flower so I do not see the need to check it.

MB, blumats, coco and smart pots is in my humble opinion just simply the best. You get high quality and production in an easy to maintain setup. Imagine being able to not check on your grow for a week.

I assume you have seen our little blumat thread? Tons of great blumat info.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=111046
 

stoned40yrs

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I have run MB in the past through my blumats and I am running it again after doing 6/9 Micro/Bloom for a while. I am not currently using anything except tap water and MB at 7 grams per gallon. I used to run SilcaBlast, Cal/Mag and Drip Clean but a while back I wanted to simplify and cut out everything except MB. I have nice meters but I don't check my pH or EC any more. My tap water and MB came out at 5.9 pH so often that I stopped checking and MB at 7 grams per gallon does not seem to give deficiencies at all or tip burn until the end of flower so I do not see the need to check it.

MB, blumats, coco and smart pots is in my humble opinion just simply the best. You get high quality and production in an easy to maintain setup. Imagine being able to not check on your grow for a week.

I assume you have seen our little blumat thread? Tons of great blumat info.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=111046

THX for answering. Just what I wanted to hear-NOT.:biggrin: Yes I have managed to read every post in every blumat and Maxibloom thread on every forum and that's the problem. Black is black in one persons post and it's white in the next persons post. I didn't keep close count but I believe there are only 3 different people that say run the 7g/gal MB through the blumats and everyone else says to only feed the MB at an ec of between 1.0-1.2 which works out to less than 4g/gal MB. So I got classic N deficiency the first week in bloom on the lower 1/3 of my fan leaves and was wondering what's the cause. Just starting week 3 now. I suspected if you don't keep the formulas ratio then it ain't the damn formula anymore and you are bound to be short something:biggrin: Thanks I'm going dump more MB in my rez right now.:tiphat: If my plants all die I'm going to neg rep you:biggrin:
 
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paperchaser825

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Just want to throw this out there. You guys aren't necessarily running strains that are comparable. Yes, lots of strains do well @ 7g/gal, there are probably just as many that run @ 1.0-1.2 EC...there are also strains that need special attention.....Point being, if all other factors are in order, MB @ 7g/gal will give you dank buds that will surely not be deficient in any way GIVEN THAT ALL OTHER FACTORS ARE IN TIP TOP SHAPE (root health, room health (read atmosphere)). As far as the strength for using that same recipe in blumats...Imo it comes down to distribution line maintenance.....and I would imagine that has to do with a few factors, one of which is whether or not you run dripclean or something similar.
 

stoned40yrs

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Just want to throw this out there. You guys aren't necessarily running strains that are comparable. Yes, lots of strains do well @ 7g/gal, there are probably just as many that run @ 1.0-1.2 EC...there are also strains that need special attention.....Point being, if all other factors are in order, MB @ 7g/gal will give you dank buds that will surely not be deficient in any way GIVEN THAT ALL OTHER FACTORS ARE IN TIP TOP SHAPE (root health, room health (read atmosphere)). As far as the strength for using that same recipe in blumats...Imo it comes down to distribution line maintenance.....and I would imagine that has to do with a few factors, one of which is whether or not you run dripclean or something similar.

I knew it wouldn't take long for someone to chime in that black is white again:biggrin: I'm running 4 different strains and they all show N deficiency. The only dang thing I did different in the 2 weeks before bloom was drop the MB from 7g/gal to 4g/gal on peoples advice to lower ec to 1.0-1.2. AND NO ALL OTHER FACTORS WILL NEVER BE IN TIP TOP SHAPE IN MY GROW. Yes I use 1ml/gal dripclean but so what, there are way to many people doing fine without dripclean in blumats to even know if the crap is worth the coin. Too late anyway my ec is now back up to 1.8 and the correct amount of MB juice is flowing into my plants veins as we speak :biggrin:
 

stoned40yrs

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Update 10 days later. The lower fan leave yellowing stopped when I went back to 7g/gal MB. The ec is hovering around 1.6 and not 1.8. This total ec is with well water that has an ec of 0.3 itself.
 

MedResearcher

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Curious if anyone has tried the KISS method using Grow More, fertilizer. If so, with some success, which bag/s did you use?

