One application of lost Coast did noticeably help. seems It’s a really good defense … you’re supposed to use it three days in a row consecutively and then at least once a week they’re on after as needed, depending upon how wet it is outside… there’s so much foliage on these plants the second you stand near one you realize how much leaf and lower larf can come out.. the interiors are opening up which is exactly what I want. There’s lotta branching in there that can be supported with electrical tape to the main centers of the stalk