You’re trying to be clear about what you’re doing but you’re still shouting sour diesel..According to the title of this thread it’s a real eyecatcher
Thank youYour mix spectrum is genius ever looked at 14k metal halide with low iron glass?? They call it a finishing bulb but I would thunk haze and sattys would appreciate the blue/uv all cycle long. Takin it further could develop light regiments for specific phenotypes
sour diesel did indeed come from new york, but not upstate ... it came out of a house on staten island- i won't give u the address, but the house was on bidwell ave... between lathrop and leonard ave's....Sour D CAME from Upstate NY, the real sour is from @ here upstate / CNY.....
see you are using "BOG's) transplant method - just started to do it - understand how it worksEveryone has a story, here’s mine… Pulled one seed from a lb. Back @2000/01 when the Upstate NY Sour D was @ back then, this is CNY… One grower in area had it, hoarded cut under threat, they even went through their flowers making sure no seeds… but as we all know, them little beauties sneak in, I pulled one from a elbow (hard to get that much back then in fact) and I later selfed that plant @2008 or so when I later had the space & time to properly do so…
That initial selfing made 400-500 seeds or so, all the plants below are from that selfing. Some variety in these 10 or 11 plants but not too much…
This round I’m gonna hit them with a few males I selected from @Donald Mallard Sour Mango, thank you my brother from another…
I’m no “diesel” OG nor Kush expert, some have told me this looks even older like the original diesel, all I know is what I experienced - it was called Sour D and @ 1998 or so - early mid 2000’s that I recall
What they are is all diesel sour funk, have no viruses, no variegation, no HpLVd, vigorous as can be…
I’ve crossed these out to quite a few things over the years and though some were magical it lost most it’s diesel funk, let’s hope this one works, I prefer regs but won’t be holding my breath
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You say baagel & I say bagelsour diesel did indeed come from new york, but not upstate ... it came out of a house on staten island- i won't give u the address, but the house was on bidwell ave... between lathrop and leonard ave's....
What is BOG’s transplant method & whom is Bog?see you are using "BOG's) transplant method - just started to do it - understand how it works
Thanks for stopping by - no experience on my end in regards to above but you should pop them & let us knowLove this thread, so informative and brilliant photos. I live outside USA so East Coast SourD is nonexistent in my circles at least.. I only have a few JJ Topdawgs SourD beans, but haven´t had time to grow it yet.Anyone have experience on them??
Sour D CAME from Upstate NY, the real sour is from @ here upstate / CNY..... I call it exactly what I should IMO, unlike some others whom are just slinging shit; made up stories & names of cuts they have little clue about true origins, and certainly not cuts from 20-25+ years ago...
I took a seed out of a lb of Sour D from CNY in the winter of 2000 I know that for 100% fact, what would you suggest I call it then better than I've been, honestly - I'd love to hear a better idea...?
PS: what makes you the Sour D Expert btw, any pics of your "authenticated" Sour D you have in the present..?
Many thanks
u r making me hungry.....You say baagel & I say bagel
when you transplant - take whole potted plant to be transplanted - plant it leaving about an 1 above your top soil --- see his Bonanza of Green - a great publication written some time ago BOG has become famous for a few of his strains Bog Bubble,ect reason less stress and more O2 to transplanted plant + (publication is worth a read) kind of surprised you haven't heard of him . publication cost $135.00 BUT you can read it free at "Overgrow.com' Just type in Bonanza if GreenYou say baagel & I say bagel
What is BOG’s transplant method & whom is Bog?
Thanks for stopping by - no experience on my end in regards to above but you should pop them & let us know
Seriously lmao over here brother…The sour police
Haha - Id take NYC bagel over upstate every time for certain !u r making me hungry.....
