The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[Sluicebox]

Seems like the State knows it will be legal soon and wants their cut, just like Oregon did. Outdoor growers threaten their business model. Someone's got to pay for all the Social Programs. Fines, Fees and Taxes make their world go 'round. That State of Jefferson Idea sounds better everyday.

 

[jd123]

I just dont understand how were all supposed to prosper with CA banning even more counties. That means ANOTHER massive flood to Oregon. The largest registered garden in OR last year had 104 patients. NOT A SINGLE PATIENT REGISTERED THERE WAS FROM OREGON. My county (who's left me alone since the beginning) is going fuckin nuts now on rules and regulations because gardens are being crammed into every single little nook and cranny possible. Most with shitty 12 foot black tarp fences and a mass of cars going in and out.

For the first time in my farming career, I feel like I probably shouldn't refer to it as a career any longer.

 

[Babbabud]

Ok so i tried to clean up some of the crap and keep this on topic. We can stay on topic or we can close it .
Posting pics of stacks is pretty juvenile ... so take that kind of post to a totally diff site and not icmag .. thanks

 

[milkyjoe]

This should be a seasonal thread
Too much time on our hands apparently leads to some less than helpful posts...me included

 

[Sluicebox]

Yep sorry I got off track, your right easy to do.

Hey here you go. I've been trying to source local compost. There is a recycling center in my area that takes in yard debris and all kinds of other stuff. They say their Certified Organic. However I have heard from more than One person that their product ruined their crop. Chemicals or Herbicides in the compost, who knows. That said they are the biggest op in my area and most suppliers take in compost from them to make their own products to sell to gardeners. I heard it's loaded with plastics, doll heads etc.

Would I be better off to get a load of cow manure and cook my own early Spring? Winter here is usually fairly mild. Only about 2-3 weeks per year below freezing. Just hate to inadvertently buy some bad compost somewhere for my soil mix, do all that work and have it wasted. No way I can afford to buy my soil build twice.

I even checked with some well known local nurseries and they too source their compost from the same supplier. Makes me wonder if the gardeners I talked to had messed things up on their own. Would be real easy to do something wrong, or hurry a batch of soil. Untold number of variables, and real easy to blame someone else.

Would be real nice if they were wrong because this place will actually mix for you for $3 per yard, bring your own amendments. They will add river loam/sand for another $30 per yard. I think their compost is right in there at $35 per yard as well. Not sure but I think if you buy their blend, it's even cheaper. Plus only $15 delivered to my garden. Would love to have that mixed and cooking by the end of March. I was thinking that was probably a big part of what went wrong with the others, not cooking or over fert.. Who knows. You'd sure think that if they indeed had bad product, no one would be buying it. Especially those nurseries who depend on quality product for their own plants. State Funded recycle program though... Thoughts?

Just curious if others have had similar experiences with State Run Recycled Compost.

I know there are threads on soil building, been there. Most folks in those threads are buying bagged compost in small quantities.

 

[Robrites]

Yep sorry I got off track, your right easy to do.

Hey here you go. I've been trying to source local compost. There is a recycling center in my area that takes in yard debris and all kinds of other stuff. They say their Certified Organic. However I have heard from more than One person that their product ruined their crop. Chemicals or Herbicides in the compost, who knows. That said they are the biggest op in my area and most suppliers take in compost from them to make their own products to sell to gardeners. I heard it's loaded with plastics, doll heads etc.

Would I be better off to get a load of cow manure and cook my own early Spring? Winter here is usually fairly mild. Only about 2-3 weeks per year below freezing. Just hate to inadvertently buy some bad compost somewhere for my soil mix, do all that work and have it wasted. No way I can afford to buy my soil build twice.

I even checked with some well known local nurseries and they too source their compost from the same supplier. Makes me wonder if the gardeners I talked to had messed things up on their own. Would be real easy to do something wrong, or hurry a batch of soil. Untold number of variables, and real easy to blame someone else.

