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Hola norby! Now that's what I'm talking about! You seem to have them under control.
How were the seeds? Big, grey?
Time to get this thread going again.
I'll be exploring some landraces from different parts of the globe during the coming months. The goal is to map differences and especially similarities between separate populations. Any input is welcome and pictures very appreciated.
This map represents what I'll be growing. Join in if interested.
I'll be exploring some landraces from different parts of the globe during the coming months. The goal is to map differences and especially similarities between separate populations. Any input is welcome and pictures very appreciated.
This map represents what I'll be growing. Join in if interested.
Hi, I am very interested in this topic. I always try to find ganja seeds wherever I travel. I have grown some Thai and St.Lucian varieties but never to completion due to circumstances. Kazakh seeds failed to germinate a couple of months ago on a heated propagator - all other seeds did but these didn't, and they were fresh.
I wonder if these seeds might respond to stratification, given the winter temperatures in its native climes.
Also the following picture was taken in May near Almaty, Kazakhstan - if these plants were flowering then, surely they are strongly autoflowering and not photoperiod sensitive?
Perhaps these plants have even overwintered?
It is the extreme divergence in characteristics which marks the cannabis plant as so adaptive (in nature) and adaptable (for our breeding purposes). Such genetic strength is irreplaceable once lost, which is why this line of work and manner of thinking is so very important indeed.
I wonder if these seeds might respond to stratification, given the winter temperatures in its native climes.
Also the following picture was taken in May near Almaty, Kazakhstan - if these plants were flowering then, surely they are strongly autoflowering and not photoperiod sensitive?
Perhaps these plants have even overwintered?
It is the extreme divergence in characteristics which marks the cannabis plant as so adaptive (in nature) and adaptable (for our breeding purposes). Such genetic strength is irreplaceable once lost, which is why this line of work and manner of thinking is so very important indeed.
Thanks for he rapport afghan! I like the picture of that khazak plant. Seedcollecting is a rewarding hobby, lots of interesting stuff to find.
Sounds like a autoflowering variety like you said although the look is some what different to varieties on the European side. Almaty is an interesting place for collecting due to it's vicinity to the traditional hash producing area of Xinjian.
With winter temperatures of -37.7c the seeds probably hibernate, in which case they would take up to 5 months before being able to germinate. At some point they just simulataniously feel ready to go, and should be kept in moist soil for about a week at fridge temperature. That usually triggers wild seeds to sprout.
I'm also planning to collect some seeds at the south easter corner of Europe later this summer. I would pm you over the kazak variety but I believe you need a total of 100 posts for that..
Something I've been trying to wrap my head around lately:
Genetic evidence for speciation in Cannabis (Cannabaceae)
Karl W. Hillig
Department of Biology, Indiana University, Bloomington, IN, USA; Current address: 1010 Saratoga Road,
Ballston Lake, NY 12019, USA Received 7 January 2003; accepted in revised form 28 June 2003
Key words: Allozyme, Cannabis, Evolution, Genetics, Origin, Taxonomy
Table 1. Passport data for the 157 Cannabis accessions examined.
