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[MynameStitch]

Hey ft long time no see!

can you answer these questions. by the looks of it, you have a few problems, you definately have lockout issues, most likley caused by ph or to high nutrient levels

HYDROPONICS:

What STRAIN are you growing?
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?)
What is the age of your plants?
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?
What Technique are you using?
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.)
What is the Nutrient temperature?
What Nutrient's are you using?
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using?
What is the pH of the "Tank"?
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment?
When was your last watering?
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional)
What size bulb are you using?
What is the distance to the canopy?
What is your RH Factor?
What is the canopy temperature?
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range)
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When?
Are plant's infected with pest's

 

[edelephant]

Hey STitch,....Sounds like a stressful situation you had going there for a while. One of my best friends had to go through the same shit to find his brother that was adopted when he was born. Took nearly two years and a private dick to track him down....But when they finally met, it was like they had never been seperated...Pretty emotional stuff!!!

These plants are all the same strain, yes.

Plants are about 19" tall potted in a round pot around 9" diamater and 7" deep (have no idea what size pot.)

These girls are in a promix/perlite mix about 60%/40% ratio.

For regular feeding I am using the Advanced Nutrients Organic line and using the recommended amounts, feeding with the nutes in my water once a week, the other two feedings are just plain water.

I normally dont foliar feed too much but this time I decided to try something different out and foliar feed right after I took cuttings. Continued to foliar feed with the same solution for three days.


Hope this information can shed some light on my problem. I dont want to lose any of these ladies.

Thanks for the help Stitch and good luck with the REunion

The few things that have me worried.

1. I might have overdone it with foliar feeding last Monday (when I took clones from the plants) but shouldnt this affect all 5 plants the same and at the same time? Not one plant showing signs first, then a second, and finally a third, over the course of a week and a half?


are these all the same strain?

how tall are the plants and what size pot you got them in now?

what soil mixture are they in?

You have used way to much nutrients and burned them badly

how often are you using your nutrients and how much?

You also have a buildup of salts, how often do you foliar feed?
your plants nutrient uptake is severely hindered from to much of certin nutrients

 

[MynameStitch]

you are burning your plants, nutrient burn, how what directions does it say on the back of the box?

and when yousay organic line, how many are you using? they have lots of organic nutrients and on the back how much does it say to use>?

your plants are showing to much nitrogen and are getting burned, see the ram horn effects? they look like they are curling down...

have you also been checking the ph

i would flush your system, your plants also need transplanted

your mixture is soiless so your ph needs to be that of hydro systems, 5.5 to 6.3

 

[ft100]

What STRAIN are you growing? mr. nice super silver haze f2
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?) seed
What is the age of your plants? 1.5 weeks flowering after a 42 or so day veg
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? flower
What Technique are you using? lst
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.) organic soil- ocean forest, light warrior, perlite, dolomite, blood and bonemeal
What is the Nutrient temperature? room
What Nutrient's are you using? pureblend bloom, microblast, blackstrap molasses, earth juice later on
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using? dont check
What is the pH of the "Tank"? dont check
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment? no equip
When was your last watering? a day ago now and things look great again I just want to know what the problem was.
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional) yesterday with just plain water and some blackstrap molasses for the soil.
What size bulb are you using? 400 hps
What is the distance to the canopy? a foot
What is your RH Factor? 56%
What is the canopy temperature? 75
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range) 75-76day - 68-72 night
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) fantech fx6 inline 256 cfm
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?there is an oscillating fan in there blowing
Is your water HARD or SOFT? hard
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched cloned about 10 days ago
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When? none
Are plant's infected with pest's not that i can see

 

[MynameStitch]

are the plants just put into this soil or been inthere? how lolng have the plants been in the soil mixture?

when you feed how much do you use of each of these

pureblend bloom, microblast, blackstrap molasses, earth juice later on

and how often do you feed?

organic soil- ocean forest, light warrior, perlite, dolomite, blood and bonemeal

another problem, you riched the soil mixture up even more, FFOF is great soil, but adding bone blood meal overdoes it, that should not be added untill after 25 days of use and the plant has been in there for 25 days

have you checked your ph run off?

i would remove some of the rocks, you need to let air get down to help dry things out, is there holes in the bottom of the bag?

how big are these plants and what size bags?

you will need to get some ph test strips... but overall it looks burned, but thats not the only thing wrong, there is something else wrong....... that i cant quite put my finger on it

can you take some pictures without the hps on?

 

[kneehigh]

bump...really well done thanks

 

[Brazilian]

Hi guys it's the first time i'm posting something here, but ive been reading the forums for some time now, appreciate your job stich, thanks for the thread.

You see, i have a problem here, don´t know exactly what it is , but i'm gonna give you my setup and some photos and post some pictures of my closet grow, and if you could help me in any way i would be very thankful ok?? THX!!!



About the soil: i have a friend that lives in the countryside and he makes humus from worms, and he granted me that if I planted in pure worm castings, it would be good for my plants, but at that time i had already had some plants in it, and i noticed the soil (humus) got too compact dont know the exact word. now for my grow i've added less than 1/3 of sand like 1/3 of vermiculite and 1/3 of worm castings. But i think I had the same trouble of compacting as before, because my plants show like over watering i think, beside showing a little softening on the green and those little yellow spots? what are they?? Mites? and i had a little heating from the lamp (400 hps) what do you say by the pictures, sorry i didn´t buy my ph meter yet, im outa money and i'll only get some money on my birthday next week. Do you think i can transplant them? They will feel it a lot wont they? I thought in using some kind of material that still let the roots breathe and that let the excess of water drain well but people dont now what perlite or those cubes you call jiffy here.... the closest thing i got was vermiculite the poudery one.... well any help would be great Thanks!!!








