I have always thought og was probably an hk x sk cross from nevs stock via samS,, potentially ortaga types etc,,it could easily have come though nevs work,,
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The DEFINITIVE OG Kush History
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who knows, Some of nevils lines are still kept locked down with a death grip in Florida.
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Most modern cannabis strains can be traced back to nevs work. You aren’t really adding much but the obvious.
Find the parents of OG and then you’re onto something....
Find the parents of OG and then you’re onto something....
This is what I was always interested in and usually what I would guess the genetics come from. Without knowing anything else, it would make sense for most phenomenal plants found around that time to have more likely originated from whatever seeds were being grown the most. And the selection was nothing compared to what it is today in terms of the market size for seed breeders and vendors. So it's statistically more likely that it came from his stuff at some point.
For years I just assumed someone bought 100s of Amsterdam seeds and grew them out in the mountains,, but it's also possible that them same mountain people had hippy trail seeds too,,(they are cheaper),,,
But to look at it,,, og sorta seems like an sk1 cross,,,?,, any takers,,, i bet hk was the standard kush and sk1 is where the funk comes from?????
But to look at it,,, og sorta seems like an sk1 cross,,,?,, any takers,,, i bet hk was the standard kush and sk1 is where the funk comes from?????
Dankwolf
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Pure speculation but my guess is og kush is a early version of skunk selection leaning to the mazar- I sherif side . that in the mid 80s to late early 90s was crossed to a nev haze/ haze hybrid then selected and worked or stumbeld upon that was better then both parents in effect and flowering time .
There again maybe we will never know .
There again maybe we will never know .
It’s definitely of Afghan/Paki/Hindu origin. I don’t think there’s much debate on that. It’s hard to really narrow that one down. It has the structure of a paki/Hindu but the flowers really remind me of Afghan. I don’t see much skunk influence in it at all. Knowing the seed came from Florida, and how rich the culture is down there, it could honestly be a number of things. But I really think the base of it is a highland Afghan/Paki/Hindu and I lean towards more the Afghan or Hindu more than the Paki. I feel there would be purple phenotypes in paki as most populations I’ve seen have them.
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IncenseRosemary
I have grown
thousand seeds of Sensi,before the seedbank. All American ''NEW'' genetics CHEM,SOUR and OG are from skunkxafghan,skunkxhindu,shiva shanti...gene pool. Sour Diesel is 85%-90% Super Skunk. To me OG is super skunk x hindu kush genepool. I have grown many packs and know many phenos to be found old school Garlic Bud in shanti can give you CHEM phenos very smelly,skunky,roten,meaty,garlic.... Americans go in that way on selection the more smell the better. In Europe people in that time chase White strains(WWx...),and fruty skunks and hazes. SLH,SSH,MANGO,CRITICAL.... All in all to me all ''strains'' but they not strains like in other vegetables etc...All in all its all the same jsut renamed and marketing but if you grow lots of sensi seeds. U will see that 98% of todays strans are just renamed phenos of old seed bank catalogue. Nevill is the king of modern cananbis and his crew..of 80's. I dont want to say that befofe Nevil,Sams and others people dont breed cananbis but i think that they make one step further all strains today just renamed phenos from old seed stocks and that is 100% shure.
thousand seeds of Sensi,before the seedbank. All American ''NEW'' genetics CHEM,SOUR and OG are from skunkxafghan,skunkxhindu,shiva shanti...gene pool. Sour Diesel is 85%-90% Super Skunk. To me OG is super skunk x hindu kush genepool. I have grown many packs and know many phenos to be found old school Garlic Bud in shanti can give you CHEM phenos very smelly,skunky,roten,meaty,garlic.... Americans go in that way on selection the more smell the better. In Europe people in that time chase White strains(WWx...),and fruty skunks and hazes. SLH,SSH,MANGO,CRITICAL.... All in all to me all ''strains'' but they not strains like in other vegetables etc...All in all its all the same jsut renamed and marketing but if you grow lots of sensi seeds. U will see that 98% of todays strans are just renamed phenos of old seed bank catalogue. Nevill is the king of modern cananbis and his crew..of 80's. I dont want to say that befofe Nevil,Sams and others people dont breed cananbis but i think that they make one step further all strains today just renamed phenos from old seed stocks and that is 100% shure.
Happy Times
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I always wondered what old school building blocks might be in Chem. That Shiva Shanti idea seems plausible
For what it's worth.....Truecannabliss found an OG pheno in some Afghani Landrace seeds. He's got a bunch of pics up at Insta.
LOL. You all are too funny. It isn't a mystery. No need to speculate with all these crazy theories.
