The 2020 Presidential Election

[med4u]

One thing Trump does well is changing news cycles to suite his needs. He wanted all the talk about his Impeachment off the front page. He was willing to start a war to accomplish that. He does this every time there's something Bad about him on the front page. As we all can see Impeachment hasn't been brought up since this all started.

when is there not something bad about trump in the headlines you read? this is also why you have not heard anything about impeachment...people out here in the real world are fully up to date on impeachment

 

[Microbeman]

Well, don't take my word for it.

"If you are awaiting a finding of "clear and present danger," then I can only say that the danger has never been more clear and its presence has never been more imminent.

It requires a change in outlook, a change in tactics, a change in missions--by the government, by the people, by every businessman or labor leader, and by every newspaper. For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried, not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."
-JFK

You conveniently excluded the continuation of the statement by JFK making it pretty clear he is talking about the efforts of those east of the iron curtain during the cold war. You even cut the copy and paste mid-paragraph. He was addressing the press, encouraging them to use discretion in publications which could endanger national security but to not refrain from revealing mistakes made by his administration. Here is how it reads past where you cut it; the last sentence you posted is first in italics

"No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

Nevertheless, every democracy recognizes the necessary restraints of national security--and the question remains whether those restraints need to be more strictly observed if we are to oppose this kind of attack as well as outright invasion.

For the facts of the matter are that this nation's foes have openly boasted of acquiring through our newspapers information they would otherwise hire agents to acquire through theft, bribery or espionage; that details of this nation's covert preparations to counter the enemy's covert operations have been available to every newspaper reader, friend and foe alike; that the size, the strength, the location and the nature of our forces and weapons, and our plans and strategy for their use, have all been pinpointed in the press and other news media to a degree sufficient to satisfy any foreign power; and that, in at least in one case, the publication of details concerning a secret mechanism whereby satellites were followed required its alteration at the expense of considerable time and money.

The newspapers which printed these stories were loyal, patriotic, responsible and well-meaning. Had we been engaged in open warfare, they undoubtedly would not have published such items. But in the absence of open warfare, they recognized only the tests of journalism and not the tests of national security. And my question tonight is whether additional tests should not now be adopted.

The question is for you alone to answer. No public official should answer it for you. No governmental plan should impose its restraints against your will. But I would be failing in my duty to the nation, in considering all of the responsibilities that we now bear and all of the means at hand to meet those responsibilities, if I did not commend this problem to your attention, and urge its thoughtful consideration.

On many earlier occasions, I have said--and your newspapers have constantly said--that these are times that appeal to every citizen's sense of sacrifice and self-discipline. They call out to every citizen to weigh his rights and comforts against his obligations to the common good. I cannot now believe that those citizens who serve in the newspaper business consider themselves exempt from that appeal.

I have no intention of establishing a new Office of War Information to govern the flow of news. I am not suggesting any new forms of censorship or any new types of security classifications. I have no easy answer to the dilemma that I have posed, and would not seek to impose it if I had one. But I am asking the members of the newspaper profession and the industry in this country to reexamine their own responsibilities, to consider the degree and the nature of the present danger, and to heed the duty of self-restraint which that danger imposes upon us all.

Every newspaper now asks itself, with respect to every story: "Is it news?" All I suggest is that you add the question: "Is it in the interest of the national security?" And I hope that every group in America--unions and businessmen and public officials at every level-- will ask the same question of their endeavors, and subject their actions to the same exacting tests.

And should the press of America consider and recommend the voluntary assumption of specific new steps or machinery, I can assure you that we will cooperate whole-heartedly with those recommendations.

Perhaps there will be no recommendations. Perhaps there is no answer to the dilemma faced by a free and open society in a cold and secret war. In times of peace, any discussion of this subject, and any action that results, are both painful and without precedent. But this is a time of peace and peril which knows no precedent in history.

II

It is the unprecedented nature of this challenge that also gives rise to your second obligation--an obligation which I share. And that is our obligation to inform and alert the American people--to make certain that they possess all the facts that they need, and understand them as well--the perils, the prospects, the purposes of our program and the choices that we face.

No President should fear public scrutiny of his program. For from that scrutiny comes understanding; and from that understanding comes support or opposition. And both are necessary. I am not asking your newspapers to support the Administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed.

I not only could not stifle controversy among your readers--I welcome it. This Administration intends to be candid about its errors; for as a wise man once said: "An error does not become a mistake until you refuse to correct it." We intend to accept full responsibility for our errors; and we expect you to point them out when we miss them.

Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no country can succeed--and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. And that is why our press was protected by the First Amendment-- the only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution- -not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to emphasize the trivial and the sentimental, not to simply "give the public what it wants"--but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises and our choices, to lead, mold, educate and sometimes even anger public opinion.

