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The 2020 Presidential Election

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Anyone watch the Bernie rally/town meeting tonight in Exeter, NH?


I was surprised to see such a small crowd especially considering his grass roots popularity. But it's probably been snowing all day and Exeter isn't exactly Boston.

I listened to most of it and since I know his platforms I was listening for anything new and crowd reaction.

For what ever reason the crowd was fairly low energy but I noted 2 topics out of many that Bernie talked about which drew the loudest responses.

The first was taking on the military industrial complex.
The second and probably the loudest was legalizing cannabis.

I did agree with him strongly when he said he can't beat the oil companies, insurance companies, drug companies and the military industrial complex on his own. I give him credit for disclosing that reality to his supporters. Also deserves credit for being able to talk to his supporters at length without a telepromter.
 

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The deepstate is a criminal complex. It has been estimated to have aproximately 60,000 operatives per country. Currently, and unprecedentedly, there are over 100,000 sealed indictments in the US Justice Department right now.

In other words you do not know.

There is a deepstate but it is an organization of the cream of the old wealth and corporate movers. They are Trump's boss and every other president and most American statesmen in recent times.
 
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Mr D

I believe this is not factual. Everything I have read says that Republicans had access as committee members.

Interesting you cut off the part of that quote about witnesses.

The rules required the minority be given a day to call witnesses and they were wrongly denied that right. That speaks to a sham because there was no valid reason to deny minority witnesses.



That was one rule that was over looked when Pelosi presented her new rules for the 116th congress which had this sham impeachment baked in.
 

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-the-closed-door-house-impeachment-meetings-11571423200

Dems kept the republicans from questioning the witnesses. Might as well get Stalin in there so you don't need to have a witness. Just take his word for it.

You can bet your ass they will be questioned in the senate if they call witnesses.

Your link and other similar articles prove my point that Republicans were on the committees and had access. I said nothing of the witnesses. I believe there were only certain witnesses they could not question and certain types of questions. This is what I observed in the public hearings. Some made sense, some did not. Both sides are corrupt.
 

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Interesting you cut off the part of that quote about witnesses.

The rules required the minority be given a day to call witnesses and they were wrongly denied that right. That speaks to a sham because there was no valid reason to deny minority witnesses.



That was one rule that was over looked when Pelosi presented her new rules for the 116th congress which had this sham impeachment baked in.

That is because I was only addressing one point. I am not apprised of the whole witness scenario
 
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In other words you do not know.

There is a deepstate but it is an organization of the cream of the old wealth and corporate movers. They are Trump's boss and every other president and most American statesmen in recent times.


Not sure I'd call the puppet masters the deep state.

I think what Hempy is referring to as the deep state is the intelligence agencies, FBI, DOJ, State Department. Which are largely creations within the executive branch.
 

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Not sure I'd call the puppet masters the deep state.

I think what Hempy is referring to as the deep state is the intelligence agencies, FBI, DOJ, State Department. Which are largely creations within the executive branch.

Those are just tools.
 

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Not sure I'd call the puppet masters the deep state.

I think what Hempy is referring to as the deep state is the intelligence agencies, FBI, DOJ, State Department. Which are largely creations within the executive branch.

Also Hempy did not state that. It would have made more sense than what he did say.
 
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Mr D

Sorry to disappoint you. I was just correcting what I saw as an error. I don't want to talk about the unknown

Violation of house rules concerning the right of the minority to call witnesses is not an unknown. More of an inconvenient fact for those who hold up the process undertaken as legit.

Starting the process in the Intelligence committee instead Judiciary where it belongs Then denying the minority there rights the under rules makes it a sham.

You don't have to change the rules and pull bullshit stunts if you have a solid case.
 

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Hello all,

Where these not the rules put in place in 14' by the Republican controlled house? Am I wrong on that?

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minds_I

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Hello all,

The damn dems using the their own rules against them.....diabolical

Brings a pleasant smile to my face in thinking about being "hoisted with their own petard"


Buahahahahahahaha

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