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Super silver haze

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
I have my doubts with MrNice, If shanti really does have the original mothers and fathers from GHS then why aren't his F1's coming out exactly like the one's from the fist release? One would think same parents, same kids right?


GHS never had Neville's parent plants Nev made the seed and then sold the seed to GHS while Shanti and Arjan owned GHS.



Then when shanti left sold his share of GHS and started Mr nice Nev gave Shanti his parental library before Nev left Europe for Australia.



If i was going to get haze hybrids i know were i would be looking.
 

St. Phatty

Active member
Can i please have some backround....so i can understand how to make strives to get this back into my life!?


If you're going to be pollinating a NLxHaze female, I suggest trying the cross with Blueberry Headband.

It's not like it's going to explode (except maybe with resin), and as long as it keeps the Hallucinogenic Sativa qualities of the NLxHaze, with the fox tails on your fox tails growth pattern, and 14 week flowering time ... I think you might like it.

Of course NLxHaze makes a good base cross for just about anything.

One other classic to cross it with is Romberry, Romulan x Blueberry.

From Freedom of Seeds.
 

TheDarkStorm

Well-known member
Arjan claimed he hunted down the clones that nevil left with friends an even dropped names ov wer he got them from...he also had the original f1 seed stock that nevil left him...so wat ther claim is is this...that they hav nevils selected super silver haze clone that was selected by nevil himself from loads of skinny cat piss types the line was originally giving out an was left with certain ppl in holland..an they also got nevils selected Neville's haze clone..it is these clones that they claim they are now selling s1 seeds of...both of these clones are supposed to be the exact selected plants nevil won the cups with..wat the truth is only they know..but clones of some of nevils work hav been popping up so its obvious nevils selected clones always been around..although what hempy said is spot on..nevil left all the plants he had left with shanti before going back home.
 

dank.frank

ef.yu.se.ka.e.em
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@HighSteppa - please continue. You're dating the right era. I've never been made 100% privy to the origins of that cut, but there has been speculation, the cut was a selection made by Shanti.

It has also been suggest at times, it's the same cut as Roms cut.

I have never smoked it directly, but I certainly like how it behaved in an outcross.



dank.Frank
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
Arjan claimed he hunted down the clones that nevil left with friends an even dropped names ov wer he got them from...he also had the original f1 seed stock that nevil left him...so wat ther claim is is this...that they hav nevils selected super silver haze clone that was selected by nevil himself from loads of skinny cat piss types the line was originally giving out an was left with certain ppl in holland..an they also got nevils selected Neville's haze clone..it is these clones that they claim they are now selling s1 seeds of...both of these clones are supposed to be the exact selected plants nevil won the cups with..wat the truth is only they know..but clones of some of nevils work hav been popping up so its obvious nevils selected clones always been around..although what hempy said is spot on..nevil left all the plants he had left with shanti before going back home.


GHS ran out of seed Nev had sold them and not until some years later after buying seeds from mr nice and making f2s did they re offer set lines again any one at CW would remember that.

I was only talking to a close friend of Nevs who was with Nev in the Dam today and i was told who had the NLxHZ clone and unless they shared it no others had it.Lots of selected F1 plants are still around yes but a f1 is not a parent plant that went into making a set line.
 

RoyalFlush

DEA Agent
Premium user
420club
GHS ran out of seed Nev had sold them and not until some years later after buying seeds from mr nice and making f2s did they re offer set lines again any one at CW would remember that.

I was only talking to a close friend of Nevs who was with Nev in the Dam today and i was told who had the NLxHZ clone and unless they shared it no others had it.Lots of selected F1 plants are still around yes but a f1 is not a parent plant that went into making a set line.

This still doesn't answer my question on why Shanti's Black Widow, Medicine man, Shark shock; La nina, ect.. don't grow like when they first got released at GHS. It's most likely true about him losing some of his perantal stock, because those well know indica dominate strains are now mostly long flowering sativa dominate crap.
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
This still doesn't answer my question on why Shanti's Black Widow, Medicine man, Shark shock; La nina, ect.. don't grow like when they first got released at GHS. It's most likely true about him losing some of his perantal stock, because those well know indica dominate strains are now mostly long flowering sativa dominate crap.

