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looking great
Hi,
Nothing special... Around 20 big moms, 80-100 clones from each one.
Now the moms are a bit tightened... I´m using half of the place for a selection...
Then,
And finaly (before the big greenhouse)
Peace
plastochron
Member
emerald cup questions:
does anyone know the lineage of 'sweet serenade'? how about which mean gene strain placed 2nd?
does anyone know the lineage of 'sweet serenade'? how about which mean gene strain placed 2nd?
epicorchard
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Are you vegging under cfl's? What's your watt/ft2? They look really happy.
VERT CFL
VERT CFL
Wow this is awesome, Ive never seen a large scale room like that lit with vert CFLS. Were these vegged their entire life under these bulbs? I used to run a little cabinet with a cpl of those bulbs, they did really well. I got mine from 1000bulbs, I believe they were 200w cfls.. maybe they were 3s?? Either way that is impressive, thanks for sharing that. Im going to be trying some diff flouros for veg rooms this year. Wanna check out the t5s, so Im eyeing and comparing a cpl diff units from diff retailers. Have u used t5 in the past to veg and what units would u recommend when it comes to output, & cost effectiveness?
VERT CFL
Wow this is awesome, Ive never seen a large scale room like that lit with vert CFLS. Were these vegged their entire life under these bulbs? I used to run a little cabinet with a cpl of those bulbs, they did really well. I got mine from 1000bulbs, I believe they were 200w cfls.. maybe they were 3s?? Either way that is impressive, thanks for sharing that. Im going to be trying some diff flouros for veg rooms this year. Wanna check out the t5s, so Im eyeing and comparing a cpl diff units from diff retailers. Have u used t5 in the past to veg and what units would u recommend when it comes to output, & cost effectiveness?
I've used the HydroFarms 4' 8 tube units for a couple years now. Like them a lot. Prefer the more industrial look/better cooling?, one that I got off Amazon.
The other one is a more finished case (read nicer looking), I don't think it can cool as well with the extra case material.... plus the industrial one has more options for hanging it.
1000bulbs.com for replacement tubes, best I've found.
I'm a small Rec. grower so It's not so prohibitive on the capital side. I've heard that the HydroFarms ballasts are of a better quality than most. Mine get lots of hours on them as they are used 'full run', unless plants go outside/GH.
TheOutlawTree
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Whats everyone going to use for next years outdoor soil mix?
Im new to the California climate and can finally understand why this place is truly meant to grow the herb.... sooo much sun.
Last year I threw together some 300g pots last minute with roots organics 707 and greenfields. The plants seemed to like it, but I know there are much better ways to skin the cat, and probably less $ too.
I was reading about Tom hills recipe with the chicken manure...but there are just so many options.
Im new to the California climate and can finally understand why this place is truly meant to grow the herb.... sooo much sun.
Last year I threw together some 300g pots last minute with roots organics 707 and greenfields. The plants seemed to like it, but I know there are much better ways to skin the cat, and probably less $ too.
I was reading about Tom hills recipe with the chicken manure...but there are just so many options.
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Luther Burbank
Outlaw - I'd like to do some tests outside next year of plants in pure soil mix and then the same amount in amended native. It seems that pure mix has the benefit of sunlight combined with an incredibly rich mix that can be hard to attain working with native soil. That may just be my own personal perception though, and would love to get feedback on that topic from others.
My mix is modified off the old organic 33/33/33% aeration/OM/peat soil mix by Coot which is available in the Organics section here. I upped my aeration to 40% and am using a recycled glass perlite imitation - I'm very happy with the particle size), used probably 80/20 castings/finished compost for the 30% OM, and then spagnum peat for the remaining 30%. Coot's recipe leaves out high P amendments, I add 0-7-0 guano in mine. I'm awaiting test results to see what needs to be tweaked, but that'll be the mix I run outdoors next year.
I'm starting to think wider is better than deeper for cannabis plants as well, but perhaps I am just not getting the rooting that many of the big plant growers are.
