soil remineralization: process and discussion

[GetUpStandUp]

Sorry bro, here is a ratio of rock dust mix that is being tested to a hi brix grow of og strain, he mixes botton half of this mix to his soil, then the rest just soil, then 4 week intervals he top dresse half cup of said mix, he uses the yucca, and other hi grade industial folials too, he is off the charts when it comes to doing the brix method, but again please understand all the brix talk is still in development by all us growers to tweek out our own ways.
Who knows with your years of expertise you may have a better hold than me with this, I am learnig because I had problems taking it all in at first, but yes There is a method behind the madness, and very gret result, compared to just going organic, its like throwing a turbo charger on your grow, seriously! Here is his mix - 6 parts limestone/5 parts Soft Rock Phosphate/3 parts gypsum.
.....just make sure it's high calcium lime, CaCO3.....more than 90% yes the limestone is calcium so 3 parts not 4 parts of added rock.

 

[heady blunts]

GUSU, I'm interested in what you're saying, and your writing is just fine. it's just an intimidating combo --- multiple consecutive posts each with massive book sized entries with no breaks.

just hit return twice after every sentence or two to add some line breaks. it will make your posts a lot more accessible.

also, pictures say a thousand words as the saying goes.

 

[SeaMaiden]

LMAO! I just suggested the same thing in another thread.

 

[GetUpStandUp]

Yes thanks Ive been getting the nudge to catch up so to speak, I am a nob to basically computer, threads, and writing so thanks. I have no camera, or any clue how to load the computer, so I will eventually get there, and I will copy sites I research so ppl can reference what my pie hole says!

 

[Microbeman]

For my humus I use just general organics brand ancient forest, good stuff.

Just so you know....this is not humus....not at all

T&J enterprises know very very very little about soil microbes....just look at their videos

Labs are not researching cannabinoids and cancer because of Rick Simpson

I think you should research first, then teach??

 

[GetUpStandUp]

Yes thanks Ive been getting the nudge to catch up so to speak, I am a nob to basically computer, threads, and writing so thanks. I have no camera, or any clue how to load the computer, so I will eventually get there, and I will copy sites I research so ppl can reference what my pie hole says!

Oh, and heady, its the oposite, I am curious how to get a grow as harmonic as you have, I deal with a small cab, and have fits learning, all the donts, just gotten on track with going organic, and emplimenting this hi brix method, I am new to it still, and since its been pretty peaceful, I think I had a hard time at the switch from synthetic to organic from not allowing my soil to establish(cook), and I was using to small of cups, having heat, and dryin issues with soil.

I started using mulch for top dress, and has worked wonders, but pro I am not, just very interested in hi brix as it seems the most natural way to get the most out of organics, and seeing the results in just fruits, make a mj grower say hummm... rock dust???? So soon I will know, I have few going couple of weeks now, and they started off pretty bad.

 

[GetUpStandUp]

Not teaching, informing, and rick has done more than anyone to get anything, or anyone on board to take cannabis healing properties seriously, and yes labs are testing in just about any state trying for legal meds, will they say, or does it matter who is getting things started, I seriously would study anything you throw my way, like I said I respond well, and listen even better, but name some people to jump on board with, cuz I am on board with rick, and the movement to inform, not rewrite how you think, or attack your foundation of research.
I will not get in a back and forth, all I ask is teach me....

Far as the brand not being humus, well I at times spell wrong, and read things and miss something, but going to my bag to re read it well, it says humus on the bag, but like I said, teach me, whats humus if every brand that says it is in fact not?

 

[GetUpStandUp]

Aother thing, I had to sit back, kinda threw me back at how you responded, as I never said any one to believe me, I never said these fomulas, theories were fact, or the only way, I am say I am researching, and learning, so when a man tells me in a way you made it seem, well I can say what a dick, but working on my anger in the past got me to step back, and think, this is what I came up with-

Have you done anything in a grow that I am speaking of? If so what are your results, dont keep em, then critisize cuz I cant come up with the answer as you have.

How can you teach by unsulting?? As to me all the work and studing I have done, and trust me I am a dumb football player type in the past to even be speaking to your type would never happen, matter of fact, I love cage fighting, being sore, and blood, and shite, normally in person people who take away all my intelligence, and leave with my muscle learn how it feels to made a bit&@ in public in front of everyone because I got him in a reverse wrist lock, this was only because I am good at that, this stuff here bro is growth for, me, actually theraputic, last place I would think to be called stupid, oh or in your words needing to go back and learn.

