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The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

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BAKED_BEANZ

Why are toms posts gone

Lots of valuable info in here,seems worthwhile to preserve it in its entirety
........i guess this question is going to be asked a lot . but its not up to me how it will be answered . all i will say its in some peoples best interests
 
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jd123

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I dunno bruh...I tried to figure out the same thing. I didn't even know you could be perma deleted from here. I had a bunch of his material saved that I hadn't got to reading yet..when I came back to the pages they were on, I was like wtf??

TBH though, Tom was trolling people pretty hard as of recent..seemed like he was usually not in too happy of a mood. I know that his big garden got raided and he can no longer grow like he used to. He said he hasn't done anything major since I think 2012 or something like that...I suppose when you dedicate your life to something and then the craft you've spent decades perfecting is abruptly ripped away from you..your gonna be a little sour.
 

milkyjoe

Senior Member
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I don't think many people paid attention but when Tom shared his theory on EC and feeding and how to work around weather changes using the theory...genius. But how else did he get 10+ in 300 gallons.

800 gallons makes it way easier...but 800 plus Toms theory...or 800 plus maximizing photosynthesis

Anyways...miss you Tom
 

odogyouknow

Member
Shiiiiit...

Looking through the first couple hundred pages and just straight GUTTED.

More views than the entire first page of threads including stickys combined. Such a valuable wealth of information available for people to grow monsters for FREE.

What a total abomination to erase the INFO and CONTRIBUTIONS from MASTERS from the WORLD RECORD.
 

Chimera

Genetic Resource Management
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Y'all don't know shit about shit.

Tom asked for his posts and account to to be removed; quit blaming IC admin for Tom's choice. He obviously had his reasons.

Let the man get his shit together and come back when, how and if he wants. You're not helping anyone complaining, even if it feels good to blame someone for his absence.
 

odogyouknow

Member
Hey, We're just people going to the public library only to find the most important lines from our favorite book gone....

If it was done at the behest of the author, well that changes things quite a bit... I dunno what to say...

Looks like 18 pages of comment popped up in the last hour..

Unfortunate all around, the deleted comments only helped folks to grow more bud!

I suppose it's Mr Hill's prerogative.
 

OvergrowDaWorld

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Really ,
Don't even think about stealing shit. It doesn't matter if people share or don't. If your doing this as a business what you have is what keeps people coming back. As soon as you let it out those customers will get from another. If you are just another grower with the same shit others have your gonna have a hard time getting your crop sold at a decent price.. I would be shocked if this guy doesn't have it backed up somewhere. When we find good stuff we have to back it up off site. The reason why this is important are obvious. In today's market you have to choose wisely who you share with typically it's with close friends. If your growing as a consumer sharing is easier still some don't want there praised plants in others hands that's OK.

Oh believe me. I wouldnt. I was actually thinking of buying some and sending it to someone who could do the tissue culture regeneration thing, if possible. Thats what I meant by "devious means".
I shouldnt have said that he deserves to get ripped off in the next sentence. That was a completely different thought, but it did come out wrong, at the wrong time.
Thats why I said "THOUGHT", and "I would never".
Im just typing thoughts down. Nothing serious.
He does deserve the bad Karma. I will say that. Hes that kinda guy who takes advantage of peoples need for weed. Hes greedy. Mean.Pridefull. Arrogant. A Hoarder.


He only grows for himself and doesnt sell alot of it. 1x - 1000w lamp. Its mostly for himself.
So the customer thing is a non issue cuz he doesnt sell it to make a living. He just gets his $ back for the investment and electric and materials, plus abit of spendin $.

Sorry I said these things "out loud". Dont want anybody getting the wrong idea about me.
Leason learned. Dont write down that anyone deserves to get ripped off for haording a strain. Its just my jealousy talking.
Im butt-hurt! :laughing:
 

EastCoast710

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Oh believe me. I wouldnt. I was actually thinking of buying some and sending it to someone who could do the tissue culture regeneration thing, if possible. Thats what I meant by "devious means".
I shouldnt have said that he deserves to get ripped off in the next sentence. That was a completely different thought, but it did come out wrong, at the wrong time.
Thats why I said "THOUGHT", and "I would never".
Im just typing thoughts down. Nothing serious.
He does deserve the bad Karma. I will say that. Hes that kinda guy who takes advantage of peoples need for weed. Hes greedy. Mean.Pridefull. Arrogant. A Hoarder.


