The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[50YardLine]

Kick Ass Green Houses! Farmtek has it going on. I've been eyeballing that s500 basic in a 30'x48' for 12 trees, as you can build on it later with light dep kit. I'd just be dreaming considering that s1000 light dep, can't even find a price on it. Imagine it's custom quote only. I would like to know though if you set those up yourself or hired them to do it? I'd hate to f'k that kit up, and your's look pro done. Would also like your opinion on the double layer film, as it looks like your using it, (worth it?) Roll up or drop down sides?

Lastly 10'x10'x12'H spacing per plant ok in a greenhouse? Even then I imagine they would fill in pretty tight. Organics, raised beds is my plan.

Impossible to grow large outdoors Pac NW 45 lat consistently year after year. Lucky at best. Have to have a greenhouse to pull it off. Hat's f'n off to ya, those are nice. Particularly that Gothic with the roof vent pack and hard end walls! Seriously I've been looking at them, have a pic of one next to my mirror in bathroom and above my res'. So I can see when I wake up as well as when I water.Keeps me motivated to do my best now. Your the first I've seen in these Forums running one. Plants look happy by the way, speaks volumes, very little of that has to do with the house. I'm jealous.

I built my small greenhouse myself in about 5 days. The large greenhouse I used Envirotech and their install team. Horrible idea, they didn't even finish half of it, so I did. Could have done it with a buddy or two in a week also. The S1000 I would hire a crew, for sure.

The quote I have going with Zach at Farmtek is 75g, with lights, auto dep, and black out walls and fans. That doesn't include the power pole I plan to drop for my next greenhouse, and the heated concrete floors. 6g for the pole, another 2-3 for the electrical and hook up to the greenhouse. Another 15 for the concrete and bulldozing work I have to do. So should be in the ballpark of 100k, for a full automated, heated, lighted 36x98' greenhouse. Just waiting for my county to decide what the laws are for this year. If I am not feeling it, I will sell this house and move next year after the water settles.

The needed things in a greenhouse are roll up sides, and for larger greenhouses, ridge vents. That's it. All the other stuff is for light dep, and trying to control your environment. The small greenhouse pictured, only has roll up sides yet it stays nice and cool with only circulating fans. By cool, I mean only a few degrees hotter than outside. A simple automated fine mist system also does wonders in small greenhouses during veg to up the humidity and keep things cool. THe double layer film is kind of a let down for me, with my current set up. THe UV rating really isn't high enough in the winter for two layers of plastic, so you must light them up to get good/great results. Once you start lighting things up, then you need to control other things, then a simple small green house gets complicated and hard to control. That is where the S1000 comes in.

10x10x12h should be great for a greenhouse with trees. I would have to double check mine, but I feel that is about what I did. Outdoors where room isn't an issue, I space my plants out much more than that. However that spacing in a greenhouse with large plants has been ideal for me. As you can tell, I can fill that space with 12 plants. My head height is a little higher, and I averaged 12'+ tall plants in the greenhouse. With my 17 foot ridge height, I had plenty of air flow above the plants. So with a 10x10x12 your plants shouldn't get much taller than 8'-10', cause if the buds hit the plastic they burn for sure.

Thanks for the kind words man, can't tell you how good it feels to have some positive feed back. Hope you get your greenhouse, so you can take that picture off your wall. Most people in this game are in it for the money, but you have the right mindset. Hard work with a goal in mind.

 

[jd123]

I like your larger GH man..sweet set-up..I'd need one that size for each of my blue dream though..

 

[BAKED_BEANZ]

i,m doing a big plant grow next year in mine , its auto temperature roof and sides , rain sensor , wind sensor . i,ve planted larger trees round it since this pic to give it bit more privacy .

i just play around in it atm , growing /testing new strains and pollen chucking having fun . time to run some numbers through it hopefully either running 300/400 gallon smart pots .

looking at growing some mendo420 beans , ace , bodhi f2 , aficionado f2 . nothing locked in place just yet . there,s only so much room and so many strains. i have had the benefit of a test run on a few and seeing who,s got the mega vigour just need a smoke test to go along with that yet.

 

[ponolove]

Nice greenhouses yall! Anyone here run the water walls? Pros and cons? I've been watching forever flowering set up a couple of auto dep 98 footers across the street from me..since October lol

 

[hobbyhorse]

Sourdubb leaning bluepower f2. Like eucalyptus and pine petrol

 

[WoodFired Pizza]

Nice greenhouses yall! Anyone here run the water walls? Pros and cons? I've been watching forever flowering set up a couple of auto dep 98 footers across the street from me..since October lol

gotta be crazy to put that kind of money in a bank account

 

[50YardLine]

I plan on getting Clean Green Certified this year. Anybody else?

 

[WoodFired Pizza]

i want to make a certification program to sell people.

 

[TheOutlawTree]

I plan on getting Clean Green Certified this year. Anybody else?

I was hoping to do that but wont be able to this year. I dont have a dedicated building to dry / harvest, and thats required for the certification. I dry in my greenhouses for now. Hopefully next year I'll have a metal building up specific for drying and harvesting and get certified from them. Supposed to be a good way to find outlets for dispensary's since some are only accepting clean green certified flowers.

Does anyone know whats up with the water board stuff? I thought we all had to register with them to be compliant from now on?

 

[bamboogardner]

Nevada County Bans All Outdoor Grows

Nevada County Bans All Outdoor Grows

The Board of Supervisors in Nevada County just adopted an emergency ordinance banning all outdoor cannabis grows and has included language in the ordinance defining hoopies and other detached outdoor grow structures as outdoor grows. What a bunch of donkeys.

 

[50YardLine]

The Board of Supervisors in Nevada County just adopted an emergency ordinance banning all outdoor cannabis grows and has included language in the ordinance defining hoopies and other detached outdoor grow structures as outdoor grows. What a bunch of donkeys.