Well no need, because you have said it wrong, give me new material to get the TRUE FACTS

 

[GetUpStandUp]

Ok, this my be benieth you, or equivalant to your understanding of "research" this is not a lab test, by so and so, no your completely right! I get you to a degree, the part I dont get I why do you think every single person reading will be at your level of understanding of the lab level of test. I said this man Rick is publically so documenting with news media, vidoes, testimonials, marches, and campaining in the wings, without the big millions, billions of dallors, fox news coverage, like our current politians have.

But look what I mean for all of us un-informed, or intelligent ppl who are like me, that can not understand this man our controlled test himself, you guys look at the link and judge for yourself, and yes it can be doctored footage, and yes it could be fake, or a hoax, but who said anything bout that, all I said was research it, and maybe when tons of us citizens wake up, and force our government to legalize medical mj for good to see if this, and other videos, and testimonials are actually true!?
Because I havent taken any pharma drugs, because if you do your trying to get rid of a headach, and you take it, your headach may go away, but now you are having diarrea out your belly button because th side affects they warnd you about. But do I believe em when they warn me, and when I hear recalls, and ppl who are on pharma drugs tell me horror stories of side affects they have. yes!

So when someone comes out, and says hey did you know this oil I made from weed plants cured my cancer, and his diabeties, and her skin problems, and on, and on hell why not say hey pot growers, have you ever herad of this in some thread?

http://breedheenorilleykeefer.com/2011/12/10/phoenix-tears-healing-a-diabetic-ulcer/

Here it is, and sorry for rambling, just irks to be told something that has nothing to do with what I said, and yes I believe it heals cancer, and all forms of symptoms without FDA approval, and some lab test, because we all know how the damn plant got criminalized in the first place, and what do you know same ppl make billions, kill billions in its place with their form of medicine, oh and these same ppl own, and pay off the same labs your speaking of to get their drug put on the market, but then again I may have to go research that some more too????

 

[jaykush]

this has nothing to do with soil remineralization, please get on topic.

 

[Microbeman]

GSU, I thought I was careful not to be insulting. It seemed like you were indeed telling people how it has to be;

Sorry for you organic growers out there who cant see this


Thru phoenix tears mj oils have already stomped out all pharma pills,

you must have all levels of rocks in correct harmony as well

and is the only way this can work, and you must have all levels of rocks in correct harmony as well,

mixing humus into teas is a must for continue of hurd speed

Humus is something which is similar to compost only absolutely degraded to the point where even under the microscope no original plant material is reckognizable. If you look at video footage I shot (on my webpage) I showed that the supposed 'humus' being sold is not very different than sphagnum peat moss....except for the outlandish price. In actuallity, vermicompost is much closer to humus than any stuff in bags.

The research done on cannabinoids and cancer was and is mostly taking place in Spain and Italy and has been before anyone heard of Rick Simpson. I did research this a bit and I did read the testamonies, but there were only maybe two which seemed somewhat legitimate.

I am all for supporting this work, but don't feel that a potentially ego driven campaign is the way to go about promoting it.

There are many people who have cancer go into remission for various reasons. My father was cured by electro-magnetism.

As I pointed out, noscapine is likely a much more powerful and more easily accessed cure for cancer than cannabis, however most potheads have a stigma about poppies, morphine, heroin.

 

[Microbeman]

Sorry Jay; my fault

 

[GetUpStandUp]

Now thats what I needed a learning curve, added to the denoucing of what I was talking about, no doubt, you make sense with the humus, again going up another level, likr hi brix, but now for humus, thank you for this enlightenment. Again sorry if I sound like a know it, all or if It appears like its my way, its how I type, no skills, and most of the info, like when I say and only this way will it work, thats just repeating what I read but in my words in favor not to be to long on a response.

For the research being done, and the Rick simpson thing, I am only concerned in getting ppl on board to get behind something just as good, if not better than pharma drugs, its the way someone is atacked when coming out about info, why not just let him fail if indeed the cure is not there, so the point is if Rick fails, then who ever reps noscipine will face the same ridicule, as we are not having this conversation about tabacco, beer, or pornography, but all those are easily accepted, and obtained legally, but either bro you gave me info that will be researched and pushed, here in america, as spain, and anywhere other than the U.S is not a bigger trend setter than U.S of A. But its all good to look at this with growing still, never will I say I am done doing that.

 

[GetUpStandUp]

Wow, so what made you test the peat, and humus? This is interesting indeed, as we fall for consumer tricks daily fattening someone elses pocket, and still you never get what you pay for, just wow manipulation all the way down to dirt. So my big question then, as learning your research, is vermicompost basically worm castings that are not fulling broken compost? Or is it worm castings with the fancy name?

