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Teaming with Microbes: The Organic Gardener's Guide to the Soil Food Web

mad librettist

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I'm on part two, instructions for surveying the inhabitants.

Can't wait to make that Italian guy funnel contraption.

An I want a macroscope!
 

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im waiting on my copy of the new addition to arrive - should be any day now.

you can never have too many books about gardening (although my misses would disagree with me on that) :D
 
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vonforne

I re-read the compost tea section last night and took some notes in other parts of the book.

I am still reading the first edition. I have to order it. If I order the UK version I would not understand the translation. LOL J\K

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Zendo

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I too just finished chapter 1. I did learn a few things, and didn't find any of it too 'dry'.

I plan to see how much of this book I can eat this afternoon..
 
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Rysam

I just finished ch2. Awesome book. It just so happens that the book is corresponding nicely with a couple classes I have going on so everything for me makes nearly total sense.
Except one thing, the rototilling part. It's been the way to mix amendments and such into the soil for my whole life( Im coming from a backyard veggie garden + Ag student history).Even on here it seems to be a part of outdoor life. On several pages it states that tilling is bad? Can anyone better clarify why? I'm just not grasping it. I tell myself lots of reasons why: structure,hyphae, etc.. but it's just not making the connection for me.
 

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von the uk version is the same thing but in the photos all the microbes have crooked teeth.


lol sorry vg

i heard that sales in america had been very slow because everyone was just waiting for the movie to come out :tiphat:

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please accept my apologies for the above comment.

i know that you americans take your microbes very seriously.

- 'cos its the only culture you've got :D

later

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grapeman

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i heard that sales in america had been very slow because everyone was just waiting for the movie to come out :tiphat:

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Nah - we're waiting for the audible edition for our iPhones so we don't have to be bothered to turn the pages.

At least I am.
 

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On several pages it states that tilling is bad? Can anyone better clarify why? I'm just not grasping it. I tell myself lots of reasons why: structure,hyphae, etc.. but it's just not making the connection for me.
first ask your self why are you tilling?? then ask is ther a better way....if your reading the book and truly understand then the answer is yes.
good soil organic matter managment
tilling breaks up soil structure, soil structer is important to soil health..
i just add organic matter to my soil (ewc, compost, green manure, straw, hay ect ect) instead of tilling.
http://www.theurbanfarmer.ca/Not-till%20Vegetable%20Gardening.pdf
http://www.no-dig-vegetablegarden.com/no-till-gardening.html
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/organic_gardening/67835
http://agroforestry.net/pubs/Sheet_Mulching.html
 

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first ask your self why are you tilling?? then ask is ther a better way....if your reading the book and truly understand then the answer is yes.
good soil organic matter managment
tilling breaks up soil structure, soil structer is important to soil health..
i just add organic matter to my soil (ewc, compost, green manure, straw, hay ect ect) instead of tilling.
http://www.theurbanfarmer.ca/Not-till Vegetable Gardening.pdf
http://www.no-dig-vegetablegarden.com/no-till-gardening.html
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/organic_gardening/67835
http://agroforestry.net/pubs/Sheet_Mulching.html

true DM, tilling in finer soils and clay can also create a hard 'pan' under the surface that inhibits drainage - like puddled clay.

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Rysam

Im thinking in relation to my yard here. Its beat to crap, Nor-Cal red dirt. it barely grows grass/weeds in patches.Theres never been anything done to it, if anything I have a hundred years of pine needles ground into it. I want to put up a garden this year and it finally stopped raining enough to do something. Normally I would get some horse, and maybe some steer manure, till it in, wait a month or two and plant. year after year thats how we did it. Im trying to learn a better way of doing it and apply that to all of my gardening endeavors.

I'll read the links above tonight when I have enough time to digest them.
 

mad librettist

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i heard that sales in america had been very slow because everyone was just waiting for the movie to come out :tiphat:

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LMFAO.

Hey von, I'm worse than American. I'm a Canadian who CHOSE to be american.

doh!

Seriously, I love this country. And G.B. too, because they came up with Dr. Who, Peepshow, The Office, etc... ad nauseum. Wonderful shows, and the actors make you feel beautiful.
 

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