TGA Genetics- Concerning Potency...

[MJtheIndicator]

Cleaner is crucial in the big picture, they have brought fire to the table more than once. I like that they lean to the Herer how they do, but I can also see alot of people being over it.

 

[Tipz]

Double purple doja, was never that potent, and he used it in every cross. Dumbing down
Might be a good way to explain the potency difficulties.

 

[Midnight Tokar]

Double purple doja, was never that potent, and he used it in every cross. Dumbing down
Might be a good way to explain the potency difficulties.

If you look at Sub's current strain list you'll see that [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Double purple doja[/FONT]
is not part of the breeding in any of them. However if you look at the map of what was crossed to get it and what has been bred using it as a parent you'll see that many, many breeders don't share your opinion. Multitudes of strains have been created using it and most everyone will recognize quite a few that are considered fire!

 

[Tipz]

If you look at Sub's current strain list you'll see that [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Double purple doja[/FONT]
is not part of the breeding in any of them. However if you look at the map of what was crossed to get it and what has been bred using it as a parent you'll see that many, many breeders don't share your opinion. Multitudes of strains have been created using it and most everyone will recognize quite a few that are considered fire!

I happen to have been there, maybe you were celebrating your 10th birthday. He won dpd at auction at CWorld and given the purple craze at the time, he immediately used it in everything he had. At the time anything with blueberry in it reduced potency overall potency.
Basically he used brothers Grimm strains and dumbed them down with blueberry, then started crossing them together. Pretty yes, potent


funny. try personal experience rather than repeating some crap u read.

 

[StankyBeamer]

I've seen buds from sub that weren't terrible, but you all have to agree that the fact that he cranks out so many strains so quickly, he can't possibly put forth the effort into each one the way some breeders do, like BOG with his like ten different lines. Too many genetic scrambles seems sloppy and all the hermies and bland highs prove it. I have a small grow, and barely any experience, and even I know better than to just make a ton of untested f1s with whatever sounds good

 

[Homebrewer]

I've seen buds from sub that weren't terrible, but you all have to agree that the fact that he cranks out so many strains so quickly, he can't possibly put forth the effort into each one the way some breeders do, like BOG with his like ten different lines. Too many genetic scrambles seems sloppy and all the hermies and bland highs prove it. I have a small grow, and barely any experience, and even I know better than to just make a ton of untested f1s with whatever sounds good

FWIW, he claims there are folks who 'test' his pollen-chucks before he releases them. That's about all you can ask given his method.

 

[StankyBeamer]

I heard he tested three ace of spades females, one went all shemale, bam, released for sale, with a 33% failure rate on the testers

 

[iam_2high]

While some good and honest folks have had legitimate unhappy experiences with some TGA strains, you are not one of them. Lets examine your pack of absolute bs nonsense.
On 10-12-2014, you posted how your 9lb Hammer at 2 weeks "had no smell".
On 11-28-2014, you posted how TGA strains were for " high schoolers and ladyboys"
So.... you were able to fully grow out the 9lb Hammer, dry it properly and give it a decent minimal cure for a legitimate smoke report, all in 8 1/2 weeks ???? Mathematically impossible, you are an absolute poser.
17 of your first 25 posts were to post ripping on TGA in this thread. But you never grew anything. The entire reason for you joining was to falsely rip on TGA while promoting Franchise genetics Alien Legend . All your posts center around this, you are a 100% fake.
Your little photo of two nuggets of alleged 9lb hammer next to 2 nuggets of "alien legend" was hilarious, you used 2 larger nuggets of Alien next to 2 smaller nuggets of 9lb - very childish attempt to show "how Alien Legend greatly outproduced 9lb..." Ironically, all 4 nuggets looked like we would all twist them up.
If you had any pride or your Franchise genetics were any good, then you could have let them stand on their own merit. But instead you choose a very dishonest route to pimp your Franchise Genetics.
The good folks here deserve better than fake posers like you.

That was nice detective...see these hammers were from clone,my veg time was short,and with or without a full cure,you know good smoke in a matter of say 7 days cured...the alien legend is just what I had next to it,they were the only two picks of the run...I've had forum cookies,afghani,larry,tahoe,purps,tangie,rainbow sherbert,lost coast og, all types of things...the hammer was the wackest and I'm stickin to my shits boy.wackest bud I ever grew.I cant take the blame,maybe I should blame the place I got it from,but nah...and yes major props to the breeder of alien legend,the man puts out the goods from what I've seen with my own eyes,plus on the 'gram as they call it...tga had a cute lil booth at the cup too,passed that bitch right up lmaooo

 

[Corpsey]

I like that people can be honest on this site, and i do enjoy others perspective.

