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The 2020 Presidential Election

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Hempy McNoodle

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Coronavirus has been listed on a can of lysol for years. Spend some time reading something besides conspiracy nonsense. Virus have been mutating since the beginning of time. It's a mutation of a well known virus, not a bioweapon. :wallbash:

The COVID-19 coronavirus epidemic has a natural origin, scientists say
https://www.scripps.edu/news-and-events/press-room/2020/20200317-andersen-covid-19-coronavirus.html

Hello All, I have been very busy lately with lots of things including how to navigate this shelter in place situation as far as work goes. But, I wanted to address this 'scientific' article and the research it was based on. It is a quintessential piece of blatently pseudoscientific propaganda. I plan on doing a little bit of a deeper dive into it and possibly other examples of political pseudoscientific propaganda when I have more time. But in the meantime, you can all click the link above and read it for yourselves and see if you can identify the problems I see with it.
Hint: Focus on the methodology used to ARRIVE AT THEIR 'scientific'(?) CONCLUSION and their field of expertise.
 

Hempy McNoodle

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well played sir!
i am slain by your rapier wit!:dueling:


excellent use of the fox news "own the libs" insult generator!:biggrin:


pleas,allow me a moment to brace myself for your next foray,i'm expecting something of the caliber of "oh yeah" or "says you"!


:)


:biggrin:
You just wait! I'll think of sump'n!
Fox news own the libs insult generator says ' ERROR STANDBY' ..made in China, what do you expect?
 

audiohi

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I have no idea what you are refering to here.

That's surprising.

*https://www.propublica.org/article/senator-dumped-up-to-1-7-million-of-stock-after-reassuring-public-about-coronavirus-preparedness
*Senator Dumped Up to $1.7 Million of Stock After Reassuring Public About Coronavirus Preparedness
Intelligence Chair Richard Burr’s selloff came around the time he was receiving daily briefings on the health threat.​


*https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-burr-offered-a-dire-warning-about-the-coronavirus-at-a-private-luncheon-three-weeks-ago/2020/03/19/faef91a0-69f6-11ea-abef-020f086a3fab_story.html
*Sen. Burr offered dire warning about the coronavirus at private luncheon three weeks ago
A recording obtained and aired Thursday by NPR prompted scrutiny over whether Burr had offered a more frank warning at a Capitol Hill event sponsored by North Carolina business leaders than he and his colleagues were sharing more broadly.​


*https://www.thedailybeast.com/sen-kelly-loeffler-dumped-millions-in-stock-after-coronavirus-briefing
*Sen. Kelly Loeffler Dumped Millions in Stock After Coronavirus Briefing
Sen. Kelly Loeffler is the second senator who has gotten rid of their holdings right as the stock market went bad.​


*https://www.news9.com/story/41921174/calls-for-investigation-resignation-mount-after-inhofe-caught-in-potential-insider-trading-scandal
*Calls For Investigation, Resignation Mount After Inhofe Caught In Potential Insider Trading Scandal
Sen. Jim Inhofe (R) faced widespread criticism, including calls for a formal investigation, Friday after federal reporting revealed Oklahoma’s senior senator sold hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of stock in the days after private meetings about COVID-19.​



How much did Don Jr, Eric, Ivanka, Jared and tRump unload prior to the crash?

He said today at the press conference that he's all ready for his hotel bailout. Ready to pay up?
 

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minds_I

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Hello all,

So where are all those anti-socialism voices decrying the us gov bailout? Get your money for nothing and your checks for free...ey?

I just know and believe that those anti=social crusaders will immediately return the checksback to the government right?

minds_I
 

Absolem

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Hello all,

So where are all those anti-socialism voices decrying the us gov bailout? Get your money for nothing and your checks for free...ey?

I just know and believe that those anti=social crusaders will immediately return the checksback to the government right?

minds_I

Ideology meets reality.
 

St. Phatty

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That's surprising.

*https://www.propublica.org/article/senator-dumped-up-to-1-7-million-of-stock-after-reassuring-public-about-coronavirus-preparedness
*Senator Dumped Up to $1.7 Million of Stock After Reassuring Public About Coronavirus Preparedness
Intelligence Chair Richard Burr’s selloff came around the time he was receiving daily briefings on the health threat.​

How much did Don Jr, Eric, Ivanka, Jared and tRump unload prior to the crash?

He said today at the press conference that he's all ready for his hotel bailout. Ready to pay up?

I don't think there was anything unethical in selling stocks because you found out on Jan. 27 about the C-Virus.