This means greater coverage and analysis of international news--for it is no longer far away and foreign but close at hand and local. It means greater attention to improved understanding of the news as well as improved transmission. And it means, finally, that government at all levels, must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information outside the narrowest limits of national security--and we intend to do it.

III

It was early in the Seventeenth Century that Francis Bacon remarked on three recent inventions already transforming the world: the compass, gunpowder and the printing press. Now the links between the nations first forged by the compass have made us all citizens of the world, the hopes and threats of one becoming the hopes and threats of us all. In that one world's efforts to live together, the evolution of gunpowder to its ultimate limit has warned mankind of the terrible consequences of failure.

And so it is to the printing press--to the recorder of man's deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news--that we look for strength and assistance, confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be: free and independent."

https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives...can-newspaper-publishers-association-19610427

Don't forget some of us witnessed many of the events you attempt to construe to your device. Some of us could even be poets of the deep state propaganda machine: biggrin:

EDIT; You can listen to the speech at the site linked if you want to hear a real president

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

And, what is there to distract from anyeway? Nancy is not forking it over to the Senate.

Probably because it will show high criminality on the part of Adam Schiff and he'll be forced to resign.

 

[med4u]

One thing Trump does well is changing news cycles to suite his needs. He wanted all the talk about his Impeachment off the front page. He was willing to start a war to accomplish that. He does this every time there's something Bad about him on the front page. As we all can see Impeachment hasn't been brought up since this all started.

heres a lil update for ya ham...


https://www.rollcall.com/news/congr...s-proceed-without-democrats-impeachment-trail

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Four GOP senators just need to think critically.

I can hold on to hope.

 

['Boogieman']

Four GOP senators just need to think critically.

I can hold on to hope.

Four GOP senators will not give you a 2/3 majority lol.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Genius

 

[Hammerhead]

LOL, They need 67 out of 100 to convict..


The dems only need to take 4 seats to gain control of the senate. This could be a game changer for many issues.

 

[Mr D]

A sign from god that Trump is the anti Christ....

 

[Hempy McNoodle]

You conveniently excluded the continuation of the statement by JFK making it pretty clear he is talking about the efforts of those east of the iron curtain during the cold war. You even cut the copy and paste mid-paragraph. He was addressing the press, encouraging them to use discretion in publications which could endanger national security but to not refrain from revealing mistakes made by his administration. Here is how it reads past where you cut it; the last sentence you posted is first in italics

"No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed. It conducts the Cold War, in short, with a war-time discipline no democracy would ever hope or wish to match.

Nevertheless, every democracy recognizes the necessary restraints of national security--and the question remains whether those restraints need to be more strictly observed if we are to oppose this kind of attack as well as outright invasion.

For the facts of the matter are that this nation's foes have openly boasted of acquiring through our newspapers information they would otherwise hire agents to acquire through theft, bribery or espionage; that details of this nation's covert preparations to counter the enemy's covert operations have been available to every newspaper reader, friend and foe alike; that the size, the strength, the location and the nature of our forces and weapons, and our plans and strategy for their use, have all been pinpointed in the press and other news media to a degree sufficient to satisfy any foreign power; and that, in at least in one case, the publication of details concerning a secret mechanism whereby satellites were followed required its alteration at the expense of considerable time and money.

The newspapers which printed these stories were loyal, patriotic, responsible and well-meaning. Had we been engaged in open warfare, they undoubtedly would not have published such items. But in the absence of open warfare, they recognized only the tests of journalism and not the tests of national security. And my question tonight is whether additional tests should not now be adopted.

The question is for you alone to answer. No public official should answer it for you. No governmental plan should impose its restraints against your will. But I would be failing in my duty to the nation, in considering all of the responsibilities that we now bear and all of the means at hand to meet those responsibilities, if I did not commend this problem to your attention, and urge its thoughtful consideration.

On many earlier occasions, I have said--and your newspapers have constantly said--that these are times that appeal to every citizen's sense of sacrifice and self-discipline. They call out to every citizen to weigh his rights and comforts against his obligations to the common good. I cannot now believe that those citizens who serve in the newspaper business consider themselves exempt from that appeal.

I have no intention of establishing a new Office of War Information to govern the flow of news. I am not suggesting any new forms of censorship or any new types of security classifications. I have no easy answer to the dilemma that I have posed, and would not seek to impose it if I had one. But I am asking the members of the newspaper profession and the industry in this country to reexamine their own responsibilities, to consider the degree and the nature of the present danger, and to heed the duty of self-restraint which that danger imposes upon us all.

Every newspaper now asks itself, with respect to every story: "Is it news?" All I suggest is that you add the question: "Is it in the interest of the national security?" And I hope that every group in America--unions and businessmen and public officials at every level-- will ask the same question of their endeavors, and subject their actions to the same exacting tests.

