The Haze discussion thread

[Chi13]

I don't mind hybrids or multi hybrids. They have their place and I am growing a haze hybrid now which I am excited about. The quality of weed today is consistant, but whats missing is those superb diversity of highs that would cut through everything els.

When I first found out about seedbanks my first thought was that wow, I can now buy a Thai Stick seed and grow my own. Similar to what Hempy said about Panama Red. What a disappointment.

While I doubt I will ever have proper Thai sticks again, I have some landrace varieties that look legit from TRSC, like Thai and Manipuri. Also picked up some sativa from Vanuatu that was on the smuggling route from South America to Austrlaia, that are meant to be descended from Mangobiche. There are places in the world that few Westerners visit such as Burma, some parts of India and China, maybe parts of Indonesia. I don't think all is yet lost, but a good deal is.

Hempy would be correct in that a lot of old Australian growers would have some gems, no doubt, but they will die out unless a younger generation becomes interested. The opposite seems to be the case. Most young people I know are just after the latest American hybrid with shiny bag appeal and a narcotic couch lock high.

 

[Ghost Protocol]

Location plays a big role Hammer age to a degree but your not going to find the old sativa gems in say Seattle or Canada or Virginia .

We have the weather here and home grown has been a big thing here since i started smoking. Yes some grow commercially but most grow their own.

People here rate there smoke on the 3 tear scale GOOD / OK / SHIT no hype i never knew what hype was until i joined the forums good weed is good weed and lasts the test of time.

Horseshit nature over nurture you dont get to start talking like a woman matters how you bring them up and stand by me and all that bullshit.

 

[Donald Mallard]

The US government spent billions if not trillions on the war on drugs but the cartels spread the seed far and wide by exporting cannabis.

Genetics we saw in the 70s still exist both in house and abroad from the locations they originated from.

The largest threat to these genetics was not the US Government but came more from the Dutch hybrids that people imported in.

You only need to look at Jamaica to see this you see NL plants Skunk plants growing were only sativas once grew.

Ironically that threat came from nevil maybe his intentions were good or maybe it was just to make money, either way he was the origin of the threat you speak of..

 

[Ghost Protocol]

You channeling your inner bitch and sam channeling his inner jew and you can both suck my pucker.

 

[@hempy]

Ironically that threat came from nevil maybe his intentions were good or maybe it was just to make money, either way he was the origin of the threat you speak of..

Not just Nevil Donald and for the record i told him that he got upset with me but i say it as i see it. I said why didn't you offer pure Thais old Colombians so on.Nevil told me he did early on but there was no demand for them people wanted faster variety's as most dont have the weather we do.

 

[Ghost Protocol]

Nevil is euro trash and never had even clue #1 of the epic weed the west was privy to.

 

[@hempy]

My plan with haze is this.

To use a Nevil haze male and cross it to a Thai female then to dig threw them to seek out ancestral haze plants as the male has the ancestral information.

My other plan is to just try and make my own parallel type Haze line using Thai and a red Colombian.

 

[Ghost Protocol]

He brought jack shit from under he just stoled what he could from sam like a total douchebag

 

[Donald Mallard]

Location plays a big role Hammer age to a degree but your not going to find the old sativa gems in say Seattle or Canada or Virginia .

We have the weather here and home grown has been a big thing here since i started smoking. Yes some grow commercially but most grow their own.

People here rate there smoke on the 3 tear scale GOOD / OK / SHIT no hype i never knew what hype was until i joined the forums good weed is good weed and lasts the test of time.

What happened to location etc makes no difference because its all genetic?
oh thats only pulled out for your defence i see but its different when you want to use it in a debate or argument.. lol lol

 

[Ghost Protocol]

My plan with haze is this.

To use a Nevil haze male and cross it to a Thai female then to dig threw them to seek out ancestral haze plants as the male has the ancestral information.

My other plan is to just try and make my own parallel type Haze line using Thai and a red Colombian.

If your thai was worth shit you would never contimplate contaminating it with any haze let alone some bullshit hybrid haze.

 

[Ghost Protocol]

What the fuck happened to honesty

 

[@hempy]

What happened to location etc makes no difference because its all genetic?
oh thats only pulled out for your defence i see but its different when you want to use it in a debate or argument.. lol lol

What are you on about Donald you having a bad Flash back ?

 

[@hempy]

If your thai was worth shit you would never contimplate contaminating it with any haze let alone some bullshit hybrid haze.

The Thai will remain pure Tom but why not try and replicated Haze ?.

 

[Ghost Protocol]

You never even smoked haze how can you replicate it you like bigherb chasing down some inferior shit lol.

 

[Tom Hill]

Badda bing

 

[@hempy]

I have smoked lots of sativas in my life Tom from African black to the finest of Thais all i smoke is sativa and heavy sativa lines..

Nevil's haze work is what i have grown and with selection i have found plants that i would put up against the best there is out there. (yea i get it you dont think much of him )

No i haven't grow possi haze or the flying dutchmans version but i grew and smoked Nevils versions and Shantis.

The first time i smoked Nevil's haze the first thing that came to me was how it reminded me of the early Mullum madnes and the tripping weed we had here. The strong haze high is not new to the old growers and smokers here Tom hype and marketing was.

 

[RingtailCanyon]

https://youtu.be/Y1D3a5eDJIs
the haze theme song

 

[Tom Hill]

I have smoked lots of sativas in my life Tom from African black to the finest of Thais all i smoke is sativa and heavy sativa lines..

Nevil's haze work is what i have grown and with selection i have found plants that i would put up against the best there is out there. (yea i get it you dont think much of him )

No i haven't grow possi haze or the flying dutchmans version but i grew and smoked Nevils versions and Shantis.

The first time i smoked Nevil's haze the first thing that came to me was how it reminded me of the early Mullum madnes and the tripping weed we had here. The strong haze high is not new to the old growers and smokers here Tom hype and marketing was.

You are an honest man Hempy and in my book that is enough.

 

[Tom Hill]

https://youtu.be/D8rViF7V_oA

 

[willydread]

Beautiful. What size pots?

Thanks, Purple plant is Tom Hill Haze, half liter pot, green plant is THH x Original Hz, one and a half liter bottle cut in half ....