Thanks for those detailswhen you transplant - take whole potted plant to be transplanted - plant it leaving about an 1 above your top soil --- see his Bonanza of Green - a great publication written some time ago BOG has become famous for a few of his strains Bog Bubble,ect reason less stress and more O2 to transplanted plant + (publication is worth a read) kind of surprised you haven't heard of him . publication cost $135.00 BUT you can read it free at "Overgrow.com' Just type in Bonanza if Green
Nice, looking forward to see some pics of it, maybe by time it’s mid flower we'll be able to attach pics again here …. I kid I kid mr modsI have a supposed sour d clone I recently acquired. Stanks like og in veg. Going to put one in flower soon.
wow man you really know your shit ! thanks for the rundown. your system is alot like hypothetical setups ive considered very helpful. have you looked at the dimlux de and controller? they dont get much press but dimlux is so innovative their leaf surface temp controll is really next level.Thank you
I've tested every type of Halide there is, open & closed rated too. Halides for Aquarium, buildings, all types of Fluros for Aquarium, bulbs for reptiles, the whole gamete. They are all coated to block most all UV, and few put off weak levels of UVA, the reptile bulbs and certain UV specific Fluros for AG put out a tiny amount of UVB, a tiny fraction of the bulbs I've linked in here & around. It's due to MFG laws here in the states and most countries for that matter, that outer envelope on the halides blocks all the good stuff, even the low Fe glass ones, little to no UVB, I've tested 6K, 10K, 14K & 20K plus probably a few others I'm forgetting.... Those USHIO midrange UVB put out 100+ UVI if within a foot or two... Nothing comes even close, afterall they are a bulb for industry, dermatology etc and thus have different regulations, some countries you can't buy them without a license....
For most plants and cuz I'm always running sativas I run bright white most the day, but they awake to the most white & blue I've got, midday for 6 hours or so is all lights on plus UVB (when using I run this day one of grow till end, seedlings perhaps benefit the most for numerous reasons) and then end of day and bedtime I put them to sleep with the HPS DE, lots of good FR & IR in them, perfect for bedtime....
I know far too much about lighting tech, indoor vs outdoor timing (big differences), phytochrome / Emerson etc, I was doing studies on this years before the Cannabis space was... did you know the moon reflects predominantly FR & IR spectrums, had to read a NASA paper from the 60's to find that one, though it was a hypothesis I had.... we all know what FR & IR does, speeds up a plants timing....
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RE The project of this thread.....
I pulled 10K+ of seeds from the 10 F and 1 Male -
I also made a bucket of two favorite females and same 1 male, also thousands of seeds in there
Peace y'all & thanks for watching along
Thank you & a lot above to comment on; first I don’t know bonks but do Sammy; he’s a great grower & fella, master of his domain. I too like hanging up bright lights high & letting plants grow into them, it’s certainly the easiest way to do things too which is a huge added benefit & something I focus on here, simplicity. Proper Air flow is king too, Sammy knows thatwow man you really know your shit ! thanks for the rundown. your system is alot like hypothetical setups ive considered very helpful. have you looked at the dimlux de and controller? they dont get much press but dimlux is so innovative their leaf surface temp controll is really next level.
approaching vpd from a dimmer base mechanism instead of only relying on ac/humdifier. they have an infrared thermometer that reads cannopy leaf surface temp. then the hps themselves are actively dimmed if the leaf surface gets too high. even just having the leaf surface temp measured and tracked is a gamechanger. especially with haze/sativas when they have very strict climate standards.
the increase of leaf surface temp, low humidity and those stomatas closing up accounts for a large chunk of the hermies/shooters/reveg first time haze growers run into. its tough because sometimes a plant will want very intense light but also need high humidity to shield leaf surface from cookin up resulting in a big nitrogen spike as well.
reading thru all yo sammy and bonks work on the dutch forums they start the 600 hps nearly 3 feet from the canopy to begin with. their mastery of haze procedure combined with ur light knowledge can make big strides for homegrowers. other features with the dimlux include the high voltage 277/400 ballast what do you think of those? it also offers a nanotube model for active cooling of the bulb/fixture. air is pushed into ducting that enters the fixture goes all the way around and keeps pushing thru to exaust. i guess the big advantage is air cooling while maintaining a sealed enviorment but also increases the capability of lights i believe. View attachment 18836708 View attachment 18836709
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