the Hand Watering coco thread

[bonecarver_OG]

once the stretch is done the need of N goes down a lot.

id rather think of big plants as needing feedings more often, than feed it stronger. all to avoid giving too much nutes.

at the moment your plant is looking good just keep an eye open for when the stretch stops

i think it might be more beneficial to flush before giving PK, if you are going to flush. like this the ec will be lower in the coco and give more headroom for working for the plant.

peace

 

[akabud]

once the stretch is done the need of N goes down a lot.

id rather think of big plants as needing feedings more often, than feed it stronger. all to avoid giving too much nutes.

at the moment your plant is looking good just keep an eye open for when the stretch stops

i think it might be more beneficial to flush before giving PK, if you are going to flush. like this the ec will be lower in the coco and give more headroom for working for the plant.

peace

Thanks buddy, she did have a flush with oxygynated water prior to giving her pk,
In a earlier post you stated that when i stop giving pk to lower nutes... What would be the reason for this~?
thanks

Edit... she geting very little N if any, the stretch is just coming to a halt, from looking at her would you say approx 3.5 weeks in flower is about right?

thanks again

 

[akabud]

Just to add none of the pics show more than half of her, couldnt get her in full shot due to the location...

 

[bonecarver_OG]

the reason to cut nutes is to cut down on N

peae

 

[Spanishwilly]

Hi BoneCarver,
If I want to do a SOG with my plants finishing around 40 cm tall after 9 weeks flowering, what size pot should I be using for hand-watered coco?
Regards,
Spanishwilly

 

[bonecarver_OG]

depends a lot on the strains used. some strains handle flowering in far smaller pots than others.

also it depends on watering frequency, if you can water often you can use smaller pots.

my best bet is - you can use 5-7 liter pots. smaller pots means more frequent watering, and too big pots would alove for a lot of stretch.

remember in coco the plants tend to grow bigger in smaller containers.

peace

 

[akabud]

the reason to cut nutes is to cut down on N

peae

Thanks buddy,
I went out today and purchased canna a+b for my next project to be grown in canna coco, i noticed that canna a+b have n=5, is this not a bit too much in flower?
I have read that some prefer to mix coco with perlite... what are your thoughts on this bonecarver ?

Here are a few pics of my lady grown in coco in a green house, we had ground frost a few nights ago, so decided to give her some extra heat(electrical greenhouse heater, 2 x 6" fans ) only showing one of many colas as i lstd her, (easier to concentrate on one part of her)
1st pic 2 weeks ago, 2nd pic 1 week ago and last pic today, all commecnts + or - appreciated and taken on board..

 

[Spanishwilly]

more questions

more questions

Way back on page 4 of this thread, "The Cult" is answering a query about his pot sizes and he says..

"What is ALWAYS most important is that you have maximum space for the roots to expand in during first weeks of flowering, if you aint got space then you aint getting much buds. I veg in 1L buckets and transplant in 6.5, and the results are just tremendous, especially in coco where the roots grow at an unearthly (lol) speed."

Does this mean I can veg in smaller pots then transplant into my flowering pots and go straight into 12/12? Don't they need some time under a veg regime to root into the bigger pot?

Second question. - I know this has been generally covered in the thread already, but it's crucial and I want some community input please. If I have a plant under intense light in a 6 litre pot, can I just water it once a day, or is that not going to work?

 

[chemsteady]

well...

well...

you can transplant right before they go into flower, dont need to wait. just make sure that the pot theyre currently in has (and by that point the roots should have) become close to pot bound. the plants will have plenty of time to develop their root system in the new pots. i for example go from 1-1 1/2 gal pots to 2 gal pots. by harvest time, the 2 gal pot is pretty much filled with roots.

as for watering, the size of the pot is basically going to dictate how often you water. bone has a really good post in this thread about pot size to plant size ratio, but i cant recall where. the jist of it is that the closer you are to having the appropriate size plant in the appropriate size pot the easier it will be to water. a tiny plant in a big pot is gonna be tricky (but it can be done) to find a good watering scheme. same thing for a big plant in a tiny pot. youre gonna have to water that girl all the time, because the plants roots will suck up all the moisture and the coco will get dry >ph issues>plants with deficiencies.

that said, you should water coco as often as is convenient for you. constant air exchange will most certainly help to spur growth, while a steady supply of properly ph'd nute solution or even ph'd water will ensure the ph of the coco doesnt go out of wack. (make sure you get a little run-off, btw, otherwise salts can accumulate which it turn will effect the ph of the coco)

for some reason i lost sight of this during my outdoor grow, and although im happy with my finished product, i cant help but think i could have had slightly better yields if i had watered more. thanks to bone for teaching me this, and thanks to h3ad for helping me to remember.
~c

 

[bonecarver_OG]

1 - yes - but vegging even for a week or so will give more yield.