And should the press of America consider and recommend the voluntary assumption of specific new steps or machinery, I can assure you that we will cooperate whole-heartedly with those recommendations.

Perhaps there will be no recommendations. Perhaps there is no answer to the dilemma faced by a free and open society in a cold and secret war. In times of peace, any discussion of this subject, and any action that results, are both painful and without precedent. But this is a time of peace and peril which knows no precedent in history.

II

It is the unprecedented nature of this challenge that also gives rise to your second obligation--an obligation which I share. And that is our obligation to inform and alert the American people--to make certain that they possess all the facts that they need, and understand them as well--the perils, the prospects, the purposes of our program and the choices that we face.

No President should fear public scrutiny of his program. For from that scrutiny comes understanding; and from that understanding comes support or opposition. And both are necessary. I am not asking your newspapers to support the Administration, but I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people. For I have complete confidence in the response and dedication of our citizens whenever they are fully informed.

I not only could not stifle controversy among your readers--I welcome it. This Administration intends to be candid about its errors; for as a wise man once said: "An error does not become a mistake until you refuse to correct it." We intend to accept full responsibility for our errors; and we expect you to point them out when we miss them.

Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no country can succeed--and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy. And that is why our press was protected by the First Amendment-- the only business in America specifically protected by the Constitution- -not primarily to amuse and entertain, not to emphasize the trivial and the sentimental, not to simply "give the public what it wants"--but to inform, to arouse, to reflect, to state our dangers and our opportunities, to indicate our crises and our choices, to lead, mold, educate and sometimes even anger public opinion.

This means greater coverage and analysis of international news--for it is no longer far away and foreign but close at hand and local. It means greater attention to improved understanding of the news as well as improved transmission. And it means, finally, that government at all levels, must meet its obligation to provide you with the fullest possible information outside the narrowest limits of national security--and we intend to do it.

III

It was early in the Seventeenth Century that Francis Bacon remarked on three recent inventions already transforming the world: the compass, gunpowder and the printing press. Now the links between the nations first forged by the compass have made us all citizens of the world, the hopes and threats of one becoming the hopes and threats of us all. In that one world's efforts to live together, the evolution of gunpowder to its ultimate limit has warned mankind of the terrible consequences of failure.

And so it is to the printing press--to the recorder of man's deeds, the keeper of his conscience, the courier of his news--that we look for strength and assistance, confident that with your help man will be what he was born to be: free and independent."

https://www.jfklibrary.org/archives...can-newspaper-publishers-association-19610427

Don't forget some of us witnessed many of the events you attempt to construe to your device. Some of us could even be poets of the deep state propaganda machine: biggrin:

EDIT; You can listen to the speech at the site linked if you want to hear a real president

I encourage everyone to read or listen to the entire speech. It is not clear that he was only talking about what lies east of the iron curtan. Plus, you left out the part about secret societies. Anyway, the speech is called "President and the Press." Check it out.

 

[Microbeman]

I encourage everyone to read or listen to the entire speech. It is not clear that he was only talking about what lies east of the iron curtan. Plus, you left out the part about secret societies. Anyway, the speech is called "President and the Press." Check it out.

I just started where you left off. I left nothing out. That is a disingenuous allusion. I also did not say 'what lies east of the iron curtain'.

 

[TychoMonolyth]

Never thought I'd say this, but Trump did the right thing swallowing his pride and not hitting back. He saved a shit ton of lives today.

But I did notice he was breathing pretty hard. lol

 

[minds_I]

Never thought I'd say this, but Trump did the right thing swallowing his pride and not hitting back. He saved a shit ton of lives today.

But I did notice he was breathing pretty hard. lol

Hello all,

Sweaty too...I thought the make-up on his face was gonna slide down....buahahahahaha avalanche? buahahahahaha

He was restrained and it showed.



minds_I

 

[Absolem]

The term "Deep State" is the new form of McCarthyism.

"McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence. The term refers to U.S. senator Joseph McCarthy and has its origins in the period in the United States known as the Second Red Scare, lasting from the late 1940s through the 1950s."

 

[med4u]

LOL, They need 67 out of 100 to convict..


The dems only need to take 4 seats to gain control of the senate. This could be a game changer for many issues.

It could but keep in mind there are several dems in trump states that will probably be flipped
Also all members of the house are up for re election,and with their shoddy nonperformance in the last 2
Yrs...the house will be easier to flip
Than Senate seats
With Trumps new victory in the middle east and a win in impeachment...I see a repubs taking the house with ease...should be entertaining fo sho....

 

[minds_I]

Yeah, and who helped him? The media, the democrats, foreign nations?
Was the intel correct?
Was there other intel available that countered the narative?

War crimes?
Crimes against humanity?
Tranfer of wealth from the people to the powerful?

He3llo all,

Um, you may not be old enough to remember, but as I recall it it was Rumsfeld and Cheney that shoved that down the American throats..

