The Haze discussion thread

[Hammerhead]

I think we all can agree there are similar compounds in cannabis as in hulusingenics. Lots of things do. IMO cannabis and shrooms have nowhere near the same type of effects. Some of us do not!!!!!! have psychedelic effects from any kind of weed!!!.. I think the larger baffling question to me is why is it so difficult to get some of us don't have psychedelic experiences from cannabis or haze in particular. I still microdose psilocybin often. I do not get the same effects from haze or any strains as I do with shrooms. I wish I did so it would be 1 less thing I like to use that improves my mental health. With so much stupidity going on anything that helps is appreciated.

 

[romanoweed]

Forgot to highlight perfectly that not everyone seems to reach this effect. Smoked same Joint together, i tripped ,colleges not really.

I think cannabis is rather not just doing this one Thing, almost predictable. Its rather that you experience a personal Thing of yourselve. A thing thats in the world .

"Like when People describe Mushrooms, describe seeing Things in the Air, or on the Wall. It often fails for cannabis to do such predictions. People describe quiet diverse things, even under the Trip-experienced Cannausers. "

Its rather like that, than a strict Programm playing no matter what.

I also recall like i decided on the very few Canna-lucinations if i wanna go into them. Like i could steer it. Atleast one Time. The trip was like knocking: hello, and i anwsered : hy there. haha
And it entered . hah

But really, i am reserching it alot, and i can see how rare the Tripweed has become. The Tripreports predominantly come from the 70s Stoners and 70s Weed.

Cannabis carries this Potential only if its Breed in a certain way, seemingly. Everything reproduced toooo often, or selected differently, inbreeding depressed, im pretty shure will loose that Quality.

So, how often have you smoked the old 70s Tripweed that was rare even then?
Yes, but like said, in the end, its very individual if you trip/or not, but Cannabis is a Hallucinogenic for some

 

[sallyforthDeleted member 75382]

A couple of folks me included have tripped out on white rhino x pre 98 bubba Kush. A pheno I found is just so psychoactive. The time dilation alone is a trip, 10 minutes can seem like hours. For instance when eating, the food enters the mouth a second before the mind sees and realises it. You cannot drive as speed and distance is all mixed up. It's an indica but gets you so high. I love it and I am biased towards Sativa's and Dom hybrids.

 

[star crash]

Personally I especially noticed the “trippy - ness” and also the mild hallucinogenic nature of marijuana after any substantial period of abstinence … Not talking about LSD or psilocybin type of trippy I’m talking about the “marijuana” type of trippy and yes there can be visuals , patterns , mandalas & 2001 space odyssey landscapes etc.

 

[Sub24ox7]

I used to get trippy effects a long... time... ago.. I think it was the type of weed yes but most importantly I had zero tolerance at the time. Tolerance is a bitch..
for me also it was totally different to mushrooms. Much more subtle.. a feeling.. things seem weird trippy etc.. then I would think about how weird life is etc. ponder reflect
i have also have had a strain that made me think like terrets syndrome just not out loud over and over think things I didn’t want to. Only had that once. Idk I have smoked a lot of weed over the decades.

 

[@hempy]

I never toughed mushrooms but i did take lots of LSD and for me the experience or affect of the LSD was like a really strong sativa electric type high.

 

[Sub24ox7]

Oh, busy making oil at same time. Almost forgot, I have had the fear too! Which is exactly like taking too much lsd/mushrooms. This hasn’t happened to me in a long time(high school and no tolerance with nld landrace). Basically PANIC!
With the post above I guess I’m saying deeply introspective weed can be trippy. But so can fear inducing weed.(again probably tolerance and type of weed)

 

[Hammerhead]

I never got paranoid feelings until much later in life from weed. I never had those feelings using shrooms/LSD. Being old I can't smoke like I did when I was young. As a kid all we did was smoke and we smoked a lot. Sometimes all that was available was seeded columbo even to growers. weed was still very illegal then. Shrooms or LSD had a massive effect on tolerances of other drugs. I never felt high from weed when on psychedelics. When drinking we could drink 2x more than if not on psychedelics. As a kid we took large doses of LSD.. We couldn't take the same with shrooms as it would make you sick eating that much at once.. Back in the '70s all of the LSD was potent. No clue what is like today. I don't really trust those making it now anyway. It's easy to adjust dosages with shrooms and I can grow my own. It doesn't take a lot to reset, it also helps with pain.