2 - it might work - it depends a lot on environmental issues. during summer you might prefeer bigger pots... they keep water longer time!

 

[metal_god69]

May I join the party

May I join the party

howdy all
been reading this post for a while now and it has convinced me to try out my hand at coco. I have 1 Flying Dutchmen G-Force fem seedling going under 1x90w tri-band ufo(460nm/612nm/660nm) and things are going great. I am watering the young one every 2-2.5 days untill she starts to develop more.

For Flowering I will be moving her under 4x90wUFOs that cover 460nm/612nm/630nm/660nm/730nm spectrums as well as adding 6x42w 2700k CFL's.

My complete lineup of nutrients/supplements consists of
- Botanicare CoCoGro
- Botanicare Cal-Mag Plus
- Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Grow + Bloom
- Botanicare Liquid Karma
- Advanced Nutrients Voodoo Juice
- Advanced nutrients Piranha
- Advanced Nutrients Tarantula
- Grozyme

As of today the youngster is being fed a 310ppm regiment. I will only be using the 3 bacteria/fungi supplements for early seedling/veg stage, then once more in mid veg, and once again in mid flower. Everything else will be used every feeding.

Cheers all

 

[Spanishwilly]

My complete lineup of nutrients/supplements consists of
- Botanicare CoCoGro
- Botanicare Cal-Mag Plus
- Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Grow + Bloom
- Botanicare Liquid Karma
- Advanced Nutrients Voodoo Juice
- Advanced nutrients Piranha
- Advanced Nutrients Tarantula
- Grozyme

As of today the youngster is being fed a 310ppm regiment. I will only be using the 3 bacteria/fungi supplements for early seedling/veg stage, then once more in mid veg, and once again in mid flower. Everything else will be used every feeding.

Cheers all

Hi and Welcome,
Wow! how do you guys keep on top of all those freakin' ingredients?
Keep me posted, I'll watch your grow.
spanishwilly

 

[metal_god69]

Leaf problems already

Leaf problems already

My little seedling is showing something on the 2 oldest fan leaves. Yellow spots and not so hot looking tips. Any idea's?

 

[FatBlunt420]

i had a quick question. i was reading other threads and just want to double check this... can you water your plants with dehumidifier water?? i have two dehumidifiers in the basement, a 32 gal resivior. and reverse ossmosis system. ive been drumping my dehumidifier water in the sink up stairs... if you can water the plants, im going to save alot on water, and stair walking.

metal god. i cant really help u, but i got some flying dutchmen, mixed fem, im a huge metal fan too, good luck.

 

[metal_god69]

FatBlunt, it all depends on what PPM/EC your water is coming out of your dehumidifier. I was going to start using mine to try and save costs, but the ppm was 130, and that is a little high for me, i prefer RO water with 0ppm and add 80-100ppm of Cal-Mag plus. Check your ppm/ec and go from there.

Cheers!!!

 

[bonecarver_OG]

metal god - how are you treating them? tell us more info


fat blunt - yeah its good - you can use that no problem.

metal god - if you would use the dehumidifer water with a little bit of RO water you would save a lot of money... no need to use 0ppm water at all. its too low in minerals imho.

peace

 

[Zoolander]

Hey BC how's it going ? I'm back up and going coco crazy so I thought I'd stop in to say high .

 

[FatBlunt420]

thanks for the advice.
ill be running my reverse ossmossis system as well. im pretty sure these dehumidifiers hold 2 gallons, times the 2 i have. i empty once a day(4gals) and i water about 8 gallons a day, so its half and half when i start tomorrow. thanks again. saving money is always good.

 

[bonecarver_OG]

yo zoolander hope your grow room is as lush as allways

fatblunt - i got my dehumidifiers in my grow area also.... works fine i even mix it with a little bit of tap water and i never use cal mag but all tap water is not alike...

peace!

 

[metal_god69]

Hey bonecarver_OG
I am using GroTek CocoEarth, and when I transplant shortly I will be using Botanicare CocoGro. I am feeding them with a mix of Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Grow (Soil & Coco), Liquid Karma, and Cal-Mag Plus with a 350ppm reading. I feeding by hand every 2 days. Do you think the young one is showing signs that she needs more nutes? Maybe bump up to 450-500ppm? I am hand watering with plenty of run-off, probably 40%.

My temps have been a perfect 26-27C and humidity is always 60-70%. I have a small 120mm fan blowing across the top of the plant creating a gentle breeze. I am using 1x90w UFO LED (440nm/460nm/660nm) light that is 6" away from the top of the lady.

Anything else that I mised let me know and i will answer.

Thanks Bone