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STRONGEST SATIVA

ngakpa

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I'm sure there a tons of issues around how one interprets potency, however on the sativa front I take it to mean herb capable of inducing "shock and awe"

call it what you will - a massive "ontic buzz" - "epistemological upheavel" - -- "profane illumination" ... something along those lines....

there are countless factors involved in producing that kind of experience, but for me Thai sativas have thus far been the most consistent for producing such states ... also whatever some of those other sativas were I was smoking when I was a teenager ... I suspect they may well have been these African strains I see referred to

indoor Malawi hybrids tried here are also pretty trippy - but they are kinder, warmer and more ellegant than the Thai high, which can be fearsome in the extreme ... no doubt there is an element of subjectivity, but I don't agree with the assesment that sativa highs are all in the head ... Thai and Carribean sativas can produce massive rushes of an overwhelming kind
 
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zamalito said:
I know what you're talking about. I rolled two joints of sour diesel eaach for a few friends and myself for midnight on new years. We probably smoked an eighth each. I was totally functional and felt as if I took 4-5 hits from a bowl. I did sleep quite well that night though. I don't know about one hit herb where you won't be able to talk properly. It kind of depends on your tolerance and the smoking method but I've never experienced that myself either. What I'm saying is that the herb that is ceilingless is very rarely the herb that is the most potent. Personally I've never hit a ceiling on a good oaxacan or acapulco. The other nice thing about some colombians and some pacific mexicans is that the buzz is so pleasant that its nice to take it up really high. Whereas something like a durban can get quite uncomfortable before you approach the ceiling so its not worth it to try and find the ceiling if it is one. Some pure sativas do have low ceilings. I've grown destroyer seeds that had a terribly low ceiling. In the search for ceilingless herb my advice is to try landrace genetics. Especially when grown outdoors or in a greenhouse. Try "The Haze" from hothouse flowers or Zamal from the gypsy nirvana collection malawi from afropips. Also bsc will have more than a few strains with high or unlimited ceilings when they become available.


i still remember a colombian weed we copped off some sailors from a vessel 25 years ago.. real dark weed, and after smoking 1/2 a joint, you had resin on your fingers... never saw that before nor afterwards...
 

Elevator Man

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Elevator that is the single most beautiful indoor grown malawi I've ever seen
Zamalito - coming from you, that is indeed a compliment - thanks.

Threads like this, and the information-sharing they promote are what has inspired me to 'dive in' on sativas indoors. It's not easy, but it's also nowhere as difficult as I thought it would be! And the high, now I've done it myself from beginning to end, is most definitely worth the wait...:)

Rest assured, there's definitely going to be some seed orders soon... :chin:
 

amsterdamned123

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nevilles is one of my favorite sativas but ssh is up there along with SD. One time i took one bong hit before work of SSH and I didn't sober up until over 4 hours later. This could be just me but id suggest SSH or SD to anyone.
 

mriko

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Well, it's not herb itself, but the Kashmiri Twisted garda is a hash that has no ceiling. Amazing sativa high which takes you on a magic carpet flight, As long as you smoke it will take you higher, eventually piercing through the skyes and reaching to the stars. THis hash is made from tall sativas (I've seen mostly one type overthere, poplar shaped, 3 meters and more late July. Another, single, pland I have seen was truly huge, probably close to 5 meters, more christmas-tree shaped, but I bet that went fully budded must strongly bent down).

Most probably the special treatment needed to produce the twisted garda affects the cannabinoid ratios, but most certainly these strains are worthy to look after. Were the effect of the buds of the same kind than that of the hash, it would make one of the most amazing ganja, definitely.






Irie !
 
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I love neville haze, for me its the strongest sat that i've smoked... but I don´t have smoke a wide range... i like the brazilian (green, amarelo, manga, terrinha...) and paraguay weed too, smoked a lot and still smoke but in my opinion nh is stronger, also taste and smell better.

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ngakpa

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no doubt I am re-treading old ground here, but I think it's important to note that if you are looking for a resounding sativa high there is a lot to be said for patience - i.e. allowing sativas to flower and re-flower as many times as they wish

I read that Chamba does this, and I expect there are plenty other sativa people out there who do the same -

though strangely, the Cannabis Bible suggests that it is not worthwhile to let sativas become over-ripe, which suprises me -

as I see it, as long as there is authentic equatorial sativa in the strain, it should pay to wait - yield is that bit higher (which when it is insanely potent, as it should be, is worthwhile), but most importantly the change in the cannabinoid profile provides "that high" which many of us who grew up before fast-flowering candyweed became standard fare are looking for
 
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Budelaire

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I am growing the Celestial Temple Sativa X Hawaiian Sativa from Federation and this hybrid has stellar effect, psychoactively intense. The taste of one the 2 phenos (2 landraces) is quite citrus/caramel/earthy. abundant trichomes glister like miniature diamonds. 9 out of 10 stuff. Low odor (stealthy and peace of mind), I will continue to clone this pheno for a long time. I have 5 seeds left from this hybrid and will inbreed a male with my cloned female to produce seeds. Hawaiian sativa genetics are superior, indeed!
 

jojajico

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landrace sativas often will have multiple flowering windows. and alot of things that apply to indicas an hybrids do not apply to pure sativas. you shouldnt let them become overripe just check the trichs. often times if its a landrace your going to have to do a little experimentation if it hasnt been worked with.
 
