Great post on this grow this site is great lots of good info. Yeah I bet the light was the problem, untill I saw a post about the roots and not being able to grow in almost any light i was having similar problems. Now i can get a single leaf to grow roots sometimes. Well I hope my crop turns out ok I should be seeing the first few plants poking through the fiffy plugs. I need to get some pics and start a thread so i can get feedback on my setup. Thanks again for the response and keep up the great work.