 

[LostTribe]

Got a few of the long blooming pretty psychedelic purple Todd OH x THH males unsorted (open pollination of THH) trying to strike. So far I feel the Todd's are more potent but I sort of have some reservations about it after running THH. I have more P1 packs and defiantly want to check more out it will have to wait for now. I need me some variety.

 

[CannaRed]

The LSD going around is SUPER strong now.
I'm sure it's me getting older also, but It hits fast, and HARD.
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[@hempy]

When you were on LSD you only smoked weed when the peeking settled to give it a boost like we drank to but by 24 hours you felt beat up by the next day all you wanted was to sleep but couldn't lol.

The last trip i took was i think 95 mate smuggled it back from Holland it was good but had a short life.

The Electric high that many dont seam to find in weed these days is what you want when were talking Haze or even a good Thai i keep hearing no come down by some well trust me a strong sativa electric high will rattle the best of us and if it dont then you have yet to find it.

 

[Sub24ox7]

I would smoke weed to make mdma kick in and it does! When tripping back in the day on lsd we would drink sometimes too but IMO it’s a bad combo it makes for a rough trip. You don’t get drunk really when drinking while tripping lsd but it gives it an edge I personally don’t care for and makes for a shitty next day!

 

[JohnnyChicago]

Oh, busy making oil at same time. Almost forgot, I have had the fear too! Which is exactly like taking too much lsd/mushrooms. This hasn’t happened to me in a long time(high school and no tolerance with nld landrace). Basically PANIC!
With the post above I guess I’m saying deeply introspective weed can be trippy. But so can fear inducing weed.(again probably tolerance and type of weed)

I never got paranoid feelings until much later in life from weed. I never had those feelings using shrooms/LSD. Being old I can't smoke like I did when I was young. ...

If you can have these kind of bad feelings from cannabis then you can have the good ones too. It's just a matter of allowing it. But also of setting. Just like the paranoia.
At least my opinion.
Having a higher number of activated receptors helps too. I am sure. But there are also tricks you can use. Like per exemple doing sports to raise your serotonine levels etc., before consuming psychedlic weed.

We are all different, but for me the effect can be comaprable to mushrooms (more than lsd). Or better a mix of psilocybin and cocain. With some kind of ego dissolution too, once you have found the right wagon to make your trip. But we are still speaking of weed. You need to do some efforts to reach the optimum.

 

[romanoweed]

I dont wanna claim anything about 70s, but i imagine that alot Weed was compromised by the Import. Was pressed, stored in heated Ships, Leaves , Stemms. Not benefitial, and ruined the perfection that Weed seemingly needs in order for a propper trip.

Weed is extreemly diverse in its Effects, and its extreemly Quality Dependent. If something in the whole Production Chain is off, well then...

Im just a googler, but, Tripweed points thowards Mexican and SE Asian Regions. I havent heard from Columbian as exactly that Level. BUT IM JUST A GOOGLER...So, tripweed is a very fragile Thing as it sounds. And it comes from almost mythcal sounding Places, Like Sumatran, from Jungles, or exotic Destinations. So much i found out i think. Its alot about Genetics, and Enviroment, Curing-Storage (mine was very fresh bud, but NOT sqashed)

So , there is / was never a Garanty. But if you would been in SE Asia long ago, from what i heard, in a Weed-cultural-Hotspot, i think Chances of tripping were the highest, but still no Garanty cause everyones Mind is different.

 

[romanoweed]

Look at this Post: https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/161Dalat3.jpg

Quote:
"Vietnamese Grass is the most powerfull transforming Herbs in the World. When i got high on that Stuff i began to understand that Life is sacred, that Life has a great vibracny"

It sounds like he had like a religious Experience. I think thats not interpreting, thats the meaning of "understanding Life is sacred".
And i can relate the idea of a religious Experience to my own Weed-Exp.
A religious Experience is probably do to the ultimative psychedelic Quality of the Herb.

I gathered quiet a few Reports from this Regions with atleast similar Features.
They said its a 8 hours Rollercoaster Ride, sweared they triped, they were so ultimatively "ON" on it, Or had 4 hours of Synethesy when listening to music and saw the Music. and such things.

I found that this stuff is really rare. It was also rare for me to get something if remotly related.