But most of the time (like now) when I'm reading this thread im high high on some agent orange, so its so bizarre to be so fucked up and read about how tga doesn't have potency.

I get not every strain of his is good, or any good at all. Doesn't mean they all have no potency (which is the topic of this thread).
and don't get it twisted, I'm no fan boy, I think sub is pretty retarded.

 

[FlaDankster]

Maybe it isn't his gear but the smokers tolerance.

Can't deny the dude makes so gooood flavors.

 

[iam_2high]

Maybe it isn't his gear but the smokers tolerance.

Can't deny the dude makes so gooood flavors.

right about that man...thats why I said its gotta be for high schoolers...I been smokin bud for 20 years man

 

[Corpsey]

Maybe it isn't his gear but the smokers tolerance.

Can't deny the dude makes so gooood flavors.

i know its not my tolerance, im a almost daily hash smoker for a couple of years and i can still get fucked up from just an agent orange joint.

 

[redlaser]

Wouldnt call sub Gods gift to breeding, but it's easy to bitch about those that aren't working with land races, inbred lines, and large populations of plants to select from. I've found cheesequakes and JTR's that I like enough to keep until something better replaces them. Took a 14 month old outdoor JTR sample to Steep Hill labs and it tested at 7.9% THC and 29%THCA on a liquid chromatography model. On a gas chromotagraphy model it tested at 21.7 THC.

 

[FlaDankster]

right about that man...thats why I said its gotta be for high schoolers...I been smokin bud for 20 years man

But thats what i'm gettin at.....i been smokin longer than you....but that has nothing to do with ones tolerance.One shouldn't really blame the smoke if it is their system that requires more/stronger to get a good buzz.I can't really say to much as my tolerance is UUUUUUUpp der.My own fault....i choose to smoke as much as i do.But i also understand that if i was to take a break.......subs gear would serve its purpose.

i know its not my tolerance, im a almost daily hash smoker for a couple of years and i can still get fucked up from just an agent orange joint.

I smoked AO for 3 yrs solid....with some thing different here and there.Have to agree with you that the AO can pack a punch with the right pheno.

 

[Miraculous Meds]

Wouldnt call sub Gods gift to breeding, but it's easy to bitch about those that aren't working with land races, inbred lines, and large populations of plants to select from. I've found cheesequakes and JTR's that I like enough to keep until something better replaces them. Took a 14 month old outdoor JTR sample to Steep Hill labs and it tested at 7.9% THC and 29%THCA on a liquid chromatography model. On a gas chromotagraphy model it tested at 21.7 THC.

So what conclusions do u draw from the tests?

 

[iam_2high]

But thats what i'm gettin at.....i been smokin longer than you....but that has nothing to do with ones tolerance.One shouldn't really blame the smoke if it is their system that requires more/stronger to get a good buzz.I can't really say to much as my tolerance is UUUUUUUpp der.My own fault....i choose to smoke as much as i do.But i also understand that if i was to take a break.......subs gear would serve its purpose.




I smoked AO for 3 yrs solid....with some thing different here and there.Have to agree with you that the AO can pack a punch with the right pheno.

It's all good,I just thought I had some dank with choosing that hammer.it just wasn't,and neither was chernobyl.and ao is on sale 5gs for 30 down the way from here...so,cheers to the guys who found better,2 cheers for the ones with the time to look.

 

[redlaser]

So what conclusions do u draw from the tests?

The test is really just a reference point by itself. Others have had TGA gear tested with varying results.

