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I call That an uplifting active mind high.. Lots of sat have done that for me. Zero has given me any type of trippy high.
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Awesome addition to that discussion lol..
I've smoked plenty of hazes in early 1970 to 1982. I stopped for a bit while I focused on my career. If Sam or the haze brothers ever shared their flowers I might have smoked some. There was plenty around. I lived very close to them. I grew up in Santa Cruz. Specifically, Ben Lomond Ca. It wouldn't be so far fetched that didn't cross paths with them at some point, meeting new people was not uncommon with us stoners. Living in that area lots of us knew some of the same people. If finding trippy weed is as easy as buying those seeds it's unlikely I had not smoked similar. Their are others in this thread that would disagree its that easy to find trippy weed. I'm not unique in that regard. There are others that don't get a trippy high from weed. Again why that is so hard to understand is a puzzle to me.
@hempy
The Haze Whisperer
I have been very lucky in life to come across and smoke some very special cannabis lines that people like DJ Short and others talk of like a mythical experience from the past sadly many of these lines are no more things like African Black Maui and many other special unique sativas we older ones grew up on are hard to find now if at all.
For over 2 decades i have sat reading so many people on forums claiming to have this and that from the past and few if any of these lines looked like any of what we saw. Thais with 11 week flowing to panama and Colombian reds that have no red flowers people are not experiencing the real deals of the past this needs to be stated because there not smoking the same lines of the past..
They smoke these lines today and think wow this is not as good as i thought the reality is there not smoking what we did back in the 70s or even 80s to know the difference you had to of smoked them in the past.
A quality sativa will change your world and as a smoker in today's community finding the quality of old is no easy task you need the very best genetics available you then need to have luck on your side you then need to germinate seed and select threw what you can to find plants that can equal any thing of the past and they can be found and people do find them but it is no easy task in 2021 sadly.
A 4 hour plus electric high that rattles you to the core can be found so can the old Colombian highs as can the Euphoric highs.
20 or more years ago people growing out things like Nevil's haze and the other haze lines from Nevile along with Sam's Ohaze all reported extreme sativa experiences that reminded many of the older growers of things they had smoked in the 70s you dont seam to be reading that these days.
For over 2 decades i have sat reading so many people on forums claiming to have this and that from the past and few if any of these lines looked like any of what we saw. Thais with 11 week flowing to panama and Colombian reds that have no red flowers people are not experiencing the real deals of the past this needs to be stated because there not smoking the same lines of the past..
They smoke these lines today and think wow this is not as good as i thought the reality is there not smoking what we did back in the 70s or even 80s to know the difference you had to of smoked them in the past.
A quality sativa will change your world and as a smoker in today's community finding the quality of old is no easy task you need the very best genetics available you then need to have luck on your side you then need to germinate seed and select threw what you can to find plants that can equal any thing of the past and they can be found and people do find them but it is no easy task in 2021 sadly.
A 4 hour plus electric high that rattles you to the core can be found so can the old Colombian highs as can the Euphoric highs.
20 or more years ago people growing out things like Nevil's haze and the other haze lines from Nevile along with Sam's Ohaze all reported extreme sativa experiences that reminded many of the older growers of things they had smoked in the 70s you dont seam to be reading that these days.
romanoweed
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So even Haze lost its Power? I personally would choose the oldtimers Haze if i was searching for a Columbian. And the Panama Red from snowhigh still one of best. Funnily very few seem to take the opportunity and write Snowhigh a Mail, and ask for it. I think you only get it offered if you bought allready some couple Things. I also saw a Columbian Red, and other Lines that he doesent List at first, but some People get them. This would also be something to consider, if you can afford it.
Sometimes it feels people are also shy of risking Money, and only use the Seedbanks with reputation and low Price.
I know some stuff my already be inbreeding depressed, or whatever, but the said Lines would be my Choice, if i were int columbians.
Sometimes it feels people are also shy of risking Money, and only use the Seedbanks with reputation and low Price.
I know some stuff my already be inbreeding depressed, or whatever, but the said Lines would be my Choice, if i were int columbians.
Sorry to quote just this bit, but I disagree.
I take tolerance breaks and I can assure that when I start again average or even strong weed does not turn into psychadelic weed. It hits a little harder, but the high does not change. The last break I took was nearly 3 months which is well and truly long enough to get it out of your system. There were strains that were truly psychadelic imo.
Psychadelic pot was much more common when I first started smoking but seed breeding has weeded out the long flowering sativa's where the magic lies. Too much indica and selection for odour, fast flowering and yeild, rather than selection for the high.
