I read so much controversial posts in your thread it is painful to read. It really makes eyeachecharlie garcia
Most columbians need above 14 weeks up to 24 weeks. Also you can find lots of hermis in columbians, need some luck with lots and patiente for sure. Names you mentioned are not used there and wont help you. Look for rojas (reds), moño or punto, or doradas de sta marta (golden from sta marta) or moradas (purple) from corinto or mangobiches, etc, they know these names not others
well sadly talking about 80's, best columbians of north most were erradicated by DEA with Glifosato. Such poison is been still used recently for coca fields causing so much damage around to whole nature enviorement. There some local colmbian studies about this. Early 2000 read same things were still happening in Equator. Rivers, food, plants, humans, babies with malformations. Thats the result of a crazy drugs "imported" policy.
Funny is there was a moment where marihuana was about to be fully legal in Colombia. Right now again opposite, they want to make it fully illegal again, law still allows small amounts of drugs (theorically).
Golds of north colombia influenced north america but reds were the ones which influenced southamerica and best known and grown here as well. We have always had a different perception of columbian weeds.
from what I know of, much there can have sedative effects indeed, much mellow, guess is what in northam. call columbian red, but some of finest is always been the same, a very well known colombia sativa, Punto Rojo and some are well known and remembered for being electric long sativas not sedative at all but presently both types coexist. Well known in Spain and southamerica as the classic colombian. Sometimes hairs show pink colours, sometimes not, and when mature they look red, some plants can be purple as well, depends.
Soo let's not give wrong information, let's state what's opinion and how this opinion was formed .
Kaiki is a Latin his opinion is on ground not a few imports he luckily scored as a foreigner . Sams is a triple OG , he was around smoking in the 60's and living in a Hot spot where much of the best was imported
@RacoKaiki is a Latin his opinion is on ground not a few imports he luckily scored as a foreigner .
Cultural shock. The treatment of breeders like if they would be football players or rockstarswhat tickled you all of a sudden?
Southern Cone, homeland of paraguayan sativa landrace, extinct as well. I grow on the same Parana basinBTW Where are you from I forget?
Damnnn Brother better to meet me at the Cafe , what a long post . Seems this has been on your mind for some timeBigherb, thax for coming and taking your time to come here to post
I am interested in canna anthropology.
I understand you are a judge in canna competitions in Usa, so you are probably a reference for american culture, for sure you know a lot more than me about it, I have no clue. The judging criteria used I dont know, it is something very interesting
Hopefully we can exchange opinions and both learn things without fueling emotions
Cultural shock. The treatment of breeders like if they would be football players or rockstars
The placement of people as reference of something they never smoke is very hard to understand, I dont find any logic behind it
The placement of people up on pedestals, it doesnt matter if deserved or not, it is really striking and shocking. It is not only you, it seems it is part of Usa culture. Is this correct?
People come and go, what remains is the weed.
We smoke weed, we are not smoking the breeders ego. All western weed seems to come with breeders ego attached to it, it is really annoying. I think is one of the reasons for sativa degradation
For me the only one that should be on a pedestal and revered is ganja and it should be treated as sacrament. On pedestal we have preglyphosate Punto Rojo 80s at this part of the world.
This strain is the only thing we saw as colombian weed
Southern Cone, homeland of paraguayan sativa landrace, extinct as well. I grow on the same Parana basin
Southern Cone - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
This has been the largest sativa market in the world until recently, up to 12 years ago there were only sativas here. DEA set up base in the region and things went dowhill very fast
We have very different cannacultures.
I would have questions and comments but I am not interested in controversy. I am interested in exchanging opinions and knowledge
The problem is when subjects are controversial, questions and comments about it might be as well
Hopefully we can leave fanatism for religion or football games
If I post in your thread, there are too many commercial interests there and things get tergiversated very fast
Are you aware of this?
The price for me is so psychedellic it makes me see elephants on the door, basically we are talking here from 1u$s a bract to more than 1u$s gram finnished product from seed
Any other comment I might make about this might be considered controversial and honestly it is not my intention, the price simply amazes me too much. I bought my Seedsman Haze pack in 20 euros 5 years ago
How come a repro is worth 10 times more? What is the logic behind it?
How come a repro in the western cannaworld is a lot more expensive than the originals?
Can somebody explain the logic of this please?
I find this one very interesting. I still have seed of this, I didnt know I have so much money in my fridge
We were commenting in the THH thread with MadMac and Johnny Chicago that this is not a good cross
Legends met ... The best Haze 19 girls got pollinated by my select Original-Haze male with resin on stem and flowers... excellent cross that has it all Genetics: Haze 19 (Positronic) x Original-Haze Type: Regular cannabis seed Indoor / Outdoor Flower
Positronics Haze 19 x Original Hazeoriginal-haze.com
My experience with Seedsman haze line and thinking is very similar to what Maha Kala is posting in your thread last couple of pages.
I must say that what Maha Kala grew is the repro and work of a local southern cone grower coming from just one pack. Maybe more numbers to start with are needed in order to find better phenos
Yes, I had intersex males in the Seedsman haze in cluding in the original pack, a lot of hay, and 5% interesting plants.
I have grown different releases from the Hortapharm CEO I succeeded to source.