Would be real nice if they were wrong because this place will actually mix for you for $3 per yard, bring your own amendments. They will add river loam/sand for another $30 per yard. I think their compost is right in there at $35 per yard as well. Not sure but I think if you buy their blend, it's even cheaper. Plus only $15 delivered to my garden. Would love to have that mixed and cooking by the end of March. I was thinking that was probably a big part of what went wrong with the others, not cooking or over fert.. Who knows. You'd sure think that if they indeed had bad product, no one would be buying it. Especially those nurseries who depend on quality product for their own plants. State Funded recycle program though... Thoughts?

Just curious if others have had similar experiences with State Run Recycled Compost.

I know there are threads on soil building, been there. Most folks in those threads are buying bagged compost in small quantities.

We used to go to dairy farms on the Oregon coast and get pick-up loads of manure and straw for 10 bucks. We would add fish carcasses from the docks and cook it down...worked pretty good.

 

[Sluicebox]

That's shroom country over there. Good times. I have a nearby feed lot I will check out then. Also sourced another vendor that does not use that recycling center's product. They have a 3 part blend of comp dairy manure, organic compost and sand/loam for $34 per yard + $3 per yard to mix in my amendments. $40 delivery per load. Going to go check them out to make sure on their product. Get some samples for lab, $10 each local. As well as look at their mixer. I don't want my amendments to leak out while mixing. Huge no brainer though to have them do the mixing vs me in the garden. Test it again after it cooks for a month or two. Also found perlite by the load out of Portland. Not sure how to haul that yet. Could you imagine, open trailer of perlite down the freeway? lol.

 

[hobbyhorse]

It's still summer down under milkyjoe

 

[hobbyhorse]

Pieface

 

[xmobotx]

Would I be better off to get a load of cow manure and cook my own early Spring?

yes

sometimes when i say "municipal compost" people assume I'm talking about sewage compost {under it's many names} avoid that stuff as well. but I'm talking about this product you just described when i say to avoid municipal compost

 

[50YardLine]

Even better, get that cow manure, mix it with straw, let it compost, then buy a 1000 red wigglers and let them go to town. Do this today, and use it in 2017. If you have an extra smart pot, you can put the compost for the worms to feed on in it. That way no worms escape. I use 400 gal pots for my castings ATM. Works great. I buy top quality compost to put in, but manure and straw would work great.

 

[Sluicebox]

That's a good idea getting 2017's compost started now. Funny now I'm jonesing to go clean the barn and neighbors barn lol. Might even get raking a bunch of Oak Leaves asap. Never liked the bag on the lawn mower but that has since changed.

Any one ever tried Viney Maple Moss instead of Peat Moss in their mix? That is free here, tons of it. Thinking of red cinder rock instead of perlite too, $38 per yard.

Wait till my neighbors see me out in the pasture scooping up horse shit. lol. Waste not want not.

 

[nomaad]

I am fond of duck shit compost. Mallard Mix from Sonoma Compost was a key component to my early soil mixes.

 

[WoodFired Pizza]

whats the best way to move 12 pallets down a residential street ?

 

[_tessarecting]

3:30AM

 

[WoodFired Pizza]

3:30am is unconventional to me.

big u haul is like 4 max at a time. i can do 6 if i get the penske lol. idk if i can unload 12 in a day solo. 3 trips of 4 pallets on different days cost 2/3 more. usually just unload the 2nd truck in the morning but then i end up being wreaked at the end of that day or wake up wreaked from trying to unload too much in one day.

 

[Mountain Sprout]

Back on track

Back on track

I know they are not huge but these are a row of Green Crack. You can see the big ones in the back with bamboo extensions coming off T-posts.

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[Top_Shelf_Farm]

Nice buds mountain sprout!!

 

[furrywall11]

Way to go, Mountain Sprout!

I long for the day when the county wises up and I can go back to growing big plants outside....

Here's a BD from early July last year



And some fireside volunteers

 

[Sluicebox]

Nice plant! Looks happy too. I really like the fireside volunteers, lol. Great post.