zamalito said:I know what you're talking about. I rolled two joints of sour diesel eaach for a few friends and myself for midnight on new years. We probably smoked an eighth each. I was totally functional and felt as if I took 4-5 hits from a bowl. I did sleep quite well that night though. I don't know about one hit herb where you won't be able to talk properly. It kind of depends on your tolerance and the smoking method but I've never experienced that myself either. What I'm saying is that the herb that is ceilingless is very rarely the herb that is the most potent. Personally I've never hit a ceiling on a good oaxacan or acapulco. The other nice thing about some colombians and some pacific mexicans is that the buzz is so pleasant that its nice to take it up really high. Whereas something like a durban can get quite uncomfortable before you approach the ceiling so its not worth it to try and find the ceiling if it is one. Some pure sativas do have low ceilings. I've grown destroyer seeds that had a terribly low ceiling. In the search for ceilingless herb my advice is to try landrace genetics. Especially when grown outdoors or in a greenhouse. Try "The Haze" from hothouse flowers or Zamal from the gypsy nirvana collection malawi from afropips. Also bsc will have more than a few strains with high or unlimited ceilings when they become available.
Zamalito - coming from you, that is indeed a compliment - thanks.Elevator that is the single most beautiful indoor grown malawi I've ever seen
jojajico said:landrace sativas often will have multiple flowering windows. you shouldnt let them become overripe just check the trichs.
ngakpa said:I've seen guys on here harvesting Malawi Gold the first time the trichs went cloudy - then complaining that it was rubbish
using trichs is merely one way of judging whether herb is ready or not ... it still requires that you get to know a strain and find out when the best time to harvest that strain is i.e. it's not a question of when you should and shouldn't harvest - it's a question of harvesting at the correct time for the effect you are seeking
there are a plethora of different ways of growing, and IMHO in the millenia old history of growing the relatively recent arrival of people growing indicas indoors has skewed things a bit - e.g. look at places like Reunion etc. where people might sometimes leave sativa bud on the plant long after the plant appears to be dead, in order to produce powerfully mind-altering smoke
with classy equatorial sativas it really does pay to prolong what some people see as the "final phases of flowering", since that is where the interesting stuff starts to happen ... the buds "communicate" in plenty of other ways than just trichome colour ... e.g. other visual signals and most importanty, smell
btw I hate to be a pedant, but the spelling is "masturbator"
jojajico said:landrace sativas often will have multiple flowering windows. and alot of things that apply to indicas an hybrids do not apply to pure sativas. you shouldnt let them become overripe just check the trichs. often times if its a landrace your going to have to do a little experimentation if it hasnt been worked with.
as you should lolIwannagethighOG said:I think I fear the strongest Sativa!