I dont think it must be mixed the respect I might have for the Ceo as for any other person with my judgement of what I think of the weed commercially sourced coming from him or from any other respectable person
I am very impressed about germination rates. I have one or 2 strains I didnt grow yet like Afghan Skunk but I am not interested in it. This year I grew 2 different strains from SamS: G13 x Skunk Seedsman Skunkman Range and Ohz x Skunk Cultivators Choice
The biggest Ohz x Skunk plant was over 2,5 meter tall
Productivity of that one was total 22 dried grams
As an F1 sativa it is a disaster. The current state of haze is too inbred. I dont doubt the F1 in the 60s was excellent. 55 years later things are different
i consider this kind of weed and most of western sativas coming from this cannaworld as collector´s weed
It is not commercial at all, it is very inbred with very sad productivity. Pure sativas are not like this. The high is nothing special, it has tolerance like all hybrids
Original Haze today at F15 or F20 is just collectors weed
It is not grown in Colombia by colombians. The ones who should judge if haze has old preglyphosate Punto Rojo are old colombian smokers.
I doubt many people with commercial interests in this would be happy to know their opinions
The most interesting so far from your favourite CEO was Swazi Skunk. Full of intersex but these intersex plants had character. had an interesting different high. I would love to try again if I find pure swazi
Haze high has nothing in common with preglyphosate Punto Rojo 80s.
In the quoted post from Charlie Garcia he comments about a Usa strain called colombian red.
Usa growers commented about that colombian red and report it is kind of dreamy narcotic.
I think the names of Punto Rojo and colombian red confuse a lot and in any case if there is something of this in haze, it is the colombian red one. No way there is Punto Rojo in haze
Another interesting thing to comment is about the concept of latinity
Spaniards in South America are europeans. They live in a different continent, they have a different culture and cannaculture. They mix weed with tobacco. Here it is sacrilege to do that
Spaniards have different foods and different tastes than southamericans. And there is a very wide variety inside latin america. Spanish is spoken in many different countries, and all these countries have modisms and local dialects. In the same country you are able to find different tonalities and different vocabulary used according to region
Europeans can never be a reference for southamerican weed, it doesnt matter if the europeans come from countries deemed as latin, they dont know the southamerican weed, they didnt grow up with it. The enthusiasts like Charlie Garcia heard stories, they all arrived 20 years after the glyphosate attacks.
who do you refer to I put on a pedestal ?
It seems you are putting human beings on a pedestal. Looks like Charlie Garcia and Dubi are on your pedestalIf you're trying to shit on charlie garcia , kick rocks . He's on a pedestal and your trying to tread water
I am expecting these answers from you too. I started smoking in the 80s. The age at this time of life doesnt really matter if you are a couple years older or younger. What matters is your experience. I should be a few years older than Tom Hill if it helps youSECOND
How old are you and what year did you start smoking ?
I respect the people who smoked the real thing. Look at your thread.In short seems you only seek and respect or believe , colombians who are in these 70's in regards to true authentic experiences
Basically putting in the same bag Spaniards, Mexicans and South Americans is not much different than putting americans, british, southafricans, zimbabwe and Australia all in the same bagBrother I'm not an educated man , but a quick goggle search shows spainards are latin quick end of discussionis origin of language.
Me neither. But what you say hereI'm not into any history type debates
This claim dont match the historial documents posted here, check the thread history of colombian weed where there is an essay by a colombian historian sponsored by New York University. It doesnt match with what is taught in the colombian history booksthere was a surfer boy named G in Santa Cruz who crossed his Punto Rojo seeds in 1969
Do you understand world markets are different than Usa? Specially in the 20th century before internetHave you experienced imported cannabis ?
I assume by the questions you ask the answer must be affirmative in your case and all you asmoked is coming from your gardenIs All you've smoked your whole life is Grown from your garden ?
Google search brought me to this pageI forget the exact source
The colombians I grew from TLT are garbage, hemp.(TLT seed / BSC , what's your thoughts on there authenticity ?
I think we have similar thoughts )
It is always interesting the vision of an outsider of your own culture. An outsider can point out things that are under your nose and you have never realised beforeAs far as fantasy , not me ... Interesting vision on north Americans . I'm not into teleNovelas. G the surfer boy was real the 3 brothers I had contact with soo I hope you don't imply my story of truth as fantasy
I tried the same down here as well. I talked with the pioneers of lat 42SI've tried to make contact with older folk who have experience from 60's /70's no success yet but I'm still here for a few days
Thank you for coming and postingYou can find till today many annamed Thai strains!
Their malawi fem is an indica frame with sativa high. I prefered it over the others that are sativas frame with indica high or the sativas CBDWhat Ace seeds sells as a pure Sativa is rarely the case! Their Malawi is a good case in point! Only someone with no knowledge of pure Sativa would consider it to be so ...
Damn brotherFyi @bigherb
What Ace seeds sells as a pure Sativa is rarely the case! Their Malawi is a good case in point! Only someone with no knowledge of pure Sativa would consider it to be so ...
They also don't provide accurate strain lineages and fail to give credit to the original source of the lines they vend.
Only smoking since '98 and considering yourself OG is good to know so we can all put your posts in the correct perspective now.
Velvet Buzzsaw, from Doc D...Nice thread as always @funkyhorse !
I have a few thai/haze hybrids just starting outdoors in the greenhouse for the winter season.
Always wondered what is the best strain or plant you've come across in recent times? The one that best reminds you of that Paraguayan or Thai stick of yore?
Also about the tropical vs. equatorial sativa debate... The tropical ones would be the more longer flowering? The more classical/archetypal "sativa" expressions?