Origin ID n Region/name Use Parallel ID Source Taxon
Afghanistan Af-1 10 Drug 891383b CPRO C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-2 12 Ghazni Drug 91-100c AMSRS C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-3 15 ‘Afghani No. 1’ Drug AMSRS C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-4 10 ‘G13’ Drug SB C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-5 10 ‘Hash Plant’ Drug 921199b SB C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-6 9 ‘Heavily High’ Drug M 40 SSSC C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-7 10 Mazar i Sharif Drug 921200b SB C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-8 10 Drug BPDIN C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-9 10 ‘N. Lights 1’ Drug SB C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-10 10 Afghan mix Drug SB C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Armenia Ar-1 8 Hemp VIR 472d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Armenia Ar-2 9 Hemp VIR 482d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Belorus Br-1 10 Hemp VIR 296d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Bulgaria Bg-1 10 ‘Lovrin 110’ Hemp 883173b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Bulgaria Bg-2 10 Silistrenski Hemp 901107b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Bulgaria Bg-3 9 Hemp VIR 73d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Bulgaria Bg-4 7 Hemp VIR 335d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Bulgaria Bg-5 4 Hemp VIR 369d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Bulgaria Bg-6 4 Hemp VIR 370d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Cambodia Cm-1 10 Drug No. 154a SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
China Ch-1 10 Hemp 901078b CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
China Ch-2 12 Rud. No. 338a, 921201b NJBG C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. spo.k
China Ch-3 10 Hemp NJBG C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
China Ch-4 10 Shandong Hemp 921198b AMSRS C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
China Ch-5 10 ‘Shun-Da’ Hemp 921051b, VIR 175d CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
China Ch-6 12 ‘Tin-Yan’ Hemp 883249b, VIR 184d CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
China Ch-7 15 ‘Shan-Va’ Hemp 921218b, VIR 185d VIR C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
Colombia Cl-1 10 Drug BPDIN C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Colombia Cl-2 10 Drug BPDIN C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Gambia Gm-1 10 Drug AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Germany Gr-1 10 var. spontanea Rud. 883141b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. spo.k
Hungary Hn-1 10 ‘Szegedi-9’ Hemp 883044b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Hungary Hn-2 10 Nyiregyha´za´ i Hemp 883050b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Hungary Hn-3 10 Leveleki Hemp 883051b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Hungary Hn-4 10 Kisszekeresi Hemp 883058b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Hungary Hn-5 10 var. spontanea Rud. 883113b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. spo.k
Hungary Hn-6 10 var. spontanea Rud. 883114b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. spo.k
Hungary Hn-7 12 C. ruderalis Rud. No. 316f HBIPM C. sat.i,j; sat. spo.k
Hungary Hn-8 8 Rud. No. 317f HBIPM C. sat.i,j; sat. spo.k
Hungary Hn-9 10 C. ruderalis Rud. No. 1247f HBIPM C. sat.i,j; sat. spo.k
India In-1 12 Munar, Kerala Drug 91-194c AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
India In-2 12 Almora Rud. NBPGR C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. kaf.k
India In-3 12 Delhi Rud. NBPGR C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. kaf.k
India In-4 12 Pauri, Garhwal Hemp 921207b INDBS C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
India In-5 12 Saharanpur Rud. NBPGR C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. kaf.k
Italy It-1 10 ‘Kompolti’ Hemp 883048b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-2 10 Hemp MDCC C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-3 12 Hemp VIR 106d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-4 10 Hemp 921050b, VIR 112d CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-5 8 Turin Hemp VIR 195d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-6 7 Napoletana Hemp VIR 278d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-7 4 Distr. di Fatza Hemp VIR 280d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-8 9 Carmagnola Hemp VIR 282d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-9 4 Hemp VIR 462d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Jamaica Jm-1 10 Drug No. 66a, 921209b SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Japan Jp-1 14 No. 152a, 921208b SMALL C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
Japan Jp-2 18 Kozuhara zairai Hemp 883213b CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
Kazakhstan Kz-1 9 Hemp VIR 468d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Kazakhstan Kz-2 9 Hemp VIR 469d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
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Table 1. Continued.
Origin ID n Region/name Use Parallel ID Source Taxon
Kazakhstan Kz-3 8 Hemp VIR 470d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Kazakhstan Kz-4 6 Alma Ata Hemp VIR 484d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Lesotho Ls-1 10 Drug SAP C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Mexico Mx-1 12 Drug No. 24a, 921231b SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Mexico Mx-2 8 Drug No. 41a SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Mexico Mx-3 12 Drug No. 289a, 921232b SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Mexico Mx-4 10 Drug 921230b SHOY C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Moldavia Ml-1 5 Hemp VIR 116d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Nepal Np-1 10 Kalopani Rud. 891192b CPRO C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. kaf.k