 

[Ready4]

That was nice detective...see these hammers were from clone,my veg time was short,and with or without a full cure,you know good smoke in a matter of say 7 days cured...the alien legend is just what I had next to it,they were the only two picks of the run...I've had forum cookies,afghani,larry,tahoe,purps,tangie,rainbow sherbert,lost coast og, all types of things...the hammer was the wackest and I'm stickin to my shits boy.wackest bud I ever grew.I cant take the blame,maybe I should blame the place I got it from,but nah...and yes major props to the breeder of alien legend,the man puts out the goods from what I've seen with my own eyes,plus on the 'gram as they call it...tga had a cute lil booth at the cup too,passed that bitch right up lmaooo

Nice try but you have failed once again. Laughable once again.
Lets do the math once again....
"these hammers were from clone" - yes, so what ? You stated at "at two weeks your plant ( now plants) had no smell" - two weeks flowering was assumed to be your intent obviously- 6 1/2 weeks later came the " TGA is for H.S. and ladyboys" comment.
That adds up to 8 1/2 weeks in which you allege you completed total flowering, drying and curing. Then you stated an alleged "one week cure" 8 1/2 weeks minus 1 week cure = 7 1/2 weeks total
7 1/2 weeks minus 3 days to 1 week minimal drying time puts your actual maximum flowering time, per your posts, at a range between
6 1/2 -7 weeks. Which we can all see makes your story fictional manure. A sample bud picked 2 -2 1/2 + weeks early.......
Your story is simply not legit at all.
All your post immediately centered on ripping TGA while pimping your Franchise seeds or doing actual pimping of your Franchise seeds in other posts.
So..... even if you had done your fake posing with an actual legitimate possible time frame, you based all comments on your 9 lb hammer clone, which there was no way of actually knowing if it was 9lb hammer if you did not run it yourself from seed. Then , based on one pheno of 9lb hammer, you claimed ALL TGA strains were for
"high schoolers and ladyboys"
The good cool folks here deserve better than your manure.

 

[Heusinomics]

Wouldnt call sub Gods gift to breeding, but it's easy to bitch about those that aren't working with land races, inbred lines, and large populations of plants to select from. I've found cheesequakes and JTR's that I like enough to keep until something better replaces them..

^ this is my only gripe too^
It would b nice to better understand his opperation and standards of breeding.

As a fellow weed nerd I hav been following subs posts and vids for some time now. I do respect him and the beautiful ms Jill a great deal!!
They are clearly committed and passionate about cannabis AND the community that grows and loves it. They are clearly good helpful caring people!
It does seem clear from his YouTube ch.that he does use very small pollinations and testing of new x's 10seeds at a time in his home breeding spaces. Allowing his farm hand"herbMan" to do most of the gardening that takes place in his home.
It is not clear how much outsourcing is done in the industry but is seems much of his beans are outsourced by one of his 11 breeding assistants and passed to the 19 distributers. Wo sub even stepping foot on the grow?... It would b nice to kno if Odie Diesel, MadScy and apparently many others in the TGA team do the work wile Subbie acts in front if the cam.

-hey HerbMan u on ic?..
You could clear up a lot of the confusion around subbies tek.
I really do like TGA gear and the emphasis that Sub has put on ORGANICS and using SuperSoil for incredable flavored herb.
His dirt works great! And so hav the nuggets Iv tried!

Hers afew shots of some stellar Chernobyl I aquired as a clone in co.
It's not the biggest yealder, but it's CRAZY FROSTY and totally reaks of Zesty Lemon Pine floor cleaner! Finishes in 8weeks easy.
It's clearly a great representation of a modern short flower haze!
Simply delicious!

 

[iam_2high]

Nice try but you have failed once again. Laughable once again.
Lets do the math once again....
"these hammers were from clone" - yes, so what ? You stated at "at two weeks your plant ( now plants) had no smell" - two weeks flowering was assumed to be your intent obviously- 6 1/2 weeks later came the " TGA is for H.S. and ladyboys" comment.
That adds up to 8 1/2 weeks in which you allege you completed total flowering, drying and curing. Then you stated an alleged "one week cure" 8 1/2 weeks minus 1 week cure = 7 1/2 weeks total
7 1/2 weeks minus 3 days to 1 week minimal drying time puts your actual maximum flowering time, per your posts, at a range between
6 1/2 -7 weeks. Which we can all see makes your story fictional manure. A sample bud picked 2 -2 1/2 + weeks early.......
Your story is simply not legit at all.
All your post immediately centered on ripping TGA while pimping your Franchise seeds or doing actual pimping of your Franchise seeds in other posts.
So..... even if you had done your fake posing with an actual legitimate possible time frame, you based all comments on your 9 lb hammer clone, which there was no way of actually knowing if it was 9lb hammer if you did not run it yourself from seed. Then , based on one pheno of 9lb hammer, you claimed ALL TGA strains were for
"high schoolers and ladyboys"
The good cool folks here deserve better than your manure.

lol bro we moved on