Chem '91 x Rob Clarke Ghani = OG Kush - if in fact, I ever figured out how to read that galaxy thing, that is...LOL. Or that line in red could just be showing that Chem '91 is in fact a parent and that Bubba Kush is OG x Ghani - which I think is the more probably conclusion to make, because that falls in line with the story we know from Matt Berger - The plant they were growing, which they called "Bubba" which was lost. They assumed it was a NL pheno or something. Must have been this "Ghani" - and it must still be around, in the hands of RCC.
That Ghani is described as: Collected on Pakistan side of Khyber Pass – Low myrcene and high bisabolol.
When you look at the rings in the genotype report on Phylos, it describes the plants on the inner circle as "immediate relatives", which includes both OG Kush and Bubba Kush family clusters. It very well could be that OG is in fact, Chem '91 x Ghani.
Make of it what you will - but it certainly isn't something to be just randomly guessed at anymore.
dank.Frank
Chem '91 x Rob Clarke Ghani = OG Kush - if in fact, I ever figured out how to read that galaxy thing, that is...LOL. Or that line in red could just be showing that Chem '91 is in fact a parent and that Bubba Kush is OG x Ghani - which I think is the more probably conclusion to make, because that falls in line with the story we know from Matt Berger - The plant they were growing, which they called "Bubba" which was lost. They assumed it was a NL pheno or something. Must have been this "Ghani" - and it must still be around, in the hands of RCC.
That Ghani is described as: Collected on Pakistan side of Khyber Pass – Low myrcene and high bisabolol.
When you look at the rings in the genotype report on Phylos, it describes the plants on the inner circle as "immediate relatives", which includes both OG Kush and Bubba Kush family clusters. It very well could be that OG is in fact, Chem '91 x Ghani.
Make of it what you will - but it certainly isn't something to be just randomly guessed at anymore.
dank.Frank
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What is Rob Clarke ghani and where do we find that cut? Any idea if it was a standard male female breeding or a lucky feminized mistake?
My chem 91 s1 I have had since 09 has proven to be the best breeding plant I have worked with. I have a feeling with the right male the percentage of winning offspring will go way up. Maybe the headbanger I just used. Or the chem 91 s1/chem d bx3 x headbanger seeds I just made? Will be checking soon.
I've got some Gorilla Girl that nobody will make me believe don't have OG rascal fire OG in it. I've not smoked any glues that remind me of OG. Anybody back a decade+ ago who smoked Rascals Fire definitely remember the taste. I was shocked but figure the Cookies are in with OG thick, it's not coming from Glue. At least I've not smoked glue and thought OG
OG Kush is bagseed of "Supernaut". Tells us either Supernaut was coming from some place where they were also growing Chem '91 - and more than likely, Supernaut was Ghani.
Chances are the '91 hermied on to the Ghani - because the Ghani, when looking at Phylos is shown to be rare, and rather stable, with much less variation than many other cultivars.
So you assume, Ghani x Chem '91 fem pollen, is likely what those seeds were.
When you look back to the story again - the "Bubba" was lost (thought to be an NL) - but it was hit by the Kush pollen. Those seeds were sorted and Bubba Kush was born. So that means:
Bubba Kush = Ghani x OG Kush. and OG Kush = Ghani x Chem '91.
This is precisely why a Bubba Kush x Chem '91 cross is so appealing. It's also why Bubba Kush x OG Kush is so appealing, if you are really trying to use what we know about what is available to stack and concentrate the "kush" gene pool..
dank.Frank
definitely og and urkle in cookies
I am flowering some of verdants Bubba males with hopes of finding a real stinker. Already have the chem 91 s1 getting ready to do the deed.
I'd like for Nspecta to make a Bomb Threat x Josh D cut line of fems, personally. Until then, I'm just over here waiting.
I have some Bomb Threat x Bubba seeds - but I doubt they will germinate. That's essentially a Bubba Bx1 using selfing, as the Bomb Threat is a Bubba S1. Those seeds hold something special if they sprout. I'd certainly take the best plant from that line and pair it with the best BTY S1 I can find.
But that is just because I like kush and it doesn't really bother me that it's been done before.
dank.Frank
I have some Bomb Threat x Bubba seeds - but I doubt they will germinate. That's essentially a Bubba Bx1 using selfing, as the Bomb Threat is a Bubba S1. Those seeds hold something special if they sprout. I'd certainly take the best plant from that line and pair it with the best BTY S1 I can find.
But that is just because I like kush and it doesn't really bother me that it's been done before.
dank.Frank
I just got a pack of specifically that. Bty x bubba kush. It was og in structure with some og smell but mostly bubba smell with some la confidential type notes coming off of it. It was some very nice nug. Trichome coverage was insane, and the stone lived up to its looks and parents. The guys are hoarding the cut. I will pry one loose soon though. The guys owe me a couple favors.
I will s1 it as soon as I get it to sort through and share with people I know won't hoard it if they find a gem.