Nepal Np-2 10 Dana Hemp 891193b CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
Nepal Np-3 10 Rud. 921233b SB C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. kaf.k
Nigeria Ng-1 10 Drug AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Pakistan Pk-1 30 NW Frontier Drug PAKI C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Poland Pl-1 7 C.s. ‘gigantea’ Hemp VIR 443d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Poland Pl-2 10 Hemp VIR 474d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Poland Pl-3 10 Hemp VIR 475d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Poland Pl-4 8 Hemp VIR 476d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Romania Rm-1 10 ssp. ruderalis Rud. 883154b CPRO C. sativai,j; sat. spo.k
Romania Rm-2 10 ssp. ruderalis Rud. 901047b CPRO C. sativai,j; sat. spo.k
Romania Rm-3 10 Hemp VIR 374d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-1 6 Khakass Rud. N 38g CSBG C. sat.i; C. rud.j; sat. spo.k
Russia Rs-2 5 Novosibirsk Rud. N 77g CSBG C. sat.i; C. rud.j; sat. spo.k
Russia Rs-3 10 Altai Rud. N 79g CSBG C. sat.i; C. rud.j; sat. spo.k
Russia Rs-4 10 Gorno-Altay Rud. N 82g CSBG C. sat.i; C. rud.j; sat. spo.k
Russia Rs-5 4 Khakass Rud. N 102g CSBG C. sat.i; C. rud.j; sat. spo.k
Russia Rs-6 10 Dalnevostochnaya Hemp 921214b, VIR 58d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-7 7 Altaiskaya Hemp VIR 90d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-8 10 Altaiskaya Hemp 883248b, VIR 100d CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-9 10 Altaiskaya Hemp VIR 107d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-10 7 Altaiskaya Hemp VIR 141d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-11 12 Novosibirskaya Hemp 921217b, VIR 142d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-12 8 Ermakovskaya Hemp VIR 310d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-13 10 Dalnevostochnaya Hemp VIR 387d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-14 6 Trubchevskaya Hemp VIR 41d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-15 12 Orlovskaya Hemp 883247b, VIR 48d CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-16 8 Toguchinskaya Hemp VIR 77d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-17 7 Tyumenskaya Hemp VIR 85d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-18 4 Smolenskaya Hemp VIR 110d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-19 8 Permskaya Hemp VIR 140d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-20 7 Maryiskaya Hemp VIR 151d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-21 7 Tatarskaya Hemp VIR 156d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-22 12 Kirovskaya Hemp VIR 313d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-23 10 Kirovskaya Hemp 883289b, VIR 315d CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-24 10 Maryiskaya Hemp 891327b, VIR 349d CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-25 14 Chuvashskaya Hemp 921223b, VIR 354d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-26 14 Maryiskaya Hemp 921224b, VIR 356d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-27 10 Arkhonskaya Hemp 921226b, VIR 405d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-28 8 Tyumenskaya Hemp VIR 528d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Sierra Leone SL-1 10 Drug No. 63a, 921236b SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Spain Sp-1 10 Hemp 880973b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Spain Sp-2 10 Hemp 891240b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Spain Sp-3 10 Hemp 921213b, VIR 57d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Spain Sp-4 6 Hemp VIR 163d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
South Africa SA-1 12 Pietersburg Drug SAP C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
South Africa SA-2 10 Transkei Drug SAP C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
South Africa SA-3 4 Transkei Drug AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
South Africa SA-4 10 Drug 921235b DNHSA C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
South Korea SK-1 12 Andong Hemp 901161b CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
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Table 1. Continued.
Origin ID n Region/name Use Parallel ID Source Taxon
South Korea SK-2 10 Bonghwa Hemp 901162b CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
South Korea SK-3 10 Milyang Hemp 901163b CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
South Korea SK-4 12 Chonnamjong Hemp RDASK C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
South Korea SK-5 10 Kangwansong Hemp IT.180388e RDASK C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
South Korea SK-6 12 Sunchangsong Hemp IT.180384e RDASK C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
South Korea SK-7 12 Sungjusong Hemp IT.180386e RDASK C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