He only grows for himself and doesnt sell alot of it. 1x - 1000w lamp. Its mostly for himself.
So the customer thing is a non issue cuz he doesnt sell it to make a living. He just gets his $ back for the investment and electric and materials, plus abit of spendin $.

Sorry I said these things "out loud". Dont want anybody getting the wrong idea about me.
Leason learned. Dont write down that anyone deserves to get ripped off for haording a strain. Its just my jealousy talking.
Im butt-hurt! :laughing:



tissue culture .. if I'm correct can only be done on live plants.. like u would have to have him literally sell you nugs pulled off the plant.. in order to achieve the results u are looking for..
 

mapinguari

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This is the Internet. Nothing goes away for good. There are archives going wayback, if you know where to look...

"Hi Jenn,

I've played with a lot of different soil recipes over the years, 1rst year new soil mixes, as well as yearly additives. Here's a very simple mix that is well proven and I am comfortable recommending for those large outdoor containers. It gives about 50 cubic feet or just over 300 gallons (dry U.S), and fills a 6ft diameter container to a depth of about 18inches - perfectly.

25 bags black gold potting soil (1.5cf ea)

4 bags stutzman farms chicken manure (1 cf ea)

1 bag perlite (4 cf ea)

1 bag (50 lbs) bonemeal (steamed, not precipitated)

1/2 bag gypsum (aprox 1/2 cf) - Edit -> 1/2 of a 40 lb bag (20lbs).

Mix well, water thoroughly, let rest for 2-3 weeks minimum, transplant, and stand back

Best Regards,

Tom"
 
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BAKED_BEANZ

Y'all don't know shit about shit.

Tom asked for his posts and account to to be removed; quit blaming IC admin for Tom's choice. He obviously had his reasons.

Let the man get his shit together and come back when, how and if he wants. You're not helping anyone complaining, even if it feels good to blame someone for his absence.
and as i said , it wasn't up to me to say but think chimera summed it up well , this thread won't only be edited again but closed for good if some of you guys keep going .
i for one still enjoy coming to it and checking out whats here . guys still have plenty to offer and nice pic,s one persons absence shouldn't change that :)

yeah it sux lets move on .
 

HorseMouth

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We are so close to actually Growing Large OD plants. I'm sure the Early Light Depper's have already started cloning, so can we please put a hold on all the Tangent Non-Growing posts.

I love this thread, I was introduced to many amazing OD growers here over the years. The ebb and flow of the traffic here is tidal, but we will get shutdown again if it turns into another Monkey on a Cupcake feeding frenzy.

If you don't have pics/tips/growing questions then please refrain from posting. Their are other threads for opinions, use them.

Whatever it takes to not get shutdown before we actually start growing OD's should be the main objective here.

Peace

Yes, I've already started cloning.
 

OvergrowDaWorld

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Picked up some stuff for deps today I'm stoked

YOU DID?
picture.php

LOL!
 

OvergrowDaWorld

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We are so close to actually Growing Large OD plants. I'm sure the Early Light Depper's have already started cloning, so can we please put a hold on all the Tangent Non-Growing posts.

I love this thread, I was introduced to many amazing OD growers here over the years. The ebb and flow of the traffic here is tidal, but we will get shutdown again if it turns into another Monkey on a Cupcake feeding frenzy.

If you don't have pics/tips/growing questions then please refrain from posting. Their are other threads for opinions, use them.

Whatever it takes to not get shutdown before we actually start growing OD's should be the main objective here.


Peace

Yes, I've already started cloning.

You heard it here first. Right from the horses mouth! :biggrin:
J/K.
I love this thread! Ive learned ALOT!
I would hate to see it dropped for nonsense.
If it wasnt for this here thread, I wouldnt of had that awesome guerilla grow 2 summers ago.
Very inspiring and full of great information.
Especially when it comes to pests and cannapillars.
 

trippn

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read a good many pages of this and have retrieved much knowledge. i sincerely hope whatever trouble Tom is in gets resolved. i also sincerely hope those posts do go back up again ;p. priceless info contained within. on that note i have some questions;

when using Gypsum as a soil conditioner will i be using granulated? i read of powdered Gypsum as well; but it seems too soluble? first time using toms recipe; last year used subs soil recipe. appreciate any help :)
 
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