So, i really understand peoples Minds are different, but i guess very few of this Weed is around, and i guess was neither in the 70s in America. Much more likely than nowdays tho, but still rare. So, im thinking, probably thats the reason why.

 

[@hempy]

I dont wanna claim anything about 70s, but i imagine that alot Weed was compromised by the Import. Was pressed, stored in heated Ships, Leaves , Stemms. Not benefitial, and ruined the perfection that Weed seemingly needs in order for a propper trip.

Weed is extreemly diverse in its Effects, and its extreemly Quality Dependent. If something in the whole Production Chain is off, well then...

Im just a googler, but, Tripweed points thowards Mexican and SE Asian Regions. I havent heard from Columbian as exactly that Level. BUT IM JUST A GOOGLER...So, tripweed is a very fragile Thing as it sounds. And it comes from almost mythcal sounding Places, Like Sumatran, from Jungles, or exotic Destinations. So much i found out i think. Its alot about Genetics, and Enviroment, Curing-Storage (mine was very fresh bud, but NOT sqashed)

So , there is / was never a Garanty. But if you would been in SE Asia long ago, from what i heard, in a Weed-cultural-Hotspot, i think Chances of tripping were the highest, but still no Garanty cause everyones Mind is different.

Tripping weed was almost wet from the resin it looked like stringy leaf a small dime bag cost $30 and a oz bag of African Colombian Panama so on cost you $30 also in 79.

Not all weed was compressed i would say i saw very little compressed cannabis here.

 

[@hempy]

Look at this Post: https://www.icmag.com/gallery/data/500/161Dalat3.jpg

Quote:
"Vietnamese Grass is the most powerfull transforming Herbs in the World. When i got high on that Stuff i began to understand that Life is sacred, that Life has a great vibracny"

It sounds like he had like a religious Experience. I think thats not interpreting, thats the meaning of "understanding Life is sacred".
And i can relate the idea of a religious Experience to my own Weed-Exp.
A religious Experience is probably do to the ultimative psychedelic Quality of the Herb.

I gathered quiet a few Reports from this Regions with atleast similar Features.
They said its a 8 hours Rollercoaster Ride, sweared they triped, they were so ultimatively "ON" on it, Or had 4 hours of Synethesy when listening to music and saw the Music. and such things.

I found that this stuff is really rare. It was also rare for me to get something if remotly related.

So, i really understand peoples Minds are different, but i guess very few of this Weed is around, and i guess was neither in the 70s in America. Much more likely than nowadays tho, but still rare. So, im thinking, probably thats the reason why.

I remember the Delat line it had lots of hype about it and once people grew it reports of ok weed came along even hermies being found the Vietnamese line being sold by the land race team looks like something we got here if its the same its not a bad smoke but i wouldn't call it the worlds best.

 

[romanoweed]

DA WE DALATs Vietnamese is not the Original.

exactly hempy. But if you researched this Line alot , you would found out that DA WE Dalat went back to vientam in 2004. Thats what he brought back. Not the original. So, for me its no surprise. He also smokereported it and all he had to say is that the 2004 Dalat is "good for smoking at afternoon" . So, it was clearly not the same old Stuff wich he rated as "most transforming weed in the world". Also i heard that what he collected was then selected out quiet strongly for non-hermie. And that before that Selection it had stronger high...

So, it isnt the realdeal 70s Vietnamese. Its a 2004 strongly selected Vietnamese.

 

[@hempy]

Butcher Bob
Posted May 18, 2009

Ok....it's me. I wuz very lucky & wuz gifted some by Uncle Ben, originally from Di Wee, as they had been workin with them. I started 4 beans this season, two came up...one lady went hermi & wuz culled, the other lady is at week 17 in flower. I have a some more & will be startin a few each season until gone. I am currently just sorting thru them to find any pure females & males, culling all hermis. So far it looks like I got a strong female, she's been stressed hard and not hermi'd. If I am fortunate enough to find a pure male, I will be able to make more Dalat seed...if not, then just hybrids. While none of my work will ever be for sale, I do send out beans occasionally to well known growers...so they'll be in circulation, so to speak. But that's likely gonna be a ways down the road.

This all unfolded at CW.

I am only repeating what i read and was told in privet by people that grew the line but one thing needs to be stated here Di Wee who past them around for free was a nice guy i liked him.

 

[romanoweed]

its from 2004, so i dont think its a good Line to judge psychedelic potential really IMHO