Swaziland Sw-1 12 Drug SAP C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Syria Sy-1 10 Hemp VIR 397d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Thailand Th-1 12 Drug No. 10a SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Thailand Th-2 10 Sakon Nokhon Drug 91-170c AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Thailand Th-3 12 Drug 91-171c AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Thailand Th-4 8 Drug 91-172.8c AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Thailand Th-5 10 Drug 92-176c AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Thailand Th-6 10 Drug AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Thailand Th-7 10 Meao, THCVA Hemp 921237b SHOY C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-1 10 Tokumu Hemp 883272b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-2 12 Hemp 891088b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-3 10 Hemp 891090b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-4 10 Hemp 891093b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-5 10 Kurdistan Hemp RBREN C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-6 7 Hemp VIR 52d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-7 10 Hemp VIR 54d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-8 7 Hemp VIR 464d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-9 9 Hemp VIR 465d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Uganda Ug-1 10 Drug No. 76a SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Uganda Ug-2 10 Mbale district Drug 921239b KWNDA C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Ukraine Uk-1 9 Novgorod-Severskaya Hemp VIR 37d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Ukraine Uk-2 12 Transcarpathian Hemp 921215b, VIR 125d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Ukraine Uk-3 12 Transcarpathian Hemp 921216b, VIR 126d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Ukraine Uk-4 4 Transcarpathian Hemp VIR 128d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Ukraine Uk-5 7 Transcarpathian Hemp VIR 130d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Ukraine Uk-6 12 Hemp 921219b, VIR 205d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Uzbekistan Uz-1 5 Kokand Rud. AMSRS C. sat.i; C. rud.j; sat. spo.k
Yugoslavia Yg-1 12 Domaca local Hemp 921210b, VIR 11d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Yugoslavia Yg-2 5 Nisca Hemp VIR 19d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Yugoslavia Yg-3 10 Hemp 921211b, VIR 22d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Yugoslavia Yg-4 10 Hemp 921212b, VIR 29d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Yugoslavia Yg-5 7 Leskovacha Hemp VIR 377d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Yugoslavia Yg-6 10 Novosadska Hemp VIR 442d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Zimbabwe Zm-1 10 Drug No. 235a, 921234b SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
There's more but I'm taking the time to interpret all this. Looks like afghanica is marked as cannabis indica indica, narrowleaf ganja on the other hand seems to have some cannabis sativa (hemp, ruderalis) admixture. Lot's on interesting stuff here, not what I expected though. I would have thought afghanica was the hybrid due to it's proximity to Siberia.
Genetic evidence for speciation in Cannabis (Cannabaceae)
Karl W. Hillig
Department of Biology, Indiana University, Bloomington, IN, USA; Current address: 1010 Saratoga Road,
Ballston Lake, NY 12019, USA Received 7 January 2003; accepted in revised form 28 June 2003
Key words: Allozyme, Cannabis, Evolution, Genetics, Origin, Taxonomy
Table 1. Passport data for the 157 Cannabis accessions examined.
Origin ID n Region/name Use Parallel ID Source Taxon
Afghanistan Af-1 10 Drug 891383b CPRO C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-2 12 Ghazni Drug 91-100c AMSRS C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-3 15 ‘Afghani No. 1’ Drug AMSRS C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-4 10 ‘G13’ Drug SB C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-5 10 ‘Hash Plant’ Drug 921199b SB C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-6 9 ‘Heavily High’ Drug M 40 SSSC C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-7 10 Mazar i Sharif Drug 921200b SB C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-8 10 Drug BPDIN C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-9 10 ‘N. Lights 1’ Drug SB C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Afghanistan Af-10 10 Afghan mix Drug SB C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Armenia Ar-1 8 Hemp VIR 472d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Armenia Ar-2 9 Hemp VIR 482d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Belorus Br-1 10 Hemp VIR 296d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Bulgaria Bg-1 10 ‘Lovrin 110’ Hemp 883173b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Bulgaria Bg-2 10 Silistrenski Hemp 901107b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Bulgaria Bg-3 9 Hemp VIR 73d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Bulgaria Bg-4 7 Hemp VIR 335d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Bulgaria Bg-5 4 Hemp VIR 369d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Bulgaria Bg-6 4 Hemp VIR 370d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Cambodia Cm-1 10 Drug No. 154a SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
China Ch-1 10 Hemp 901078b CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
China Ch-2 12 Rud. No. 338a, 921201b NJBG C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. spo.k
China Ch-3 10 Hemp NJBG C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
China Ch-4 10 Shandong Hemp 921198b AMSRS C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
China Ch-5 10 ‘Shun-Da’ Hemp 921051b, VIR 175d CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
China Ch-6 12 ‘Tin-Yan’ Hemp 883249b, VIR 184d CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
China Ch-7 15 ‘Shan-Va’ Hemp 921218b, VIR 185d VIR C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
Colombia Cl-1 10 Drug BPDIN C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Colombia Cl-2 10 Drug BPDIN C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Gambia Gm-1 10 Drug AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Germany Gr-1 10 var. spontanea Rud. 883141b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. spo.k