OldCoolSativa
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Amen brother.
In my humble opinion I believe that psychedelic weed is the result of many factors, even I take breaks of 2/3 months a year, and not always when I start smoking again I get psychedelic effects ... I would say it depends on genetics, the seasoning of the weed and the predisposition of the smoker (what is psychedelic for me, maybe it is not for you)...
I usually grow tropical sativas, so plants that are not very productive and fragrant, with a very long flowering, and they are not always psychedelic ....
I usually grow tropical sativas, so plants that are not very productive and fragrant, with a very long flowering, and they are not always psychedelic ....
Let's not forget the older the weed is the more the cannabinoids change. Lots will play a role in the high you percieve.
CannaT
starin' at the world through my rearview
''Psychadelic pot was much more common when I first started smoking.''
I think this says it all.
Every grass is psychedelic ,all what is good grown will change your perception and its psydelic.
Changed perception can vary in scale from:
Stoney unable to move i need to take horizontal postion right now tipe of ''trip''(high) to first class psydelic expirence on weed where you look at world and dont belive how it is beautiful and all connected in one all have its purpse,also I expirence dense and exorcism like trips flashbacks of life situations.....to clear my emotions/traumas from various life situations...having deep meditations on strong weed. Open totaly new way of cure with weed.Weed can dissolve knots of traumas from past.
Essentially what the body endures, the head suffers. what the head endures suffers the body.
if one of them fails, death ensues.
So i heal my self from varoius cramps in the body mechanism caused by traumas from the past. Such as overdoses, traffic accidents. paranoia, fears, violence ....
If something bad happens to us some time.
Body always remember and snake part of brain. And they are always at atention to realy heal something you need to goes in this part of our progam and reprogame blockade to make this acction again.
In reality to simplfy what i wrote is one example.
If you ever have car accident or broken arm....your body every day every minute think in
depths of the brain that it will happen again. The closer you are in situtation like that the more stiff it will be and more stressed.
People who had car accidents have higher level of stress while driving in car.
It mind thing making craps in body to let you out of this situation so you feel more exausted.
second expirience if you had sprained ankle. Your mind will tell you dont jump high dont run to fust cuz body send its messiges to it that it will not make it second time if trauma happens.
But yes I agree there are very rear strains/cuts to make '' first class psydelic expirence on weed.''
What we comon found in great Sativa cuts.
This is my way of looking at weed and psydelic expirience with it.
I use my weed mostly as medicine and for meditation.
I even dont like to be high all the time.Its waiste od weed and waist of health/time.
Best strains for meditations I use Sativas cuts to heal my emotions and brain.
Indica hybrids and indicas i use to heal my body.
romanoweed
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Psychedelic Weedexperiences seem to be happening when:
A: People are young (acording you, i have never gathered the Ages of Tripreporters)
B: Weed in- or from the 70s was used
C: SE Asian / Middleamerican genetics are used
I think you forgetting that Chi13 smoked his first pot in the 70s. This could be the reason, alltho you idea is possible, here are other ideas.
If you are open minded, and you search for tripreports, you also will find that there is the Pattern of Points B, and C becoming obvious.
I searched for Tripreports loooooong Time, and those things came up.
If people ever had a psychedelic Trip on Super Kush, cause they were first Timers, i wont rule out, i have heard one person telling something outstanding about her Firsttimeexperience, but this person dint name the Strain, probably it was that she got the old Thai Pot. or Super kush.
All i can say wich patterns are obvious if you search the Net, and its Point B and C that stand out
A: People are young (acording you, i have never gathered the Ages of Tripreporters)
B: Weed in- or from the 70s was used
C: SE Asian / Middleamerican genetics are used
I think you forgetting that Chi13 smoked his first pot in the 70s. This could be the reason, alltho you idea is possible, here are other ideas.
If you are open minded, and you search for tripreports, you also will find that there is the Pattern of Points B, and C becoming obvious.
I searched for Tripreports loooooong Time, and those things came up.
If people ever had a psychedelic Trip on Super Kush, cause they were first Timers, i wont rule out, i have heard one person telling something outstanding about her Firsttimeexperience, but this person dint name the Strain, probably it was that she got the old Thai Pot. or Super kush.
All i can say wich patterns are obvious if you search the Net, and its Point B and C that stand out
romanoweed
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The average Weed
If i go back to my first Experiences: it wasnt lovely, it wasnt good, very mellow it was, thats probably what kept my Interest in weed upright.
more rarely it was very kind of Happy up, but not very special. Probably some Haze type weed
Nothing big to mention so far, just some Sensations of beeing in a Cloud, Discolorations, thats what happend the more Hazy the Weed was, but nothing special.