Been using MB, well water, ph down, with really good results for a while now. Only reason I have become interested in the Grow More, is the price difference. MB is roughly 6 dollars a pound, while the Grow More is closer to 2-3 dollars a pound.

They have a wide range of different formulas, seems like they would be comparable to MB, at less than half the price.

Since this is the KISS thread; gonna add after experimenting with drip clean, half RO water, full RO water, well water, I honestly see no difference. So I have gone with the full KISS approach, well water, fertilizer, ph down.

Mr^^
 

RonSmooth

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Curious if anyone has tried the KISS method using Grow More, fertilizer. If so, with some success, which bag/s did you use?

Been using MB, well water, ph down, with really good results for a while now. Only reason I have become interested in the Grow More, is the price difference. MB is roughly 6 dollars a pound, while the Grow More is closer to 2-3 dollars a pound.

They have a wide range of different formulas, seems like they would be comparable to MB, at less than half the price.

Since this is the KISS thread; gonna add after experimenting with drip clean, half RO water, full RO water, well water, I honestly see no difference. So I have gone with the full KISS approach, well water, fertilizer, ph down.

Mr^^


You'd have to look at the NPK ratios, the micronutrients and trace elements in the Grow More and see how it compares to Maxibloom.

That being said, MB is relatively inexpensive and has a proven track record. A $20 bag will produce pounds and pounds of quality bud.

There are also hundreds of pages of information on MB & KISS method available for free here on the forum. Lots of people with experience, results and photos to prove it.

To me, MB is a steal.
 
Just wanted to throw my hat in here and say that Dyna Gro Foliage Pro and NOTHING ELSE has been killing it for us in a very commercial environment for some time now.

Previously we used House & Garden, Maxibloom and Sensi A & B. The Dyna, 1 part in pure coco is doing just fine. Feed>Feed>Water and doing a slurry test on the Coco every 14 days to ensure no lockout. Also feeding Drip Clean with every feed like many commercial growers.

Can't beat it.
 

xxxstr8edgexxx

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Just wanted to throw my hat in here and say that Dyna Gro Foliage Pro and NOTHING ELSE has been killing it for us in a very commercial environment for some time now.

Previously we used House & Garden, Maxibloom and Sensi A & B. The Dyna, 1 part in pure coco is doing just fine. Feed>Feed>Water and doing a slurry test on the Coco every 14 days to ensure no lockout. Also feeding Drip Clean with every feed like many commercial growers.

Can't beat it.

What strains you running?
 

RonSmooth

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Just wanted to throw my hat in here and say that Dyna Gro Foliage Pro and NOTHING ELSE has been killing it for us in a very commercial environment for some time now.

Previously we used House & Garden, Maxibloom and Sensi A & B. The Dyna, 1 part in pure coco is doing just fine. Feed>Feed>Water and doing a slurry test on the Coco every 14 days to ensure no lockout. Also feeding Drip Clean with every feed like many commercial growers.

Can't beat it.

You could beat it with feed > feed > feed and no slurry test. ; )

What is your water source? Does the Foliage Pro have sufficient Ca & Mg to be used with soft or RO water?

I suppose DG would be easier to mix & measure in a large commercial operation. I used DG before I started maxibloom. Definitely my alternative if I stop using maxibloom.

I like not having to buy multiple bottles (grow, bloom, etc) Which is one reason why I choose MB. If DG foliage pro produces results like MB and it is the only product I need for the entire grow, I would consider switching.

My tap water is "soft" so if the nutrient doesnt provide enough Ca & Mg, I have to supplement. MB is the first I've used that doesnt need cal-mag added.
 

Bobbo4200

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Just want to say I finished the rest of my Ionic Flowering nutes, and bought a bag of MB a bit ago. Shit's easy peasy for sure! Love just being able to throw a small scoop into a gallon of water, and it's ready after pH'ing! No more flowering additives, just a smidge of Calmag here and there. I still have bout a 1/3 of a gallon of the Ionic Grow, but have been just using it as a paper weight, or weight to hold things closed lol... Might just switch to MB for the whole cycle, as the lady I have in a 1 gallon coco hempy loves it!
Just wanted to say thanks for this thread, and to all the great-helpful people! MB is great
 
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