Split from : The Complete guide to Sick Plants,pH, and Pest troubles!

[MynameStitch]

Ya, that filter will reduce a lot of the crap in your water.... should work good for ya.
If you got the cash for it, get a RO system if you want to go hydro..... for soil I would say use a filter like you are doing now.....

RO removes a lot of stuff from the water all micronutrients.......... so you have to suppliment like you would in hydro.. but I have seen some problems with plants not getting enough of rare nutrients, because of using RO water, espeically using them on seedlings man, that is the main problem when watering with RO on seedlings in soil...........

REason why so many people use RO system in hydro is, because you have complete control over your TDS readins and PPMs...... you won't have to worry about what is already in there from your tap, because you put it in there so there is no guess work.

You should look up about your filter system, different ones remove different things, the more expensive ones removes chlorine lead and other ailments... but if you want calcium and magnesium removed which is the sole cause of hard water then you will need to get a RO system.........

 

[GoneGrowing]

Hey. Yeah I guess a RO filter will be good for me, with such high EC-values in my tapwater and in my soil, well, bad combo I guess. I will still be using soil next time, but theres definitely a possibility that I might go hydro later on.

So yes I have been reading about the fact that a RO filter removes all the micronutrients, and when using the RO water in soil I was thinking of using like 50/50 of RO water and tapwater to not rid all the micronutrients from the tapwater, but would still be reducing the EC so that I could use some nutrient without getting way to high EC values.

So yes, the RO filter will definitely help lowering my waters EC and this will be usefull for hydro, but I hope that it will be too when using soil, just as long as I do as stated above.

I have also received my mosquito dunks, so I was planning on using them next watering, even though I haven't spotted any bugs lately. I just crumble it on top of the top soil and water right?

 

[MynameStitch]

YUp, 50/50 will do ya good, depending on the strain you still may have some minor micro nutrient issues; but most likely you may not... there is ALWAYS that mishap in growing when you grow a new strain

I think you mix the dunks with some water..... let me double check though.


Edit: Ya, you crumble up a bit of it and let it sit in the water a bit before using it and water your plants with it.

It's strong so you do not have to use a whole dunk for your plant.... I would try a little less than half a dunk/gallon or more of water for your problem you are having.

 

[GoneGrowing]

Great, 50/50 will be used then and if they're issues with some micro nutrients I'll try to adjust, I suppose than it can't be worse than my current high EC from the tap water. So hope I'm getting these hashberry dialed in to be very nice next run and see if I can learn from my mistakes, hehe.

Good, mosquito dunks will be applied in the dosage you advice, not that many bugs left in the soil maybe, but to be sure there's no reason to not use the mosquito dunks.

 

[GoneGrowing]

Hey! Watered today with a doasage of a ½ mosquito dunk for 1,5 gallons of water and 1.25 gallons were distributed to the plants, saw some bugs in one of the pots runoff, the're were quite a few of them there, but didn't observe any bugs in the other pots. Well I'll just have to see, will probably use half a mosquito dunk next watering again to make sure. There is some new green growth in the top, not a lot, but the little leaves on the buds look to have a healthier green color.

 

[MynameStitch]

That's good to hear.... if this does not kill them you may have to try something else.......

Hopefully it does work though, most stuff works for a number of pests not just one......

 

[prx]

My problem

They are in 28 day phase of flowering. PH 6.6 - 6.9. I measure ph always before i water it. I fertilise them once a week with canna terra flower. I mix the

HELP ME

 

[MynameStitch]

PRX: Not to be mean or rude, but I did help you out and you never came back letting me know anything; I even asked you a few questions you never came back to answer....... left on page 33 or 34 I think.........

Your issue is still the same..... part magnesium, but you also have potassium or calcium it looks like......

You were locking out nutrients from how much you were using before.. still the same now..

how much nutrients are you using now the same?
Need more info if anything has changed since the last time you posted, hopefully you listened to what I told you was wrong.. but it's obvious you did not do much to fix your issue.......

 

[HeadyPete]

PRX, you are checking fert ph, but what about runoff ph? PH changes when your ferts interact with soil. How are you checking ph? If you say soil probe.....

 

[MynameStitch]

Yay! We got petey in here now

Ya, I agree with ya there; I asked him back on page 33 I think about it and he did not answer all the questions..... I think he may not speak english to well it seems..... It's getting harder and harder to tell if it's that or just stoners being lazy lol.