The Tripweed
After a While (around a Year since i started) i got my two strongest smokes in my Life, the strenght was uncomparable, even i would rate the average weed with propper potency, this Tripweed felt like a diferent Level.
Was it just cause i was open to weed this Day? But well: The Tripweed-bud that i smoked looked remarkably different than anything i ever saw. Im painter, i can see differences..
Well it looked like the Weed from Thailand/Columbia. Trichomes were very very elongated, so everyone would seen there is a Difference. Thin like Banboo... I dindt get a Strainname, but logically what type weed it was.
Was very very Psychedelic , and outstanding, no sideeffects nothing. Not unlovely like any other Weed more or less was. Just real good psychedelic Weed. And my Lifesituation was pretty much same like any other day. So: i think genetics matter alot, Lifesituations... im not shure
Conclusion
First Time-ish smoking of average Swiss Weed (was pretty high Standard) did not necessarly cause strong Hallucinations.. It didnt do anything at all really.
After a Year smoking BambooThin, special looking weed on two Occasions caused strong Hallucinations.
Would it still do that today? Havent tested it again, dont know
If i go back to my first Experiences: it wasnt lovely, it wasnt good, very mellow it was, thats probably what kept my Interest in weed upright.
more rarely it was very kind of Happy up, but not very special. Probably some Haze type weed
Nothing big to mention so far, just some Sensations of beeing in a Cloud, Discolorations, thats what happend the more Hazy the Weed was, but nothing special.
The Tripweed
After a While (around a Year since i started) i got my two strongest smokes in my Life, the strenght was uncomparable, even i would rate the average weed with propper potency, this Tripweed felt like a diferent Level.
Was it just cause i was open to weed this Day? But well: The Tripweed-bud that i smoked looked remarkably different than anything i ever saw. Im painter, i can see differences..
Well it looked like the Weed from Thailand/Columbia. Trichomes were very very elongated, so everyone would seen there is a Difference. Thin like Banboo... I dindt get a Strainname, but logically what type weed it was.
Was very very Psychedelic , and outstanding, no sideeffects nothing. Not unlovely like any other Weed more or less was. Just real good psychedelic Weed. And my Lifesituation was pretty much same like any other day. So: i think genetics matter alot, Lifesituations... im not shure
Conclusion
First Time-ish smoking of average Swiss Weed (was pretty high Standard) did not necessarly cause strong Hallucinations.. It didnt do anything at all really.
After a Year smoking BambooThin, special looking weed on two Occasions caused strong Hallucinations.
Would it still do that today? Havent tested it again, dont know
This is very true. I have a bit of culled Todd's that I wish I kept as it turned out better after 9 months or so. The 2 I kept also increased in potency and longevity over time. I am waiting to see what happens with THH. They are about 2 month in now and I have 3 I kept for now. The extremely thin braided one seems to be improving as does the one that looks like madmac's, still braided but more budding overall. The long flowering one needs more testing.
My question for the old timers that were smoking in the 70's is how well was the bud cured if at all and how long do you think it was cured?
- Hmm - I was toking in the 70's - but never heard about 'curing' cannabis until the 80's - most all of the 'erb I toked in the 70's looked to be only sun dried and not 'cured' per-se - although the Thai that was around back then was very smooth - and could have been 'cured' somewhat -
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Yeh I first started with cannabis in the mid 70's. I used to score a lot of Jamaican and Columbian Gold grown in Jamaica, it was always bricked and the cure happened while it was being smuggled, unfortunately some could be a bit mouldy at times. The gold was the favourite. I grew throughout the eighties without knowing about curing until the nineties.
i didnt start toking until the 80s,
in fact it was 1981 ,
but i thought a lot about the concept of cured cannabis after we all tried to reproduce some from seed within the bud ,
we couldnt get it the same , firstly our climate didnt allow it ,
and secondly i assumed the time taken for the pot too arrive to our shores ,
and then be slowly distributed among us all , had an affect on the pot , ie cured it ,
i suspected it took up to a year for it to be dried , packed , finally leave the shores of origin ,
and arrive to us and be distributed ,
it could have been longer , but my estimation was near enough to 12 months , give or take ..
those who have cured their crop for 12 months know there are quite a few changes that take place ,
as long as it is treated properly prior to the cure and of course stored right during it ...
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