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The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

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easy

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easy- what kind of fabric is that you use on those makeshift air-prune pots?

It's 6 oz/sq yard geotextile landscape fabric, the same stuff I use for the diy field fence smartpots. Cheaper fabric will work too, but the heavy stuff is easier to work with.

Edit: It can be found on ebay for a reasonable price.
 
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one of my bigger plants last season. 3lb in a 100gallon
biggest plant was 5.3lbs and in the ground.

smallest of the plants in the 100's where the purples. put off some incredible tasting and purple buds but not too much weight.

new location this year!!! no houses near by that is a huge relief.
200's this year im planning, should be a good time. Still looking for clones though
 

Dr. Purpur

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Yeah, You can tell we are are getting Amped about this years big outdoor grow. We all learned alot last year. :dance013:
 

Cannabologist

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- That’s exactly the idea Nomaad. In fact, I have gone through not only this thread but yours from last year and others, like GanjaD’s, compiling all the best information and pictures for an outdoor information guide. I feel a little cheap because I have not yet grown a plant as this large, or built/used a hoop house, and yet I am compiling and creating something based on everyone else’s information to put out there.
- My idea was (is) to ask you all for permission to use pictures and your words (and yay I’m at 50 posts to pm you all about it now J ) (and give all you guys advance copies for peer review editing) before something in PDF form was formally published. I had hoped to do this all much sooner, and april is already fast approaching, and it would be nice to get something out before the season really starts to give everyone a kick off for the new outdoor year. Let me see how quickly I can get the ball rolling. The working guide I have is well over 350 pages, but some of that is editing and compilation of organics-inorganics and general information from other threads from members like burnone, spurr, microbeman, etc. ;), so some can be edited out to just focus on large outdoor gardens and hoophouses/training (but you guys have an easy 250 pages of info between pictures and text on growing large plants and training alone regardless). We’re going to get rid of that old over guide that’s mostly useless bullshit and put out an overgrow guide that will actually give people the ka-nowledge to OVERgrow.
 
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A quick question

A quick question

I have tried to read the entire thread but I tend to miss things so if this has been answered I apologize.

When you go from whatever you cloned in to an intermediate pot what kind of soil mix do you use at that point? I am guessing you do not go straight to the mix you would use in the final pots.

Also when I look at Tom's mix I have not been able to find analysis of the admendments other than NPK. Does anyone have actual numbers. Obviously the mix is not short on anything but I am curious where the Mg and micros come from (and I do know Brix Mix provides a lot of micros but I doubt that is all of them).

Plus...when you reuse soil do you have a soil analysis and then amend based on what you are short on...or do you just add all of the admendments again?

I am going to get to do my first outdoor grow this year. I plan to use 100 gallon smart pots on maybe 8 ft centers. I am excited but have come to realize during the planning stage that it ain't anything like indoor growing...still plenty of questions.

Anyways...thanks for the great thread everyone.
 
When you go from whatever you cloned in to an intermediate pot what kind of soil mix do you use
I recently transplanted extra Blue Dream and Alien Kush clones to join the other Mothers under the lights. We use Happy Frog's soil mix (it is a wonderful medium and contains microbes). We sprinkle in some bone-meal and transplant the girls into 5 inch pots and water them in with a light fertilizer. They take off; our recent batch have tripled in growth in one week.

Secondary Nutrients: Soils are rarely deficient of Secondary Nutrients; But oyster shell, green-sand, K-mag (http://www.kmag.com/why.htm), and many other fertilizers help guarantee a well amended soil.

As for microbes; last season we added a handful of Mykos (http://xtreme-gardening.com/mykos/what-is-mykos/) to each hole while transplanting into the ground. In addition, beneficial home-brewed teas are a must (when made properly and applied to your soil you will have a thriving ecosystem, aiding to your plants success and health).

When you reuse soil do you have a soil analysis and then amend based on what you are short on...or do you just add all of the amendments again?
I suppose this depends on the farmer. I've been told that if you have taken the time to amend and build your soil with the mixes that are detailed throughout this thread, especially with all the liquid fertilizer, guano, et cetera that is added throughout the grow season, you should not have to amend your soil for years (many years)... However, every spring we find ourselves rebuilding and adding more (just to be sure)... Have fun!
 

BudMan30

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do you start those huge ones inside before putting them out or not and whats the best strain if i want a monster outdoor plant?
 

Guyute54

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My Son came by and picked up some Deep Chunk pollen I have in the freezer. He is going to pollenate a Chemdog 91 with it. He took some haze pollen as well.

Cool I made that same cross last summer. Grew 2 of em so far indoors. They both took the structure of the DC with the big fat leaves and rock hard nugs, but they took on the smell of the 91. I got clones of them and plan on putting a few outdoors this summer. DC hybrids kick ass outdoors by me (43 lat) there ussually med. yeilders but look just like indoor grown herb.
 
Growing large plants posts 1-1000

A far from complete list.

Some of these links are really just place holders for the starts of interesting conversations.

This list focuses mainly on the lighting and preparation. Please help me expand that.

I will try to do the next 2000 posts soonish and keep this post updated, but no promises.

Big ups to Cannabologist for motivating me to formalize this list.

Tom's soil mix: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=2622820&postcount=2
Tom's Pic of the month: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=2826005&postcount=61
Nomaad's 2009 enforcement post: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=2837193&postcount=68
Tom's continuing discussion of calcium https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=2859871&postcount=78
Tom's 2010 garden plan: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3199096&postcount=157
Tom weighs in about outdoor lighting https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3207365&postcount=175
Butte Talks about hortinova trellis and lighting in an outdoor garden https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3254870&postcount=225
Tom talks about methodology and soil mix https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3281054&postcount=251
Nomaad starts talking pest control https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3308037&postcount=313
Tom talks about outdoor lighting https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3317044&postcount=322
Butte talks soil mixing https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3329267&postcount=359
Tom's lit up garden https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3382184&postcount=460
Butte's lighting solution https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3399655&postcount=496
Tom talks pruning https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3424420&postcount=601
Tom talks transplanting. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3432589&postcount=638
Butte talks Teas and Pest control https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3448949&postcount=744
Hashman's summary of the first 40 pages https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3461768&postcount=813
Local Hero's lighting with hoods, and a few posts later talks pot contruction https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3474769&postcount=834
Local hero's irrigation system https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=3506483&postcount=989
 
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Afghanada

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Damn! you Norcal guys know how to do it! would like to see some of these works in person one day very impressive, only if we had that Cali sunshine extend up into the north, keep up the good work down there eh!
 

humblefish

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Great summary list Arkady 2300. It'll be a great help as I start my second season growing the large od.
Being a bit of a wordsmith myself, I toyed with working this thread into something publishable, but the last thing the world needs is another lisping georgie boy writing another boring how-to guide that's not informed by ample amounts of actual experience and/or some formal training in biology.
 
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