 

[HeadyPete]

Gone Growing, it's more likely you have symphylids, rather than springtails. Springtails do not cause injury to living plants.

The symphylids will, and the little worms you are seeing are probably juvenile symphs, rather than the fungus gnats, as you say, because there are no flies present.

BTi (Dunks) are completely organic and safe and you should repeat the treatment in 7 days to kill any juveniles that hatched in that time. Soak the dunk overnight to activate the bacteria and populate the water.

More info: http://soilbugs.massey.ac.nz/symphyla.php

 

[HeadyPete]

How do you deal with this madhouse, S?

 

[MynameStitch]

Oh god, I dunno; the more peeps help out in here the better it is for me ! When this thread gets around 50 pages I am going to have it binned and start over to make it easier to read..

So anyone in here is more than welcome to come in here and help out and post
Hey heady were you on og?

 

[HeadyPete]

I was on OG, but not as Heady Pete. I honestly can't remember my name back then. I was away for awhile and when I came back I found that OG was no more. Then I found IC mag

 

[GoneGrowing]

Hey! Thanks for your input HeadyPete. It might be that the bugs I have(or hopefully soon had) is symphilids, I seriously don't know, I inspected the bugs as good as I could with a microscope and they didn't seem to have distinct long "antennas" and didn't seem to have as many legs as symphilids have. The worms/larvae was only spotted in two pots, but all the pots have been soggy due to all the flushing, way to soggy for a long time, but that is fixed now, on a more regular feeding/watering schedule and the pots were allowed to dry out good.

But no matter what the bugs were, I have used half a moosquito dunks and will use some more moquito dunks.

It is hard for me to be sure what has caused my defficiencies, I believe it's a combination of a number of things, but one primary reason I think is bad soil, BIO-BIZZ ALL-MIX IS A SOIL I'M NEVER GOING TO USE AGAIN, learned my lesson there.

My tap water has to high EC, bad when my soils EC is too high too.
I have had ph-problems, because of my water and soils high EC, and maybe a little overfeeding on my side.

Basically my plants have been really beautiful throughout my grow until about 3 weeks in bloom, where they stunted due to different things and their growth since then has been extremely small, close to none, but they aren't dead yet, just keeping them alive til harvest almost.

I have really gotten some good help from MynameStitch, really appreciated so there's some hope that they're getting a bit better and will grow a bit until they will be harvested.

One of the main reasons I'm really displeased with the soil and believe this soil is a important factor in my plants condition is that I have a friend who has been using same soil and ferts, and he has been experiencing a very similar growth, everything was good until a couple of weeks in to bloom, and then shit got bad, defficiencies all over, and he has never spotted any bugs, so I don't blame my bugs for my defficiencies, I more see the bugs as an indicator of my soil being to sogg, but still I really hope that I can get rid of them and hope that the mosquito dunks will do the trick.

But a combination of many factors has helped me stunting my plants completely. It's a real shame because if they had continued growing with the speed they started with, they would be HUGE, but just hope I'll get some decent smoke and that I can use my bad experience from this grow to really improve on the next one, which I really can't wait to get started, I'm thinking of a more dutch style/ sog grow next go around when I have gotten some decent mothers from my hashberrys and one of the white satins. Allready have a couple clones good and ready, so hope I can end this well without any bugs left and some decent buds and get ready for the next "easier" grow.

Damn, I really gotta start a thread on all that I have learned and therefore am gonna do different in the next grow instead of posting it here, and guess I will do a growjournal in the next grow, to prove that in can get better, lol.

 

[prx]

MynameStitch: Sorry about that for not write back. Yes I don`t write very good English. I measure ph with digital ph metric.
The plants are in 10 l pots. I feed it once a week and water it when the soil is dry.
What must i do? Flush plants?

 

[MynameStitch]

How much do you feed your plants? THat is very important.....

How big are your plants? How tall? you are using around a 2.5 gallon size pot for one....
It's ok at least I now know you do not speak it too well; Ijust thought you may have been lazy and just wanted a quick answer to your problem without trying to answer the questions.....

First I need to know how much you feed them.......

 

[prx]

For dose is prescribted 25ml/ 10l but i give 20ml/ 10l. On plant i give 1l of this. They are high about 80cm.

 

[MynameStitch]

Damn dude you are over feeding them; most defiantly flush them out.

You can start out small and use around 5ml per 4 liters of water.... your feeding is 5 x to strong.....

so yes flush them out with about 8 liters of water.

 

[prx]

Ok, tnx. I will report results next week.