All the haze hybrids i grew came from Mr nice the SSH F1 i had were huge plants .


50% haze is not going to produce indica plants you mnite be lucky and find a few indica expressive plants i saw 1.
 

TheDarkStorm

Well-known member
Lol ..royal flush..
hempy is actually a friend ov nevils..I think wat he ment was he met a friend of nevils today in the dam....hempy is actually ok...just not that good with text ...like me
 

@hempy

The Haze Whisperer
Lol ..royal flush..
hempy is actually a friend ov nevils..I think wat he ment was he met a friend of nevils today in the dam....hempy is actually ok...just not that good with text ...like me
Hi Storm no i am not in the Dam but the friend of Nevs i chat with was in the Dam with Nev from before the Castle days.
 
E

ESTERCHASER

halfway through the podcast

halfway through the podcast

ABF did the latest 'potcast' w/heavy dayze

The Pot Cast
Episode 40 ft Ghost of Always Be Flowering Genetics

https://soundcloud.com/the_pot_cast/episode-40-ft-ghost-of-always-be-flowering-genetics


signed up to the cloud.....vermont802horticulture..........the podcast sounds great too btw....when skunk monkey owned? gage green back in like 2006-2008...i may be off on those dates..........the prices were ok, i had someone named skunk munkie at RIU back then tell me he ran gage and was in the process of selling it? anyway once he was out of the picture the damn packs went from 60 a piece to 200+ greed like that can suk me off!
 

dank.frank

ef.yu.se.ka.e.em
ICMag Donor
Veteran
That's not greed. Seeds are still too cheap. Even at $2k for a pack of 10 - that is too cheap. Cannabis seeds give you the ability to print money. GOOD genetics, are quite literally, priceless.

I'll never forget, how INSTANTLY excited I became, when I learned I could buy a life change for $150. 20 years ago, I truly expected well bred cannabis seeds to be wildly unavailable and I expected those which were, to be out of reach.

I've never, ever, ever, ever - felt taken advantage of when buying a pack of seeds. I've spent $800 for 10 seeds - and I still feel, as if, I'm the one who got the deal.

I'll never understand why people expect to make (or save) a fortune by growing their own, and yet are against any sort of barrier to entry. It's one thing if that barrier goes to politicians - it's something else entirely, when that price penalty goes to those who built the industry and have a family at home to take care of - WHILE - committing felonies for us to have seeds...

WTF is wrong with people getting their own in this game? Why are we okay with buying stock from Canopy Corp - but not okay, putting dollar bills in our brothers pocket....???

It's fucked - really.

The perspective needs shifted.



dank.Frank
 
E

ESTERCHASER

i meant going from one owner to another and the gear NOT CHANGING to my knowledge..........jacking the price that high at the time seemed insane. I like this dude at abf mindset! I get it frank, i just cant afford to spend what you spent right now......id like to think if i can gain good friends in the industry i wont have to BUY seeds brother!
 

dank.frank

ef.yu.se.ka.e.em
ICMag Donor
Veteran
aka - quit buying corporate weed in all it's forms.

Grow your own. Sprout seed from people YOU KNOW. Create something new buy perpetuating something for 10 years rather than chasing the new fads. That's why SSH is a perfect strain in which to make such a statement.

It's a classic. It still holds it's own. Old, GHS black packs from '97-'99 - you know THE ones. Yep.

That is when it was kill.

Before that, you need that '89-'92 SSSC NL5 x Haze. Only other line that has as many, true timeless keepers that have been integrated into some much of everything...

Except maybe, Chem '91...LOL. :joint:



dank.Frank
 
E

ESTERCHASER

your an encylopedia of cannabis i love it! Ill see what i can do this week in grabbing at least 1-2 packs of ssh....one from mr .nice although here in vermont im unsure where to grab his stuff locally.the id like to try the is it cobalt haze? the one mentioned in the thread earlier by highsteppa! Im in it to win it guys, im so happy im legal now!!!!
I have a cultivar i got from jamaicans i used to pick apples with in the early 90's....id love to see what you could do with some of the seedstock.....
 

highsteppa

Active member
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Let’s not forget sensi’s silver haze. She gets no love, but vintage-era silver is my “if I could only keep one” plant. Incense and pine/floral
 

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