Hungary Hn-1 10 ‘Szegedi-9’ Hemp 883044b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Hungary Hn-2 10 Nyiregyha´za´ i Hemp 883050b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Hungary Hn-3 10 Leveleki Hemp 883051b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Hungary Hn-4 10 Kisszekeresi Hemp 883058b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Hungary Hn-5 10 var. spontanea Rud. 883113b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. spo.k
Hungary Hn-6 10 var. spontanea Rud. 883114b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. spo.k
Hungary Hn-7 12 C. ruderalis Rud. No. 316f HBIPM C. sat.i,j; sat. spo.k
Hungary Hn-8 8 Rud. No. 317f HBIPM C. sat.i,j; sat. spo.k
Hungary Hn-9 10 C. ruderalis Rud. No. 1247f HBIPM C. sat.i,j; sat. spo.k
India In-1 12 Munar, Kerala Drug 91-194c AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
India In-2 12 Almora Rud. NBPGR C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. kaf.k
India In-3 12 Delhi Rud. NBPGR C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. kaf.k
India In-4 12 Pauri, Garhwal Hemp 921207b INDBS C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
India In-5 12 Saharanpur Rud. NBPGR C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. kaf.k
Italy It-1 10 ‘Kompolti’ Hemp 883048b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-2 10 Hemp MDCC C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-3 12 Hemp VIR 106d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-4 10 Hemp 921050b, VIR 112d CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-5 8 Turin Hemp VIR 195d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-6 7 Napoletana Hemp VIR 278d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-7 4 Distr. di Fatza Hemp VIR 280d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-8 9 Carmagnola Hemp VIR 282d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Italy It-9 4 Hemp VIR 462d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Jamaica Jm-1 10 Drug No. 66a, 921209b SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Japan Jp-1 14 No. 152a, 921208b SMALL C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
Japan Jp-2 18 Kozuhara zairai Hemp 883213b CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
Kazakhstan Kz-1 9 Hemp VIR 468d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Kazakhstan Kz-2 9 Hemp VIR 469d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
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Table 1. Continued.
Origin ID n Region/name Use Parallel ID Source Taxon
Kazakhstan Kz-3 8 Hemp VIR 470d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Kazakhstan Kz-4 6 Alma Ata Hemp VIR 484d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Lesotho Ls-1 10 Drug SAP C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Mexico Mx-1 12 Drug No. 24a, 921231b SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Mexico Mx-2 8 Drug No. 41a SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Mexico Mx-3 12 Drug No. 289a, 921232b SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Mexico Mx-4 10 Drug 921230b SHOY C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Moldavia Ml-1 5 Hemp VIR 116d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Nepal Np-1 10 Kalopani Rud. 891192b CPRO C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. kaf.k
Nepal Np-2 10 Dana Hemp 891193b CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
Nepal Np-3 10 Rud. 921233b SB C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. kaf.k
Nigeria Ng-1 10 Drug AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Pakistan Pk-1 30 NW Frontier Drug PAKI C. ind.j; ind. ind.k
Poland Pl-1 7 C.s. ‘gigantea’ Hemp VIR 443d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Poland Pl-2 10 Hemp VIR 474d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Poland Pl-3 10 Hemp VIR 475d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Poland Pl-4 8 Hemp VIR 476d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Romania Rm-1 10 ssp. ruderalis Rud. 883154b CPRO C. sativai,j; sat. spo.k
Romania Rm-2 10 ssp. ruderalis Rud. 901047b CPRO C. sativai,j; sat. spo.k
Romania Rm-3 10 Hemp VIR 374d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-1 6 Khakass Rud. N 38g CSBG C. sat.i; C. rud.j; sat. spo.k
Russia Rs-2 5 Novosibirsk Rud. N 77g CSBG C. sat.i; C. rud.j; sat. spo.k
Russia Rs-3 10 Altai Rud. N 79g CSBG C. sat.i; C. rud.j; sat. spo.k
Russia Rs-4 10 Gorno-Altay Rud. N 82g CSBG C. sat.i; C. rud.j; sat. spo.k
Russia Rs-5 4 Khakass Rud. N 102g CSBG C. sat.i; C. rud.j; sat. spo.k
Russia Rs-6 10 Dalnevostochnaya Hemp 921214b, VIR 58d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-7 7 Altaiskaya Hemp VIR 90d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-8 10 Altaiskaya Hemp 883248b, VIR 100d CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-9 10 Altaiskaya Hemp VIR 107d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-10 7 Altaiskaya Hemp VIR 141d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-11 12 Novosibirskaya Hemp 921217b, VIR 142d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-12 8 Ermakovskaya Hemp VIR 310d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-13 10 Dalnevostochnaya Hemp VIR 387d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-14 6 Trubchevskaya Hemp VIR 41d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-15 12 Orlovskaya Hemp 883247b, VIR 48d CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-16 8 Toguchinskaya Hemp VIR 77d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-17 7 Tyumenskaya Hemp VIR 85d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-18 4 Smolenskaya Hemp VIR 110d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-19 