See, lucky The brand Just Right xtra has peat in it, and lucky I added more castings, so I was left with what do I add now just more poo, and peat to abtain a good humus sorce? An update to my week long with my mix before knowing about this humus, last nite I peaked at some root growth since adding myco, and omg yes my new mix is doing way better, way better, so I am really hoping this humus thing is as easy as just adding more peat?

Btw, since you are in canada, and you feel very stongly about not seeing the phoenix tears thing as something to really jump on, I can only ask what are the things you are concerned with dealing with this partiular movement? As being from a different country we are seperated by relying on middleman manipulated fact at times,(ie media) so, I really need to know, want to know, as my whole reason for growing is 100% for this oil, to see for myself, as I got some sick love ones relying on pharma, and it kills bro it really does.

Ive done everything like research The gall bladder liver cleanse, which anyone having your doctor telling you to go under the knife to remove your gall bladder, tell him to wait a week, so you can try this cleanse and keep your gall bladder, and save cash, it really works, my wife was too late tho, she regrets not being able to have tried it. But the Alkalinity in our bodies, and raising our bodies out of an acidic enviroment, man I looked.

SoIt just is very crazy the resistance towards anyone, about anything is taking as guilty before proven innocent, I have yet to buy anything from rick, and that in itself is getting my attention, as who does this, unless he is an attention whore? lol I just ride behind logic, and the logic that this plant which very corrupt ppl made illegal, and profeted off of, should not be allowed to withold the ability to test, because if it is true this is a cure if something like remineralized soils, and hi brix methods brings more healing properties out in the oils, or just some guys manipulation or a basic thing to possibly get a better range of power from the plant?

I dont know, too me worth the try, I love the plant, it so many more uses than that, at every front of its abilities tho I do believe their should sit a rick simpson to argue its particular properties! Thanks again for the info, and nice that you made it very understanding breaking down to the micro-est of scales!

 

[mexcurandero420]

Is it true that lava dust gives better result than basalt dust in absorption of the nutrients???

Keep on growing

 

[ClackamasCootz]

Is it true that lava dust gives better result than basalt dust in absorption of the nutrients???

Keep on growing

Basalt is a volcanic rock dust - not sure what context you're referring to.

 

[mexcurandero420]

Basalt is a volcanic rock dust - not sure what context you're referring to.

I know, but read somewhere that the minerals / trace elements in lava dust are faster absorbed than from basalt dust.

Keep on growing

 

[ClackamasCootz]

mexcurandero420

I had this mix bagged and is being sold through an organic co-op here:

200 lbs. Canadian Glacial Rock Dust (Gaia Green brand)
50 lbs. Bentonite
50 lbs. Basalt
50 lbs. Oyster Shell Powder/Flour (pure Calcium Carbonate)

Another 700 lbs. will be batched this week to resupply the store

CC

 

[ClackamasCootz]

I know, but read somewhere that the minerals / trace elements in lava dust are faster absorbed than from basalt dust.

Keep on growing

Huh? You know that Basalt is a volcanic rock dust but you read that 'lava dust' is absorbed faster?

Huh?? Redux.....

I'm not even going to touch the absorbed - I believe that you meant to type adsorbed, right??

 

[idiit]

John Evans, who's now based in the Philippines, has been doing extensive work with teas on crops with fantastic results. He does with trace minerals/element supplementation, but not from rock dusts if I remember correctly, and is a HUGE fan of archae particularly the stuff from Biozome especially in regards to mineralization/processing.

^https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=4042756&highlight=archaea#post4042756

my understanding of soil remineralization is still that the indigenous micro-organisms have extremely low efficacy when it comes to making mineral supplements available to the plants for nutrient uptake. i did a thread search on this thread for archaea and still not a lot of posts per how one would get the mineral supplements fixed so that the plants can actually utilize them.

to me the key is testing for trace minerals in the final product. it appears that today's organic movement is not testing to the degree they should for the presence of trace minerals in the final product. i suspect one reason may very well be that unless the grower is using a good micro-herd the trace minerals are not getting to the plants system.

per my research an archaea dominated micro-herd is the absolute best at this task but the very critical facet of what type of mico-organisms are best used to facilitate this process is woefully neglected.

this would be the appropriate thread to discuss the efficacy of different micro-organisms in making the trace minerals available to the plants instead of just assuming that after we add the supplement our job is over.