WMD's, yellowcake....use our google machine to educate yourself'''please.\\

Also, it is better to remain silent and thought the fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.


minds_I

 

[h.h.]

Nothing to see here.

 

[h.h.]

Another unknown soldier
Another lesson learned
Kicked the gas can over
Strike a match, sit back and watch that sucker burn
Keep smiling for the camera
Keep waving to the crowd
Don't let up for an instance
Stay the course and make your mama proud
You're the man
Show them what you're made of
You're no longer daddies boy
You're the man, they're all afraid of
But you're only Cheney's toy
Another unknown soldier
We seen it all before
All in the name of Jesus
Behind the razor wire and shackled to the floor
Just keep smiling at the camera
Keep that twinkle in your eye
We don't need to know the answers
Long as we safe, hit your marks and say your lines
You're the man
Show them what you're made of
You're no longer daddies boy
Take a stand
Give them what you paid for
Because you are only Cheney's toy
He'll take a fork and turn you over
While the fat lady sings
One more Pen on, one more shoulders
All the future brings
For another unknown soldier
Who don't know his own name
And he won't get any older
And he can't see for the shrapnel in his brain
You're the man
Show them what you're made of
You're no longer daddies boy
Take a stand
Give them what you paid for
Because you are only Cheney's toy
You're the man
Show them what you're made of
You're no longer daddies boy
Makes you grin
When the guns are blazing
Bring them home
Cheney's toy
Makes you grin
When the guns are blazing
Bring them home
Cheney's toy
Bring them home
Cheney's toy [Repeat: x 2]
Source: LyricFind
Songwriters: James Mcmurtry

 

[h.h.]

There's a Vietnam Vet with a cardboard sign
Sitting there by the left turn line
The flag on his wheelchair flapping in the breeze
One leg missing and both hands free
No one?s paying much mind to him
The V.A. budget?s just stretched so thin
And now there's more coming back from the Mideast war
We can't make it here anymore
And that big ol? building was the textile mill
That fed our kids and it paid our bills
But they turned us out and they closed the doors
'Cause we can't make it here anymore
You see those pallets piled up on the loading dock
They're just gonna sit there ?til they rot
?Cause there's nothing to ship, nothing to pack
Just busted concrete and rusted tracks
Empty storefronts around the square
There's a needle in the gutter and glass everywhere
You don't come down here unless you're looking to score
We can't make it here anymore
The bar?s still open but man it?s slow
The tip jar?s light and the register?s low
The bartender don't have much to say
The regular crowd gets thinner each day
Some have maxed out all their credit cards
Some are working two jobs and living in cars
Minimum wage won't pay for a roof, won't pay for a drink
If you gotta have proof just try it yourself Mr. C.E.O.
See how far 5.15 an hour will go
Take a part time job at one your stores
I bet you can't make it here anymore
And there's a high school girl with a bourgeois dream
Just like the pictures in the magazine
She found on the floor of the laundromat
A woman with kids can forget all that
If she comes up pregnant what'll she do
Forget the career and forget about school
Can she live on faith? Live on hope?
High on Jesus or hooked on dope
When it?s way too late to just say no
You can't make it here anymore
Now I'm stocking shirts in the Wal-Mart store
Just like the ones we made before
?Cept this one came from Singapore
I guess we can't make it here anymore
Should I hate a people for the shade of their skin
Or the shape of their eyes or the shape I'm in
Should I hate ?em for having our jobs today
No I hate the men sent the jobs away
I can see them all now, they haunt my dreams
All lily white and squeaky clean
They've never known want, they'll never know need
Their shit don't stink and their kids won't bleed
Their kids won't bleed in their damn little war
And we can't make it here anymore
Will I work for food, will I die for oil
Will kill for power and to us the spoils
The billionaires get to pay less tax
The working poor get to fall through the cracks
So let ?em eat jellybeans let ?em eat cake
Let ?em eat shit, whatever it takes
They can join the Air Force or join the Corps
If they can't make it here anymore
So that's how it is, that's what we got
If the president wants to admit it or not
You can read it in the paper, read it on the wall
Hear it on the wind if you're listening at all
Get out of that limo, look us in the eye
Call us on the cell phone tell us all why
In Dayton Ohio or Portland Maine
Or a cotton gin out on the great high plains
That's done closed down along with the school
And the hospital and the swimming pool
Dust devils dance in the noonday heat
There's rats in the alley and trash in the street
Gang graffiti on a boxcar door
We can't make it here anymore
Source: LyricFind
Songwriters: James Mcmurtry

 

[med4u]

Never thought I'd say this, but Trump did the right thing swallowing his pride and not hitting back. He savea shit ton of lives today.

But I did notice he was breathing pretty hard. lol

Hes prolly been up a few days...I should think a fairly stressful few days...one should wonder how well
They would perform in such a situation...