8 Permskaya Hemp VIR 140d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-20 7 Maryiskaya Hemp VIR 151d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-21 7 Tatarskaya Hemp VIR 156d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-22 12 Kirovskaya Hemp VIR 313d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-23 10 Kirovskaya Hemp 883289b, VIR 315d CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-24 10 Maryiskaya Hemp 891327b, VIR 349d CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-25 14 Chuvashskaya Hemp 921223b, VIR 354d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-26 14 Maryiskaya Hemp 921224b, VIR 356d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-27 10 Arkhonskaya Hemp 921226b, VIR 405d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Russia Rs-28 8 Tyumenskaya Hemp VIR 528d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Sierra Leone SL-1 10 Drug No. 63a, 921236b SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Spain Sp-1 10 Hemp 880973b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Spain Sp-2 10 Hemp 891240b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Spain Sp-3 10 Hemp 921213b, VIR 57d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Spain Sp-4 6 Hemp VIR 163d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
South Africa SA-1 12 Pietersburg Drug SAP C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
South Africa SA-2 10 Transkei Drug SAP C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
South Africa SA-3 4 Transkei Drug AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
South Africa SA-4 10 Drug 921235b DNHSA C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
South Korea SK-1 12 Andong Hemp 901161b CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
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Origin ID n Region/name Use Parallel ID Source Taxon
South Korea SK-2 10 Bonghwa Hemp 901162b CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
South Korea SK-3 10 Milyang Hemp 901163b CPRO C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
South Korea SK-4 12 Chonnamjong Hemp RDASK C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
South Korea SK-5 10 Kangwansong Hemp IT.180388e RDASK C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
South Korea SK-6 12 Sunchangsong Hemp IT.180384e RDASK C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
South Korea SK-7 12 Sungjusong Hemp IT.180386e RDASK C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
Swaziland Sw-1 12 Drug SAP C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Syria Sy-1 10 Hemp VIR 397d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Thailand Th-1 12 Drug No. 10a SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Thailand Th-2 10 Sakon Nokhon Drug 91-170c AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Thailand Th-3 12 Drug 91-171c AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Thailand Th-4 8 Drug 91-172.8c AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Thailand Th-5 10 Drug 92-176c AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Thailand Th-6 10 Drug AMSRS C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Thailand Th-7 10 Meao, THCVA Hemp 921237b SHOY C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-1 10 Tokumu Hemp 883272b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-2 12 Hemp 891088b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-3 10 Hemp 891090b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-4 10 Hemp 891093b CPRO C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-5 10 Kurdistan Hemp RBREN C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-6 7 Hemp VIR 52d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-7 10 Hemp VIR 54d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-8 7 Hemp VIR 464d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Turkey Tk-9 9 Hemp VIR 465d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Uganda Ug-1 10 Drug No. 76a SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Uganda Ug-2 10 Mbale district Drug 921239b KWNDA C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
Ukraine Uk-1 9 Novgorod-Severskaya Hemp VIR 37d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Ukraine Uk-2 12 Transcarpathian Hemp 921215b, VIR 125d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Ukraine Uk-3 12 Transcarpathian Hemp 921216b, VIR 126d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Ukraine Uk-4 4 Transcarpathian Hemp VIR 128d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Ukraine Uk-5 7 Transcarpathian Hemp VIR 130d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Ukraine Uk-6 12 Hemp 921219b, VIR 205d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Uzbekistan Uz-1 5 Kokand Rud. AMSRS C. sat.i; C. rud.j; sat. spo.k
Yugoslavia Yg-1 12 Domaca local Hemp 921210b, VIR 11d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Yugoslavia Yg-2 5 Nisca Hemp VIR 19d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Yugoslavia Yg-3 10 Hemp 921211b, VIR 22d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Yugoslavia Yg-4 10 Hemp 921212b, VIR 29d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Yugoslavia Yg-5 7 Leskovacha Hemp VIR 377d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Yugoslavia Yg-6 10 Novosadska Hemp VIR 442d VIR C. sat.i,j; sat. sat.k
Zimbabwe Zm-1 10 Drug No. 235a, 921234b SMALL C. ind.i; C. sat.j; ind. ind.k
There's more but I'm taking the time to interpret all this. Looks like afghanica is marked as cannabis indica indica, narrowleaf ganja on the other hand seems to have some cannabis sativa (hemp, ruderalis) admixture. Lot's on interesting stuff here, not what I expected though. I would have thought afghanica was the hybrid due to it's proximity to Siberia.