It was obviously a bubble - and it's smart to 'take money off the table'.

America completely depends on China for manufacturing. There was a period of about 3 weeks when that was threatened & the market was still in bubble mode.

Anybody who valued their $$ would have pulled $ off the table during those 3 weeks. And sold stocks.
 

Zeez

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Insider trading is legal and normal for congress people. Several times it has been publicized and they fixed it by making it illegal. Usually it is bundled with other bills and quietly made legal again. Frequently congress passes spending bills that make a great deal of money for people and they are in on it.
 
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I don't think there was anything unethical in selling stocks because you found out on Jan. 27 about the C-Virus.

It was obviously a bubble - and it's smart to 'take money off the table'.

America completely depends on China for manufacturing. There was a period of about 3 weeks when that was threatened & the market was still in bubble mode.

Anybody who valued their $$ would have pulled $ off the table during those 3 weeks. And sold stocks.

It's not that they knew of the virus, everyone knew of the virus.... it's that they knew that the sh*t was going to hit the fan while half the public was being fed horse sh*t that this will be no big deal from FOX news and Drumpf.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuA1EyAR9E4
 

GOT_BUD?

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I don't think there was anything unethical in selling stocks because you found out on Jan. 27 about the C-Virus.

It was obviously a bubble - and it's smart to 'take money off the table'.

America completely depends on China for manufacturing. There was a period of about 3 weeks when that was threatened & the market was still in bubble mode.

Anybody who valued their $$ would have pulled $ off the table during those 3 weeks. And sold stocks.

You want to watch the state of the economy? Keep an eye on truck manufacturing.

Mid last year Volvo cut production 30% because they already were starting to see the cracks in the economy, and knew we were headed into a downturn.

They did the exact same thing in 2007, 8 months before the 2008 financial crisis.

Go back through time, and it's easy to see that the heavy truck manufacturers are the ones to watch for any kind of economic indicator.

The virus turned what was going to be a downturn into a crash. With the US's response, it turned a crash into a Black Swan event.

Donald Trump is our very own Julius Caesar. The question is, will the senate stab him in the back to save the country? Magic 8 Ball says "Positive outcome unlikely".
 

Dr. Purpur

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tRump clearly made this virus, then blamed the poor Chinese for it. I sure wish we had a Chinese style government. It is so much better then ours.
 

Midnight Tokar

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tRump clearly made this virus, then blamed the poor Chinese for it. I sure wish we had a Chinese style government. It is so much better then ours.


You keep telling anyone who will listen that your father is a genius and a scientist. Have you ever had a DNA test done to determine if he really is your father?
 

Microbeman

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Hello All, I have been very busy lately with lots of things including how to navigate this shelter in place situation as far as work goes. But, I wanted to address this 'scientific' article and the research it was based on. It is a quintessential piece of blatently pseudoscientific propaganda. I plan on doing a little bit of a deeper dive into it and possibly other examples of political pseudoscientific propaganda when I have more time. But in the meantime, you can all click the link above and read it for yourselves and see if you can identify the problems I see with it.
Hint: Focus on the methodology used to ARRIVE AT THEIR 'scientific'(?) CONCLUSION and their field of expertise.

Hempy; I'm not clear if you are referring to the article about the article or the article itself; https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9 I am waiting with anticipation your critique of the methods employed.

In the interim can you identify the holes in this study? >
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8821010&postcount=24246
 

Microbeman

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You want to watch the state of the economy? Keep an eye on truck manufacturing.

Mid last year Volvo cut production 30% because they already were starting to see the cracks in the economy, and knew we were headed into a downturn.

They did the exact same thing in 2007, 8 months before the 2008 financial crisis.

Go back through time, and it's easy to see that the heavy truck manufacturers are the ones to watch for any kind of economic indicator.

The virus turned what was going to be a downturn into a crash. With the US's response, it turned a crash into a Black Swan event.

Donald Trump is our very own Julius Caesar. The question is, will the senate stab him in the back to save the country? Magic 8 Ball says "Positive outcome unlikely".

Maybe more like Nero Caesar?
 

Hempy McNoodle

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Hempy; I'm not clear if you are referring to the article about the article or the article itself; https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0820-9 I am waiting with anticipation your critique of the methods employed.

In the interim can you identify the holes in this study? >
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8821010&postcount=24246

The article is just an article. I always think it's more about going straight to the source. So, I'm mostly talking about the study itself, published in Nature. Thanks for posting the link.
 
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