Sorry for the crappy fotos, but im a stoned gut with a girlfriend cam hehe hers more

 

[UVrays]

Superb thread thanks for this, it might get me out of a sticky predicament.

 

[MynameStitch]

might possibly be very SLIGHLTY overfed, I would not do a thing unless it spreds. Pure wormcastings is strong I wouldnt reccomend it, it's been done but for small plants it's not reccomended, I know you are using other than pure worm castings
but with that mark issue it looks like something was splashed or water dripped on the leaves and stayed there

other than that they are fine


have you fed them yet? i would not sugguet feeding them anything for at least another week or 2 at the most


the compacted soil is not good, you also need to be checking ph with ph test strips, you collect the water from the bottom of the pots and stick the ph test strip in them

your ph should be hydro range since your using pretty much soiless medium

5.5 to 6.3

your mixture is good a little to good for the size of plants but its just barely overkill right now, my advice dont do anything right now they are fine,except for checking the ph

unless the spots spread then it would be a problem but right now they are very very healthy!


Hey UV thats what its here for man, sharing the knowledge I'm glad everyone likes the thread

 

[weed_snob]

I seem to have a nitrogen toxicity with calcium lock out (just fox farm ocean forrest). I flushed and repotted in the moonshine mix(modified: two bags of black gold, light warrior, ocean forrest, perlite, 60 % of a coco cour brick)

how quick should i see the plants regain heath? Also is there a chance of a ph problem with these nutes? I am using tap water and i am about 10 miles from the ocean

 

[MIKE JONES]

thanks! lot of good info!

 

[Guest]

Any way to get this available in a downloadable file??? PDF or something???

Would love to have this on CD in case something happens like with OG...This thread is TOO valuable to lose

NICE F'N POST

 

[darrinjefferson]

stitch- forst off, nice job with everything you are doing. youre a great help to many people.

well io got a problem. i have a plant at day 53 flower. the whole time i have grown this plant it has always retained alot more water than everyother plant i have. it also takes the longest to dry.
well after a rather heavy watering about a week ago i looked at the bottom of my plants pot and saw what looked to be mold. from what i could see it didnt look too bad, but it looked like whitish/gray mold. im assuming this is root rot? if so would it be bad for the plant to let it go a bit longer and see how it is effected?
i read that i could water it with hydrogen peroxide to kill the bacteria, if so how much should i use.

thanks for your help with this issue. i hope i can get it resolved so i can let the lady finish. i reckon shes got less than 2 weeks.

thanks for the help.
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[MynameStitch]

you mean like a fuzzy thing on the roots? Was it white? Roots have a fuzzy look to them when they are new

root rot is brown

verwatering causes root rot, but can you take a picture of this root issue you are talking about?

 

[NuggyBuds]

Darrin,
You say the mold is on the pot itself? If it's not to the actual root then I don't think it's root rot. Pics would be nice.

Hey stich... long time...

 

[darrinjefferson]

ok ok so the "mold" that i think i see is similar looking to mold to what you would see on food. maybe its just the soil or roots looking funny. since its not brown its prob not root rot then.
and i will try for some photos when the lights come on but the only places you can see it are in the tiny drainage holes in the bottom of the pot. just looks kinda grayish fuzzy, like mold i have seen before on other things.
i will get pics up asap tonight.
is it possible for the dirt to mold?

thanks alot for your help on this issue stich and nuggy
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[MynameStitch]

roots may look like it has mold from the fuzzyness look like mold does when mold starts to form, pics would help determine the answer

Roots, new ones have a whiteish grey looking fuzz that comes off them, you can see it with the naked eye, but if you use a microscope you will see its actually like smaller root hairs forming

 

[sproutco]

Caution

Caution

One of the ways you can fix a boron deficiency is to either foliar spray or water regular. Treat with one teaspoon of Boric acid (sold as eyewash) per gallon of water.

If you watered a plant at that rate, it would burn up.

 

[MynameStitch]

water a plant at what rate?

 

[20kw dreams]

HEY Stitche wazup! Long time no see, again. Hows things around these parts? What you been doin lately?

Darrin - Mold doesn't interfere with plant growth, and it is not a pathogen. Mold feeds on dead tissue and organic matter. It may however be a sign that you are keeping your soil soggy, which could lead to rot problems. Is it growing in a place where the pots are touching your trays or pans or whatever? You may just have little droplets of water getting stuck by adhesion between your pots and whatever thier sitting on, giving it a nice little breeding ground. It could in fact also be some kind of fungus, which could actually be beneficial. I have found with my soil mix, when I chuck it up with beneficial fungi, I actually get little shrooms poppin up (yes, mychorrhiza have shroom forming body's).

Either way, if your roots are white, no worries.

I didn't go back to read the boron problem, but it is so highly unlikely to get a boron deficiency it's ridiculous. If you are, just start using a kelp additive or a complet micro fert. If you are having Boron def, then you have some sort of other problems, unless you are making hydro nutes from scratch or something. If you are growing organic, then it is next to impossible to get a boron def unless you are growing broccoli, which you are probably not, or at least your not posting your boron def on ICMAG...lol....or maybe stitch is that good...