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TGA Genetics- Concerning Potency...

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smokeyla1

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iam_2high

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smokeyla1 said:
The man did prove either you didn't fully grow them out or straight up lied about it altogether. I honestly thought he was jumping to that conclusion but that response does not look good.

Anyway, what's the story behind franchise? Wasn't obsolEEt or whatever his name is behind alien genetics? Why the name change?
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Nah no lies hes thrown off by my first comments about 2 weeks in no smell,which were just fishing comments...it's all good,its the internet plenty of things don't look good.:watchplant:I don't know nothin about any of these guys besides what I've read online and seen on youtube/instagram...:tiphat:
 
Bongstar420

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This is what annoys me about people complaining my stuff ain't got enough "flavor." Your not going to get amazing flavor and high at the same time. The oils that get you blasted aren't very flavorful- I throw anything out that isn't strong in psychotropic effect because I don't like smoking.........yes, I have had multiple occasions of people falling over after a few hits of mild flavored stuff that I pump.

I've got Pennywise in the works (the pheno's like bubblegum, but not quite). I bet it will turn out plenty psychotropic despite it being a medical strain in a medical grow (another thing that is annoying is confusion medicinal nature with psychotropic nature). A real medicinal strain should have little to no psychotropic effect.
 
hoss1111

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Buddy gave me a pack of Chernobyl 8 seeds I think. He said it was meh ... Boring to him although he did confirm the lime smell. I'm actually excited to grow something good tasting and low potency as maybe I can smoke a whole joint to myself. :)

Also ordered 15 agent orange seeds too. Should get around to growning them this summer or fall.

I do have a 5 pack of pennywise too hope to hear how you make out with yours.
 
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PWF

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this is just not true.
maybe for you i guess.
Bongstar420 said:
This is what annoys me about people complaining my stuff ain't got enough "flavor." Your not going to get amazing flavor and high at the same time. The oils that get you blasted aren't very flavorful- .
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Bongstar420

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Generally speaking that is....many terpenes are CB1 antagonists or competitive CB1 agonists which do not produce a high and displace THC.

I get blasted off of Cannatonic 8%THC 11%CBD...It has some oil in it. Flavor is better than average..

PWF said:
this is just not true.
maybe for you i guess.
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So, where is your example? I'd like to see a reference..

I tried Pennywise...Just as much a buzz as the Cannatonic

Finally, terpene metabolism frequently cuts into cannabinoid metabolism...Otherwise, where are the 25%THC plants with +5% EO?
 
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Bongstar420

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I am talking a frequency distribution...The taste factor is difficult to lock down with a great high due to the overlapping biochemical demands.

And btw...potency means what again?

It seems you are using it to refer to how high you get and not what you are getting high from. In that case, anyone could dope the stuff with all kinds of things and make it "potent."

I am willing to bet what you call potent isn't actually mediated by D-9 THC. There are trace cannabinoids which are 10x stronger in effect and those do not take "more energy" to make and do not require high levels of D-9 THC over all.

and, I have only grown two official TGA plants- 'Pennywise' which are potent for CBD plants. 'Pennywise' Green came in with 22% cannabinoids and 6.5% terpene content.

Finally, most cannabis is not intensely flavorful or "potent" in any context.

Brelva said:
Have you seriously never had a great tasting strain with a great high? I find that hard to believe....
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Brelva

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This false dichotomy of quality of flavor being at odds with quality of high just doesn't click with reality. You can point at numbers until you're blue in the face but at the end of the day you're still trying to make the claim that the better your weed tastes, the worse the high is. Anyone can tell you that the opposite is almost always true, based on actual experience, not numbers. Terpenes modulate and enhance the high, they are just as important as cannabinoids in a lot of ways.
 
Bongstar420

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again...100's of samples from dozens of different growers..95% did not have "spectacular" flavor or high. I've also grown a dozen different official breeders seed from Gypsy.