marked for future reading
Some highlights from the above listing:
Notice how the Meao Thai is different from other thais tested, and seems to cluster with the chinese samples. Thailand Th-7 10 Meao, THCVA Hemp 921237b SHOY C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
Indian hemp from Garhwal has similar values, linking it to China. India In-4 12 Pauri, Garhwal Hemp 921207b INDBS C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
All of the far eastern hemp samples seem to be a mix of c. chinensis and c. sativa.. In this light I find it hard to imagine c. indica originating from China or Thailand.
Notice how the Meao Thai is different from other thais tested, and seems to cluster with the chinese samples. Thailand Th-7 10 Meao, THCVA Hemp 921237b SHOY C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
Indian hemp from Garhwal has similar values, linking it to China. India In-4 12 Pauri, Garhwal Hemp 921207b INDBS C. chi.h; C. sat.j; sat. sat.k
All of the far eastern hemp samples seem to be a mix of c. chinensis and c. sativa.. In this light I find it hard to imagine c. indica originating from China or Thailand.
For those interested the whole study can be found in the CHINESE archaeological hemp thread which is a good read for anyone.
Meanwhile, pics!
This is what cannabis chinensis looks like in Yunnan
Meanwhile, pics!
This is what cannabis chinensis looks like in Yunnan
"C. indica" is originally a dwarf stuff with quasi no stretch, naturally evolution came from high valley altitudes with full UV and cold, +3000 i think and of course hundreds of years to adapt and acclimatize! Named Kafiristanica by N. Vavilov.
So not from China i think, Hindu x Kush is a nice place before and after
I would imagine it very difficult finding dwarf fields like that in Afghanistan nowadays. According to some the seedstock is now very much mixed with the wild subspecies, and most of the growing is happening in the lowlands. I don't know if the lowland variety was taller to begin with.
In Hilligs paper the name kafiristanica is used for cannabis indica gone feral, the Himalayas for example. Cannabis appeared in India relatively late, coinciding with the migration (conquest?) of the indo iranian peoples.
Nepalese tree sativa
In Hilligs paper the name kafiristanica is used for cannabis indica gone feral, the Himalayas for example. Cannabis appeared in India relatively late, coinciding with the migration (conquest?) of the indo iranian peoples.
Nepalese tree sativa
Yeah bro nowadays big up to Tom Hill, Deep Chunk and X18 who are similars i think to the old Kafiristanica came from the Nuristan mountains.
Very difficult to understand all canna evolution since when from where, maybe differents sources!? But that could be possible today with spectometry or something advanced molecular studies... Anyway the human history is related, let's hope that scientists consider it closely, linking and comparing, and better understanding each evolution history!
Vibes to your lovely young Nepal fella
Very difficult to understand all canna evolution since when from where, maybe differents sources!? But that could be possible today with spectometry or something advanced molecular studies... Anyway the human history is related, let's hope that scientists consider it closely, linking and comparing, and better understanding each evolution history!
Vibes to your lovely young Nepal fella
By considering your map, i think canna could survive in the greens areas
So i think it could came from the south at first, after the last glacial i mean, somewhere from South Indonesia to India and China and to Nuristan mountains to become dwarf?... Why not was dwarf in Nepal or somewhere in Himalaya i don't know... Maybe a question of human isolation, as was the Kalash people for many centuries in Nuristan compared to the most visited spiritual roads in Himalaya?