My mix is modified off the old organic 33/33/33% aeration/OM/peat soil mix by Coot which is available in the Organics section here. I upped my aeration to 40% and am using a recycled glass perlite imitation - I'm very happy with the particle size), used probably 80/20 castings/finished compost for the 30% OM, and then spagnum peat for the remaining 30%. Coot's recipe leaves out high P amendments, I add 0-7-0 guano in mine. I'm awaiting test results to see what needs to be tweaked, but that'll be the mix I run outdoors next year.
I'm starting to think wider is better than deeper for cannabis plants as well, but perhaps I am just not getting the rooting that many of the big plant growers are.
sierraskunk
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TheOutlawtree- Tom hill mix works great bro!!! Give it a try…He consistently grows monsters. Stay away from the earth worm factory unless you want to pay a ton of cash for what i thought was crap.
I've grown big plants in the earthworm mix and the tom hill mix...but at this point if I were to go to a new place I hadn't dumped a bunch of earthworm and black gold I'd probably just work on turning native earth in to soil through regenerative farming then plant my weed...that'd be alongside a 25 plant 1 pallet per plant tom hill mix just because it's so easy garden to get me on my feet
Would you work some worm castings into that native soil to get a head start on humus? Would you balance the native soil? At least add Ca if it needs it? Heavy use of microbes?
I played with that on a veggie garden...heavy clay base. I am guessing a couple more yrs before it really works
I played with that on a veggie garden...heavy clay base. I am guessing a couple more yrs before it really works
I would approach with some gypsum and some cal carb and a thin layer of quality compost like diestel structured compost or bu blend or whatever tests out good , I also would use micros I needed to balance the soil..I would do fast growing things like vetch and rye , and chop and drop a few times hit with Pepzyme rejuvenate BioDigester, Spectrum , MycoGenesis
Have you tried growing a field of oilseed radish and just letting it decompose in the ground ?
Have you tried growing a field of oilseed radish and just letting it decompose in the ground ?
I got rye and legumes right now. Wish I would have used something with deep roots. Compaction is the problem. I may til it and add gypsum.
Quality was good but limited root growth hurt yield.
But yea, I would go the same way. Probably just a cover crop that first yr if possible
Quality was good but limited root growth hurt yield.
But yea, I would go the same way. Probably just a cover crop that first yr if possible
Yea, I feel like it may be good to do the oilseed radish first to break up the soil then do rye and vetch and chop and drop a few times...like you say, the first year all year multiple fast growing cover crop rounds...with 25 1 pallet mounds off to the side until the soil,is prepared
Another dozen or more posts split and binned.
This thread is going way off-topic with discussions of indoor growing in foreign lands...not that I dis growing indoors, but the thread topic was not soil, nor was it indoors.
Now that Tom has been sighted here on the site it is time to reopen this thread for questions.
This thread is going way off-topic with discussions of indoor growing in foreign lands...not that I dis growing indoors, but the thread topic was not soil, nor was it indoors.
Now that Tom has been sighted here on the site it is time to reopen this thread for questions.
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HorseMouth
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Welcome Back best thread ever!
Peace and Prosperity to all this summer.
Peace and Prosperity to all this summer.
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Cep
I've got questions:
Tom mentioned early in this thread or somewhere else that NL5xHaze crosses is a good pool to search for large yielding individuals. I'm wondering if, years later, he or anyone else has some varieties to recommend?
Also, for those who use a control wizard for pH/moisture measurements: Why does it give out super acidic readings in high o-matter mixes like black gold, peat based, compost based, etc? Is it all the organic acids or somethings about the structure of the soil not adhering to the probe tip? I've stuck to using mine for moisture only. Which probes are better for pH? I'm in the market.
Tom mentioned early in this thread or somewhere else that NL5xHaze crosses is a good pool to search for large yielding individuals. I'm wondering if, years later, he or anyone else has some varieties to recommend?
Also, for those who use a control wizard for pH/moisture measurements: Why does it give out super acidic readings in high o-matter mixes like black gold, peat based, compost based, etc? Is it all the organic acids or somethings about the structure of the soil not adhering to the probe tip? I've stuck to using mine for moisture only. Which probes are better for pH? I'm in the market.
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