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I love haze hybrids.

Mid section of my 3ft long cola. Taste like sour lemon heads. Think Jack's cleaner meets haze. There's no ceiling to it.


Mid section of my 2ft long cola. Tasted like tropical skunk fruit.


Oh and one last pic because I'm really stoned and love this pic. Taken on the back of the Sega Genesis box game called Kings Bounty. It created the game known now as Heroes of might and magic. Look too the bottem right, it says potent. I did'nt notice it till after the pic.
 
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ngakpa

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jojajico said:
landrace sativas often will have multiple flowering windows. you shouldnt let them become overripe just check the trichs.

I've seen guys on here harvesting Malawi Gold the first time the trichs went cloudy - then complaining that it was rubbish

using trichs is merely one way of judging whether herb is ready or not ... not only does that require knowing the differences sativas have .. but it still requires that you get to know that particular strain and find out when the best time to harvest that strain is

added to that, it's not a question of when you should and shouldn't harvest - it's a question of harvesting at the correct time for the effect you are seeking

there are a plethora of different ways of growing, and IMHO, in the millenia old history of growing, the relatively recent arrival of people growing indicas indoors has skewed things a bit - away from the complexities of sativas

for an example of the diversity, look at places like Reunion etc. where people might sometimes leave sativa bud on the plant long after the plant appears to be dead, in order to produce powerfully mind-altering smoke

with classy equatorial sativas it really does pay to prolong what some people see as the "final phases of flowering", since that is where the interesting stuff starts to happen ... the buds "communicate" in plenty of other ways than just trichome colour ... e.g. other visual signals and most importanty, smell

btw I hate to be a pedant, but the spelling is "masturbator"
 
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jojajico

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ngakpa said:
I've seen guys on here harvesting Malawi Gold the first time the trichs went cloudy - then complaining that it was rubbish

using trichs is merely one way of judging whether herb is ready or not ... it still requires that you get to know a strain and find out when the best time to harvest that strain is i.e. it's not a question of when you should and shouldn't harvest - it's a question of harvesting at the correct time for the effect you are seeking

there are a plethora of different ways of growing, and IMHO in the millenia old history of growing the relatively recent arrival of people growing indicas indoors has skewed things a bit - e.g. look at places like Reunion etc. where people might sometimes leave sativa bud on the plant long after the plant appears to be dead, in order to produce powerfully mind-altering smoke

with classy equatorial sativas it really does pay to prolong what some people see as the "final phases of flowering", since that is where the interesting stuff starts to happen ... the buds "communicate" in plenty of other ways than just trichome colour ... e.g. other visual signals and most importanty, smell

btw I hate to be a pedant, but the spelling is "masturbator"

hence the line about it taking some experimentation should have quoted the entire post.
 
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IwannagethighOG

Arn't you suppossed to roll up malawi in banana cob and bury it for awhile to get the true affect. lol

Now give me some of that classic thai that is spiraled up the stem and tied too a bamboo stick or not. Maybe it was the opium.lol

Oh and nice pics mriko.
 
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Budelaire

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jojajico said:
landrace sativas often will have multiple flowering windows. and alot of things that apply to indicas an hybrids do not apply to pure sativas. you shouldnt let them become overripe just check the trichs. often times if its a landrace your going to have to do a little experimentation if it hasnt been worked with.

Thank you Jojajico, before harvesting my C.T.S. x Hawiian Sativa, I was concerned about the flowering/finishing time, because the tint of the trichomes does not change much. My best time for harvesting a 100 % sativa is when the pistils are turning brown to around 90 % and trichs have taken over the small leaves, those part of the colas. Even when my sativas are curing, trichomes are still glistering as diamonds. it is my first time, growing 100 % sativas and I am sure that information like yours will help me harvest the best size semi fluffy buds from my C.T.S. X H.S.
 

Budelaire

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I must say that when I take more than 3 puffs of my H.S. x C.T.S., I ask myself if I will fly so high that my mind will be changed forever, like a L.S.D. trip.... Actually, it can be safely taken, if you are experienced, of course. but be ready for the "ride" of your life!

Saturday night, since my sativa x sativa hybrid has no ceiling, I felt to push far the intake of this heavy hitter. I smoked at least 6 large puffs. 15 minutes later, I had my eyes half way closed, however very awake, soaring in an endless stellar space... I put some Jimmy Hendrix music and it was totally delightfull to the ears. The songs Purple Haze, Wild thing, Hey Joe and Voodoo Chile had an unheard clarity of sound. The music was kind of brought to my mind on an incredible colourfull wave ...
 
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