thats why it is interesting only hempy got the vacation, alone him can t make the "haze wars"
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The Haze discussion thread
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Exactly, and this is the The Haze discussion thread, not the Haze hybrid thread.
TheDarkStorm
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Whoever named this cannabis variety “Haze” was most definitely some kind of seer with a great sense of humor.
One can but conclude that we humans know absolutely nothing about almost everything, Haze included
Hey Yo Sammy.....I just accidentally flagged this post of yours....to management the flag was accidentally an was a mistake due to my big fingers....can we make sure that yo sammy has no trouble due to my mistake.
yo sammy I was trying to use your post as a quote....did you by any chance get to try thr south african x hazeC cutting that was around back in the day.......if you did get to try it..do you think you would be able to recognize it again now ?
thanks.......sorry about the flag .
so calling europeans "trash" is part of the discussion?
I am agree, totally....
There may be that tempers warm up, when there is passion it happens, but certain things should be arranged in a private way ....
RingtailCanyon
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I didn’t actually mean purple buds from Tom’s haze. The punto rojos and mangobiches can put out purple buds that cure to red.
I was talking about that one haze with purple leaves and silver/green buds. That one seems pretty unique to the line.
I was talking about that one haze with purple leaves and silver/green buds. That one seems pretty unique to the line.
I'll just leave this here!
Robert C. Clarke, Cannabis Culture #60
Origins of the Species
“The Original Haze is a late-maturing variety from Central California and was almost always grown in greenhouses, allowing it to finish in December or January. Original Haze was always connoisseur stash, and even in the 1970s it sold for as much as $200 an ounce. Original Haze is a pure sativa stabilised hybrid arising from crossing all of the best females with a male of a different imported sativa variety each year. Starting with Colombian/Mexican hybrids grown from seeds from the first crop, a South Indian male plant was used as a pollen source the second year, and a Thaimale plant was used the third year. Depending on which year Haze seeds were collected, they resembled either Colombian, South Indian or Thaiplants. Original Haze varies in taste from citrus Thai notes through the gamut of sativa highlights to the deep spicy purple Colombian flavour most common in Dutch Haze cultivars.”
I'm a Believer because I ran RC Clarkes selection from Todd McCormick and its old and spicy and completely different from the Tom Hill's Haze I ran which is indeed citrusy and fresh, did both side by side infact, might again!
LT
Nah, they were Colombian plants grown in Mexico, Thailand, India ... lol Joke! Although I am convinced that original haze was created by 4 different sativas, (or maybe even more) I have come to the conclusion that it is better to leave it alone, at least here, it would fuel the useless discussions that haunt this (and other) Haze thread. ..
Hey ,
i will say my concern is not to have the history of stuff misinterpreted and then rewritten differently ,
that is what hempy was doing earlier by saying things like sam has never even seen original haze ,
so how would he know what its like ,, etc ,
that is plainly wrong , and i cant stand around while folks do that to further their own agendas ,
i would have written to sam to ask him to clear those things up,
but im sure he has had enough folks trying to retell his story over the years ,
and just couldnt be bothered with it anymore ,
i fully understand that ...
in social media now people are having to become responsible for what they write ,
and the emphasis is that they say the truth , or they will suffer the consequences of what they say ,
thats fair enough because in real life the same is true ,
how folks act on the internet is sometimes not the same as they would in real life often ,
they hide behind an anonymous handle and can say any old rubbish they like ,
im fine with that as i am the same online as i am in real life ,
i have met many icmaggers in person and they will vouch for this,
i dont hide behind stuff and i stand firmly for my beliefs ,
i try to say the right thing and do the right thing ,
and im generally concerned about how i treat people ,
and i treat them how i would like to be treated ...
and according to how they act,
but i wont tolerate bullshit , online , or in real life ...