If flavor and high were not "dichotomous" then it would be the norm rather than the exception like it is now (that means most cannabis would taste fabulous and have a spectacular high- reality is opposite)..if it were not the exception, where on Earth are you. I live in Oregon, the land of the cheapest chronic on the planet, and highly flavorful stuff is rare. In fact,l the most notable example of what you people are talking about that I could remember would be this Jack Herer stuff everyone was raving about a couple years ago..Ya, it wasn't special. It tasted like soap and wasn't particularly stronger in flavor or high than any other high THC cut with decent. Their opinions were the opposite- spectacular flavor and high.

Sometimes, other people put my own stuff in front of me with out telling me and it tastes way better than when I knowingly pull it out of my own stash.


Brelva said:
This false dichotomy of quality of flavor being at odds with quality of high just doesn't click with reality. You can point at numbers until you're blue in the face but at the end of the day you're still trying to make the claim that the better your weed tastes, the worse the high is. Anyone can tell you that the opposite is almost always true, based on actual experience, not numbers. Terpenes modulate and enhance the high, they are just as important as cannabinoids in a lot of ways.
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StankyBeamer

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This is a dumb argument. Gg#4, end of story. Up to 32% cannabinoids and 10% terpenoids with flavors of chocolate, skunk, chem, and coffee. Flavor vs high is a moot point
 
symbiote420

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My bro picked up some Ripped Bubba and 9lb Hammer from a local dispo, shit was fuego.... I even sent him back to get me a couple grams of each! Hard to find a Bubba cross that doesn't have decent potency though and for as tasty and nice the stone was on the Hammer it had some seeds in it.
 
Bongstar420

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StankyBeamer said:
This is a dumb argument. Gg#4, end of story. Up to 32% cannabinoids and 10% terpenoids with flavors of chocolate, skunk, chem, and coffee. Flavor vs high is a moot point
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Still waiting for a legal lab to put out straight numbers like that.

I live in Oregon..even in Eugene where they confuse THCA with THC, they do not have 32% actual THC...in any case, you have named a single specimen out of millions.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=265926&page=136

Notice in the thread they refer to 33% as if its THC when it is in fact THCA. That is actually 29%THC. Look at my report...27.5%THCA but its actually 24.3%THC.

Oh, btw, I will crop this plant out and get +1%CBG, +6% terpenes, and +25%THC this time...all higher than the last report; harvest is in May. I will post results somewhere- most probably in my skills of the grower Cannatonic thread

BRAVO

symbiote420 said:
My bro picked up some Ripped Bubba and 9lb Hammer from a local dispo, shit was fuego.... I even sent him back to get me a couple grams of each! Hard to find a Bubba cross that doesn't have decent potency though and for as tasty and nice the stone was on the Hammer it had some seeds in it.
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Do either of these specimens yield over 300g/m^2 and always bring in a price which is higher than everything else?


Finally, like I had mentioned earlier, the word "potency" is not being used uniformly by people. Most of the "potency" is probably subjective or the result of some cannabinoid analog(s) or unidentified terpene.

I have a volunteer ('Sergeant Pepper')from botched TGA seed which is only 22.9% THC but last twice as long as my 24.5% THC gage green stuff. Both can cause people to fall over.

My beef with TGA is he didn't breed the herm out of the Pennywise well. It is "potent" with 8% THC giving the buzz of a 15% variety it is not that potent in that its total cannabinoid level didn't exceed 20% this batch.
 

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Grif

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So, any ideas as to why TGA removed Quantum Kush, their highest testing strain (so far as I know) from their web site?
 
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Brelva

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A couple of TGA's breeders/growers parted ways with TGA and are now doin their own thing under the name Homegrown Natural Wonders. Some of the TGA strains (like Quantum Kush) were their work.
 
mingmen

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Brelva said:
This false dichotomy of quality of flavor being at odds with quality of high just doesn't click with reality. You can point at numbers until you're blue in the face but at the end of the day you're still trying to make the claim that the better your weed tastes, the worse the high is. Anyone can tell you that the opposite is almost always true, based on actual experience, not numbers. Terpenes modulate and enhance the high, they are just as important as cannabinoids in a lot of ways.
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great weed has both
 
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