I would argue this, if it is the same situation in my county.

When I put up my greenhouses, they threw extra code at me and called it a live in structure. That caused me to speck out every bar in the greenhouse, showing snow load calculations and engineered concrete.

If it were me, I would argue that the county has already deemed my structure a live in unit.

It's all bullshit anyway.

i want to make a certification program to sell people.

Ok. This program isn't just thrown out there for fun. At Harborside for instance, you get an extra 100$ a unit for being clean green certified. You can't become organic certified, because that is run by the FDA, which doesn't recognize cannabis. So this is as good as it gets. I would love to show credit of my organic gardening, and get higher prices because of it.

This is the wave of the future, conform or bust.

 

[50YardLine]

I was hoping to do that but wont be able to this year. I dont have a dedicated building to dry / harvest, and thats required for the certification. I dry in my greenhouses for now. Hopefully next year I'll have a metal building up specific for drying and harvesting and get certified from them. Supposed to be a good way to find outlets for dispensary's since some are only accepting clean green certified flowers.

Does anyone know whats up with the water board stuff? I thought we all had to register with them to be compliant from now on?

The only thing I might be in trouble with is I have minors on my main property. I have everything locked up, and behind two locking gates, so I think I am ok. I will find out soon, working on setting up a date for somebody to come out and inspect my property.

I see no reason to get more than one property clean green, cause I can just use my farm as the main account?

 

[Sluicebox]

Do you know the cut off on size of greenhouse where the County won't hassle you? I'm zoned ag exempt. They were going to allow me to put up a 36'x72' building as ag exempt no engineering. As long as it was ag only. How can they say a greenhouse is livable? Told you you had a nice greenhouse, lol.

 

[50YardLine]

Blue Dream is the first thing off the shelf in the clubs, I would know as I'm a partner in several. I don't buy club-buyer hype, and I don't buy Harbourside hype.

So last go around you took what I said in the wrong way. Let me start this post by saying I come in peace.

If you are partners in a club, do you guys contract out blue dream grows? In my original post, I claimed that most clubs don't want blue dream, because they contract out those strains. IS that the case with your clubs? Or do you buy blue dream from individual venders that just show up to vend?

If you don't mind me asking, what clubs are you talking about? They must be of high caliber, if you dismiss Harborside and club-buyer hype. I have found that Harborside has set the standard for every medical cannabis business in the world right now. I give Steven huge props.

Also, does your clubs pay extra for clean green certified? Or does it influence you purchasing meds at all?

Thanks for your time.

 

[50YardLine]

Do you know the cut off on size of greenhouse where the County won't hassle you? I'm zoned ag exempt. They were going to allow me to put up a 36'x72' building as ag exempt no engineering. As long as it was ag only. How can they say a greenhouse is livable? Told you you had a nice greenhouse, lol.

The only reason the greenhouse was permitted as a live in space, is because they knew what I was building and why. They tried to derail the process through bureaucratic non-sense. Most people in this game have no idea about permitting process, and standard codes. I have 15+ years in the trades, so I know how to deal with those guys.

So I hope they screwed themselves by trying to screw me. I now have a fully permitted live in greenhouse, no matter what they say.

 

[xmobotx]

It's all bullshit anyway.

right? you have to have an engineer calculate your soil bearing, snow load, wind shear & then get the same plan he draws for every other soil bearing, snow load, wind shear

 

[50YardLine]

right? you have to have an engineer calculate your soil bearing, snow load, wind shear & then get the same plan he draws for every other soil bearing, snow load, wind shear

It was worse than that for me. I had a fully engineered plan from the greenhouse company, with a current stamp. This has been passed in many counties in Cali. They first mandated that I had the snow loads re-calculated because the new code had passed since the plans were originally drawn. So after a new engineer calculated the same exact numbers, 400$ later, they then told me I had to change the concrete footings. Another 400$ to the engineer, then one more change. So 1200 dollars in new engineer calcs.

I ended up having to get a little pissed, and remind them that I live in a right to farm county. I read the ordnance out loud in the office, and showed how they clearly are infringing on those rights. They stamped the plans on the spot. They just wanted to see how far they could push it.

This was over a period of 8 weeks also.....Something that should have been over the counter.

 

[EssentialGround]

where is the Love?

where is the Love?

Blue dream is what it is. Everyone has grown it, dont knock it just cause you cant sell it.
Instead being negative about someones cash crop.. How about a round of applause for the guys still able to move one of the more passed around commercial cuts in the industry. :yay:


I ran it years ago when it was first making its rounds... Cashed in until I got sick of growing it. Nevertheless She's still a staple in the market for your average consumer...

 

[50YardLine]

Blue dream is what it is. Everyone has grown it, dont knock it just cause you cant sell it.
Instead being negative about someones cash crop.. How about a round of applause for the guys still able to move one of the more passed around commercial cuts in the industry. :yay:


I ran it years ago when it was first making its rounds... Cashed in until I got sick of growing it. Nevertheless She's still a staple in the market for your average consumer...

I have no problem selling my flowers, however, for me personally I am trying to move 100% of my product in state, to dispensaries. When doing this, I find Blue Dream is hard for me personally to sell. Part of this is because the clubs I deal with contract out name brand flowers such as blue dream. So, out east it goes, I assume.

You know something, you're right. Props to those guys that grow the dream and profit from it. If I could, I would take back what I said. You guys are obviously right, and I was wrong. I Didn't mean to be negative, but it must have came out that way.

 

[theJointedOne]

Couple other counties in norcal are mulling over banning medical growing.

That's crazy about Nevada county... Can't imagine how all those guys and girls out in gv are feeling.

Fuck these county board of supes bullshit...they got nothing better to do??