There is only a nevil vs sam culture if we make it like that ,
so lets not do that ,
we all know both made contributions to the story ,
maybe we should just see beyond those first steps ,
and look towards what we do next ,
if we do it together , then the division can end ,
we cannot change the past , so lets not try ,
it cannot be rewritten and nor should it be ,
lets just move forward , together ....
i will say my concern is not to have the history of stuff misinterpreted and then rewritten differently ,
that is what hempy was doing earlier by saying things like sam has never even seen original haze ,
so how would he know what its like ,, etc ,
that is plainly wrong , and i cant stand around while folks do that to further their own agendas ,
i would have written to sam to ask him to clear those things up,
but im sure he has had enough folks trying to retell his story over the years ,
and just couldnt be bothered with it anymore ,
i fully understand that ...
in social media now people are having to become responsible for what they write ,
and the emphasis is that they say the truth , or they will suffer the consequences of what they say ,
thats fair enough because in real life the same is true ,
how folks act on the internet is sometimes not the same as they would in real life often ,
they hide behind an anonymous handle and can say any old rubbish they like ,
im fine with that as i am the same online as i am in real life ,
i have met many icmaggers in person and they will vouch for this,
i dont hide behind stuff and i stand firmly for my beliefs ,
i try to say the right thing and do the right thing ,
and im generally concerned about how i treat people ,
and i treat them how i would like to be treated ...
and according to how they act,
but i wont tolerate bullshit , online , or in real life ...
There is only a nevil vs sam culture if we make it like that ,
so lets not do that ,
we all know both made contributions to the story ,
maybe we should just see beyond those first steps ,
and look towards what we do next ,
if we do it together , then the division can end ,
we cannot change the past , so lets not try ,
it cannot be rewritten and nor should it be ,
lets just move forward , together ....
We all get shit wrong from time to time. Being able to admit when wrong goes a long way. When posts get read incorrectly that's where the drama starts.
I grew Zamal x THH and MadMacs Original Haze recently , I thought both were bad , the zamal x thh being the better one and the more interesting one, could possibly be good breeding material. The MadMac Original Haze is quite different line than what you get from the hazes from Nevil . There is no frankincense and the plants/ high is not extreme like a Nevils Haze. Also the MadMacs OH is like slow plant , bad vigour , small leaves , not very interesting smells, I cant see how outcrossing it would bring magic but I made seeds from everything and I might try it later. They both were weakish high, the Zamal x THH being the more interesting one , nothing legendary about em.
I really thought both were a waste of time compared to an old Nevils Haze. The Nevils Haze feels much more rushy extreme sativa , although it has 25% indica . A good old Nevils Haze is like lightyears ahead in all aspects ( growing and smoking ) compared to the Zamal x THH and the MadMac OH I grew.
I really thought both were a waste of time compared to an old Nevils Haze. The Nevils Haze feels much more rushy extreme sativa , although it has 25% indica . A good old Nevils Haze is like lightyears ahead in all aspects ( growing and smoking ) compared to the Zamal x THH and the MadMac OH I grew.
TheDarkStorm
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I think thats what sam refers to as his thai laos....I cant rember the year but from the 70's.....sam had afew old thais not long back.....im sure reef managed to get some.... I do also remember seeing on one of sams old listenings a hybrid containing thai haze and kerlan in one seed...no skunk in that.
from what i recall reading ,
sam collected golden , off the stick , thai from sakon nakhon ,
which is in the north east of thailand towards the Laos border ,
i think that is what he has used in some of his thai crosses ,
maybe not all , i cant be sure of course , but i recall him saying it was his favorite repeadly ,
only second to original haze ,
so i suspect its what his preference to breed with would be also .....
Well Said
During the ‘90’s we grew DurbanHaze.
Can’t recall it being a Haze A or C hybrid for sure but given how I remember her specific aroma & potency traits I doubt her to be a Haze A hybrid although like I’ve said, I can’t exclude the possibility 100%.
In certain aspects this cultivar was more practical to grow. She didn’t stretch like the other selected hybrids and was slightly shorter flowering, took 12 weeks to finish her, taking her longer just didn’t do her any justice.
The main reason why she didn’t got offered much back then was that although being somewhat more practical in size and duration she was a much more delicate plant needing a more delicate approach to keep her happy and let her shine.
Small sized solid round shaped flowers, great density and greasy/sticky., pretty potent stuff, nothing dark, kicks one straight into a lucid dreaming experience.
I loved her unique character.
As far as I know she got culled by “Justice” for being a very dangerous plant that needed to be destroyed to save mankind from eternal damnation.
Ain’t we but some lucky few…
...CR500AF...
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is he native american ? cos if he aint lol
yea the pedestal bit very cringey i get some are fans of each,, woopedeedoo guess what no one cares lol i was thinking it could be short term memory loss every couple of days they forget previous argument lol since when did being good at anything or a breeder of anything have anything to do with someone who is honest or gives a fuck lol
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